Grampybone bone with all the spirits. He know everything. He just wishes not to tell.

It's a melee special attack, a new feature that melee weapons are getting. They still can't attack individual parts in regular vats, the golfclub's special just happens to be a shot to nuts.

The OXM preview is pretty damn horrible, with it calling Fallout 3 "the original" and "the first game", as if FO1 and 2 never existed, saying that "Fallout fans" are worried about Obsidian making it (as if Fallout 3 fans were the only Fallout fans around), and reassuring people that fortunately there won't be any connections to the old PC Fallouts (even though the NCR, Nightkin etc. appear).

The PC Gamer and PSM3 previews were much better written.

Yep I see that now as well, It talked about it later on in the second magazine article I was reading. Guess I need to stop getting ahead of myself. But atleast its a fun sounding special melee attack. I wonder if the PC will yell FORE before he swings. In any case I wonder what the other melee special attacks are going to be.



Desert, the articles are not the best but I did see reference to FO1 and FO2 in one of the magazine articles I read. You can see them on nma-fallout, there under the news photo section. I think it was the PS3 magazine article that referenced FO1 and FO2 but I might be mistaken.

You know, the more I hear about the grenade machinegun, the more I think it was inspired by the xm307/312 weapon system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM307

good spot, im just a bit worried about the "Ownage" factor of the gun, if it's a grenade MG wont it be easy to spam enemies? the only way I can see them offestting this fact is to make it have a low ammo cpacity

That and a low ammo supply.

I've gotten Vault Chaplain littarelly every play through, and i never choose alot of the same.

Especially the bolded part!!

You try to fire that indoors and not get fried. It's only outdoors me thinks

Well, think about it. Would most 360(all most people) users like it if the game was like the originals?

Not just 360 users but the majority of people wouldn't like it.

True, true. I wouldn't.

I would! Only cause I know what most of us (360 users) have missed...

They might not like it if it were like the originals, doesn't mean they shouldn't acknolwedge the obvious references to FO1, 2 and Van Buren. But it's clear that the previewer not only didn't play the originals (and I don't mean "the original" in his sense), but also didn't even bother reading about them.

And FNV might be more like Fallout 3 in terms of perspective and combat style, but it is clearly more like the originals in terms of story structure, quests, dialogues, faction system etc. Their statement that there won't be any connection to Fallout and 2 is obviously clueless to anyone who bothered to visit the wiki.

Neither would I, I only really liked the creativity (story and stuff) of the originals, the gameplay and everything they can keep.

The interesting thing about that weapon system is its weight and low recoil. It's fifty pounds dead for the gun, the mount, and the laser guided fire controller (which automaticly compensates for range, incline, windage, and primes the grenade to airburst right next to it's target.). The Mk 19 it replaces uses a crude graduated sight, the gun weights 75 pounds by itself, and even with multiple sand bags bracing its tripod, it still bucks like a mechanical bull when fired. The xm307 is a cakewalk by comparison.

Funny, this is exactly how I feel about FNV, which I'll try to enjoy despite the gameplay style I dislike.

You prefer the original gameplay? You have to be crazy man, I respect your opinion and all but seriously...FO 3 and FNV gameplay and everything is seriously superior. (Well not everything, but mostly everything.)

It might be superior to you and many others, but not to everyone, and it's no reason to call anyone crazy. I've always preferred more tactical, turn-based combat to real-time clickfests in my RPGs, and there are many people who feel the same. Insulting others as "crazy" just because they have different gaming preferences is pretty damn immature.

And before you start claiming that turn-based is obsolete, no one buys turn-based games, etc. just look at the sales of the latest Final Fantasy. And while Dragon Age is not turn-based, its pause system with the ability to switch to isometric view makes it much better to my tastes than Fallout 3.

True words. You should refer these advises IT'S GARY.

It's not superior, it's different. It's apples to orangutans. Fallouts 1-2 were turn based with room for improvement (so sayeth xcom and jagged alliance). Fallout 3 is an fps with room for improvement (so sayeth pretty much every single other fps currently on the market).

Again, words of truth. I was just about to post something similiar with less polite words.

On the whole matter about what Obsidian is and isn't really changing from Fallout 3, I'm actually pretty happy about it. From what I'm hearing, at least. I'm glad the gameplay isn't changing much. I like how it's not turn based, or 2D/an isometric view. It feels less separated from reality than when it's 2D and such. At the same time, I'm also glad that Obsidian has changed the way they do the story, dialogue, etc.-from what I'm being told anyways. I never played the older Fallouts, so I'm sort of 'taking a leap of faith,' on the subject. I guess.

Of course, there's more to gameplay than if it's 2D or 3D/turn-based or real-time, but nonetheless.

Still, it has thus far sounded as if they're taking the best from the previous games. If that's true, the next game should be great.

Guys, please keep the bashing of previous game likes/dislikes to a minimum here and focus on the information that was revealed


Milt