PCPS3 Release Date Thread part 18 : V - Skyrim

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:16 am

Yes, of course I realize there is a major difference between my little remodeling business and the goliath that is Bethesda. And I understand that certain people may not be allowed to say more than they have at this point. BUT, the buck stops somewhere and the person making the final decision on whether to make a simple announcement is wrong not to do so in my opinion. I really don't think people would care as much or even be surprised if the date is pushed back. It's just the way it is currently being handled that really irritates me.

Oh right, gotcha, I misunderstood you in that case, sorry.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:55 pm

Exclusive: 1.not admitting of something else 2.limited to the object or objects designated 3.shutting out all others from a part or share

Take note of the first definition, there is your answer to why Beth did not mention a pc/ps3 release when they announced the 360 one.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:12 am

Peter Hines reveal that Soon? will announce that there will be more information on dawnguard Soon?, which will be available Soon? on PS and PC.

He also confirmed that it will be more clear in the answers Soon? . That said, he greets us and says "see you Soon? ! "

Soon? is a trademark of Bethesda Softworks. All Rights reserved.

Is Soon? anything like two months? Or is it three, seems like I've been waiting for Soon? for a long http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1308292-game-updates/page__view__findpost__p__20823593.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:50 am

Is Soon? anything like two months? Or is it three, seems like I've been waiting for Soon? for a long http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1308292-game-updates/page__view__findpost__p__20823593.

Noo kidding

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:23 pm

Uhggh still no info on this? I hope they give us something by tommorow! reading through all of this is getting rather tedious!

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:29 am

Is Soon? anything like two months? Or is it three, seems like I've been waiting for Soon? for a long http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1308292-game-updates/page__view__findpost__p__20823593.

So, are we running on Soon? in Valve Time or human time? Because I don't want to play Dawnguard when I'm a 50 year old man stroking my beard while meditating on a mountain.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:22 am

Uhggh still no info on this? I hope they give us something by tommorow! reading through all of this is getting rather tedious!

I guess your feeling was wrong so far. This is why you should be careful in what you say.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:51 am

So, are we running on Soon? in Valve Time or human time? Because I don't want to play Dawnguard when I'm a 50 year old man stroking my beard while meditating on a mountain.

But that is the BEST way to play dawnguard! :biggrin:

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:32 am

I just can't wait to see the flaming and changes to everyone's arguments should release be delayed for a while

First off - we don't mind waiting - just want some communication

If delayed

Next argument and complaint - omg!! What are they doing? They had 30 days! Bethesda told us thirty days and now we have to wait 60!!!! Omg - they svck and I am gonna rant for 25 more days.
- they lost a customer
**sarcasm***

The reality sets in 'I'm on a pc and Bethesda does not love me the most' - omg!!! - my life is ending!!! Ugghhhhhh!!!
***more sarcasm***

Gonna be crazy on the boards then!

Better get a 360 before next dlc

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:39 am

I just can't wait to see the flaming and changes to everyone's arguments should release be delayed for a while

First off - we don't mind waiting - just want some communication

If delayed

Next argument and complaint - omg!! What are they doing? They had 30 days! Bethesda told us thirty days and now we have to wait 60!!!! Omg - they svck and I am gonna rant for 25 more days.
- they lost a customer
**sarcasm***

The reality sets in 'I'm on a pc and Bethesda does not love me the most' - omg!!! - my life is ending!!! Ugghhhhhh!!!
***more sarcasm***

Gonna be crazy on the boards then!

Better get a 360 before next dlc

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:10 am

Ok now this i DON'T understand, they don't have the time to release dawnguard for ps3 and pc BUT they do have time for this: ????????????

https://twitter.com/Bethblog
UK residents have days left to enter our Skyrim 360 contest. Rules here http://t.co/rm7LT1d2
??????

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:30 am

I wonder if in the end this exclusivity deal with Microsoft will have been worth it to Bethesda, with all the customer backlash and all. I'm sure poeple who say they won't, will still buy Dawnguard when it releases.

The whole thing just saddens me though. The Elder Scrolls series WAS a PC franchise, but now they cater to M$ Xbox. I really don't understand why M$ would want Bethesda to keep the DLC away from PC players. I can kind of understand PS3 because it's in direct competition with Xbox, but PC/Stream users are really in another category than consoles.

I just hope Bethesda will not do this with future games. It really does create unhappy customers for no real reason.

Microsoft is trying to force people to bye x-box... by saying if you want this content you have toget an xbox... i will stop supporting any company that caters to that bs. I do not like the xbox. i had one for about 3 months before i traded it in for ps3 games. i will keep my ps3 and keep supporting sony.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:37 am

Better get a 360 before next dlc

Sir, Mr. salesperson, what is a 360? Please do tell us all about it...
Promise not to tell you were to shove it up...

