Please stop bashing BethesdaSkyrim.

Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:24 pm

ever play two worlds....nough said

Ever play Big Rigs?

So... we've just put the PS3 version of Skyrim on the same level as Two Worlds and Big Rigs.

How the hell did it get Game of the Year?
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:50 pm

so...just one?

come on you dont need a list do you
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:08 pm

All games have bugs nobody can say they dont quit [censored]n'
LoL yeah ok all games have bugs at least those games don't constantly freeze or drop to 0 fps like the PS3 version does. I can deal with broken quest's and other stupid issues that they can fix later but the save file size/lag problem has been around since FO3 and hasn't really been fixed.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:21 pm

come on you dont need a list do you

If you could name like 5 it would put it to rest. Naming just one, kinda proves the point lol.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:05 pm

come on you dont need a list do you

Well, there is a difference between "bad" games and games that are simply "buggy."

"By Design" and "oh [censored] we [censored] up the code" are two different things.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:28 am

LoL yeah ok all games have bugs at least those games don't constantly freeze or drop to 0 fps like the PS3 version does. I can deal with broken quest's and other stupid issues that they can fix later but the save file size/lag problem has been around since FO3 and hasn't really been fixed.

maybe thats a sony problem pc and xbox dont complain about it like the ps3
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:24 am

maybe thats a sony problem pc and xbox dont complain about it like the ps3
Right that's why every game I have on the PS3 works fine except the Bethesda games. Go back under your bridge.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:44 pm

maybe thats a sony problem pc and xbox dont complain about it like the ps3

To be quite honest... things like the save file size issue should have never allowed the game to go gold.

There is no excuse for a retail title to be released with an issue like that if it occurs in more than a 10% amount of time.

My opinion though, I'm kind of strict about bugs.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:19 pm

maybe thats a sony problem pc and xbox dont complain about it like the ps3

So, if I buy an electronic device In the US and when I open it at hope I see that it was made for a European electric outlet. When I start to complain the salesman tells me that it is clearly my houses fault for not having a European electric outlet.

Edit: It is not like the play station specs were a mystery to them. They decided to ignore its limitations; the blame is with them not sonny.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:31 am

So, if I buy an electronic device In the US and when I open it at hope I see that it was made for a European electric outlet. When I start to complain the salesman tells me that it is clearly my houses fault for not having a European electric outlet.

That salesman would have balls made out of solid granite.

Also, that would be hysterical.

Edit: No real point here, just: Like the example.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:25 pm

If you could name like 5 it would put it to rest. Naming just one, kinda proves the point lol.
Never Dead, Amy, Alpha Protocol, Zack Zero, way of the samurai 3, Enchanted arms, two worlds, Two world II, Dark kingdom
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:34 pm

So, if I buy an electronic device In the US and when I open it at hope I see that it was made for a European electric outlet. When I start to complain the salesman tells me that it is clearly my houses fault for not having a European electric outlet.

Edit: It is not like the play station specs were a mystery to them. They decided to ignore its limitations; the blame is with them not sonny.

What every I have Ps3, PC and 360 and i bought it for 360 and i haven't had any problems with it other then minor stuff thats in every game.
Tell me a game that has no Bugs and ill show you a guy whos full of CRAP!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:49 pm

So, if I buy an electronic device In the US and when I open it at hope I see that it was made for a European electric outlet. When I start to complain the salesman tells me that it is clearly my houses fault for not having a European electric outlet.

Edit: It is not like the play station specs were a mystery to them. They decided to ignore its limitations; the blame is with them not sonny.
They didn't just ignore its limitations, they ignored it entirely... even its strengths. The PS3's CPU is undoubtedly superior to that of the 360's. It's more partitioned and as such requires its own rendering path (as differing platforms often do... and that's not a fault of Sony if the PS3 isn't a 360 in a plastic casing, that would just be stupid and illegal on Sony's part), but with a game as CPU-intensive as Skyrim, the platform with a more powerful CPU with more potential for CPU-oriented tasks should have been utilized and would have produced pretty damn good results. The problem is they didn't make very extensive use of it... much like they seem to have left multicore optimization for the PC crowd a bit on the underdeveloped side. Bethesda made a crappy port all-around... and people are defending it? That's really sad and quite frankly, insulting. 360 players paid $60 for a game designed for the 360 while PS3 players paid the same $60... for a game designed for the 360.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:22 pm

I absolutely understand what you are saying OP. I have posted threads about this myself. There is too much overt negativism going on, or rather, too much frustration that is taken to the extreme of “bashing,” name calling, accusations, and outright spiteful vindictiveness.