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:30 am

I show my displeasure with gaming developers/publishers when I buy used games. My understanding is they don't get a cent from the sale?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:02 am

What is the "1.7 update" was the news we should have received? And there is nothing else to be told?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:06 am

I show my displeasure with gaming developers/publishers when I buy used games. My understanding is they don't get a cent from the sale?

Yes, you are correct. But in some jurisdictions, doing so is illegal.
The most permissive is the EU:
"An author of software cannot oppose the resale of his 'used' licenses allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet. The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a license is exhausted on its first sale. This was decided by the Court of Justice of the European Union in a case of Used Soft GmbH v. Oracle International Corp.."
http://www.cio.com/article/709990/EU_Court_Rules_Resale_of_Used_Software_Licenses_is_Legal_Even_Online

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:18 am

After reading things over and listening to the various Beth interviews, I more or less understood:

Xbox's 30 days exclusive period did not start until all localized versions were released: at that point Dawnguard is officially the finished product Microsoft signed up for. That way the country that gets their localized version last can also say they played it 30 days exclusive.
Only then, after 30 days, the distribution of Dawnguard is in Beth's hands. That is when they can start porting and adjust the game for PC and for PS3. It may take some work as it must be tested to be reasonably foolproof with mods.
Beth hasn't given an estimated date because either the 30 days aren't officially up (see above reason about localized versions), or they aren't sure yet on how much work Dawnguard's port to PC and PS3 will be and don't want to move a release date.

Again, that's how I understood the whole picture myself. I may be way off, but it's often a case of the product not being considered finished and exclusive until the whole world can access it. Those 'suits' high up always are tricky like that.

That could mean fall 2012... but again, that's just how I see it right now after some loose research.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:55 pm

Microsoft is trying to force people to bye x-box... by saying if you want this content you have toget an xbox... i will stop supporting any company that caters to that bs. I do not like the xbox. i had one for about 3 months before i traded it in for ps3 games. i will keep my ps3 and keep supporting sony.

wont work for me i already have a xbox, but i buyed skyrim for my PS3 and im not also buying it for my XBOX.
so thats just waisted effort on microsofts part, and verry inoing for PC/PS3 users

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:33 am

Maybe Microsoft should ban games on Windows so more people will buy the xbox 360.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:24 pm

Maybe Microsoft should ban games on Windows so more people will buy the xbox 360.

Micro$oft hired Beth to do the dirty work for them. MicroSoft smart, Beth not so much...

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:44 am

wont work for me i already have a xbox but i buyed skyrim for my PS3 and im not also buying it for my XBOX and even i i didnt have a xbox i sill woudnt buy it for the xbox because then i would also have to buy a xbox so thats just waisted effort on microsofts part, and verry inoing for PC/PS3 users

who the hell can read this ?

To the point,I will forgive Beth if they release Fallout 4 next year.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:47 am

After reading things over and listening to the various Beth interviews, I more or less understood:

Xbox's 30 days exclusive period did not start until all localized versions were released: at that point Dawnguard is officially the finished product Microsoft signed up for. That way the country that gets their localized version last can also say they played it 30 days exclusive.
Only then, after 30 days, the distribution of Dawnguard is in Beth's hands. That is when they can start porting and adjust the game for PC and for PS3. It may take some work as it must be tested to be reasonably foolproof with mods.
Beth hasn't given an estimated date because either the 30 days aren't officially up (see above reason about localized versions), or they aren't sure yet on how much work Dawnguard's port to PC and PS3 will be and don't want to move a release date.

Again, that's how I understood the whole picture myself. I may be way off, but it's often a case of the product not being considered finished and exclusive until the whole world can access it. Those 'suits' high up always are tricky like that.

That could mean fall 2012... but again, that's just how I see it right now after some loose research.

isnt microsoft the one who dicides where it is released and when in that case microsoft can keep DG completly exclusive for a long time they just have to wait with releasing it in one country that doesnt sell a lot of DLC anyway.
and knowing microsoft they would do that so i hope one of us is wrong.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:46 am

isnt microsoft the one who dicides where it is released and when in that case microsoft can keep DG completly exclusive for a long time they just have to wait with releasing it in one country that doesnt sell a lot of DLC anyway.
and knowing microsoft they would do that so i hope one of us is wrong.

The version for major European nations (France, etc) -> released 10 day later.
The version for major Asian countries (Japan, etc) -> release still pending...
The exclusive 30 days did not even started yet.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:28 pm

The version for major European nations (France, etc) -> released 10 day later.
The version for major Asian countries (Japan, etc) -> release still pending...
The exclusive 30 days did not even started yet.

exactly what i mean microsoft is stalling and trying to keep DG as xbox exclusive longer.
no miracle they release the Asia version last. Xbox its not exactly populair it those countries.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:48 am

The version for major European nations (France, etc) -> released 10 day later.
The version for major Asian countries (Japan, etc) -> release still pending...
The exclusive 30 days did not even started yet.

Right and what ist of South Africa and Lybia? Or Guinea-Bissau?