However, there is also something to be said for constructive criticism. Also, posting say that you have experienced certain bugs or crashes after a certain patch in a thread specifically for that purpose is not exactly “spirit crushing negativism.”

I understand the notion “if you have nothing good to say don’t say anything at all,” but if you were to do a serious search of the forums you would see that I am positive more often than negative, and the negative is never meant as Bethesda bashing. I think they’re the greatest video game company on Earth!

I also think there is more going on culturally here than anyone is prepared to point out. Video gaming has become something of a cultural phenomenon, and a way of life has sprung up of our technology. A new form of perpetual revisionism and minimalist self-improvement could be a profound adaptation to our modern environment.

But not everyone gets to experience that. Many have that way of life ripped from them by forced labor and contextual debt slavery. Still others can’t afford to participate at all. Those who are fortunate enough face all the same prejudice and cannibalism from their peers and communities as outcasts and unique minds have always faced through out our history, with varying degrees up to and including physical violence and the theft/destruction of their property./

Many can’t afford to defend themselves or do anything about it. They rely on games like this as a sign of progress, or an escape, of hope that people will eventually change and embrace an era of technological abundance that would allow them to simply be what they are, to have shelter, basic needs, and be left alone, for the most part, to live their live and produce their art.

All the little hang-ups along the way come to the surface as frustration seemingly disproportional to the context but it is because of this that so much else is perceived to be at stake. It is the constant reminder, much like circumcision, of all that is lost or suffered seemingly without end.

People who are concerned about our future, who care about this world and the people in it, and who are affected by all the anger, the hatred, violence, jealousy, are simply termed “emo” so they’re easier to marginalize by a defeated populace who no longer has any faith in themselves, so they attempt to drag other’s down with them.

The misery is toxic, and contagious, and until a real cure emerges, it will continue to infect everything it touches. Good people can only suffer so much futility before they have no choice but to reach out for some connection, to vent their frustrations to stay sane.

One can only hope a company like Bethesda realizes this and doesn’t take it too seriously. Or do, but not in a way they take offense.

I’ve heard it argued that it has never been this good, that it was worse in the past and it is always better than somewhere else. People say things like that, then nothing ever changes. But I would argue that having lived to KNOW a change, a solution, then have that denied, is WORSE than never having known at all.

Greed is suffocating our culture to death, no matter what country you hail from. A little misplaced negativism is hardly the greatest threat we face. Take up the armor of UNDERSTANDING and be aware of where it comes from!

Then, you are in a better position to help, or show compassion. At least, by not having to write off the suffering in order to survive yourselves!

That never lasts.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:47 pm

Make that 4 of us. I created Pong and invented the semicolon.

Mine was Monopoly and snakes and ladders.... no big deal.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:38 am

@OP: I think you're missing a lot of the complaints and criticisms, which are totally valid. Here's a few:
  • The PS3 version became unplayable after the file size hit a certain limit (generally when your character hit level 40ish). UNPLAYABLE. Not a minor bug or glitch, but a completely broken product.
  • Todd promised a lot of things that he didn't really deliver. Radiant lolAI?
  • Dialogue "choices." I mean, really? Half the dialogue I have ONE option to select. What's the point?
  • Dungeon "puzzles." What was the point? Rotate these stones. Seriously, rotate them some more. Now, rotate that one. Cool.
  • Becoming a guild master, a most honorable hero, the most horrible villain in Skyrim-- no NPC's recognize who or what you are in any way.
  • The towns are pitifully small and horribly underpopulated, even compared to Morrowind.
These are but a few. Is this game fun? Sure! Is this game Elder Scrolls quality? Maybe. Could this have gone down as one of the best games in history had they not stuck to that ridiculous 11/11/11 deadline and fixed some of the above issues? Absolutely.

This and more the game is great however once you start to see the shallow side of the game it becomes harder to ignore. However that is no matter where this game lacks another will fill in that gap for me which is good as variety is a spice of life.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:19 pm

Mine was Monopoly and snakes and ladders.... no big deal.

I invented fire. You worthless schmucks. :P
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:58 pm

That's cute. Unfortunately, inverting my statement won't generate an equally accurate one. People love to kiss up? Surely the ratio of complaining threads to appraising threads refutes that.

And of course, you and other people are too busy enjoying them to bother visiting the forums. Why is it hard to believe that people truly 'love' this game? It won several GOTY awards, recieved great reviews, even in Japan, and shipped over 10 million copies, which is a number that is much larger than the amount of users on these forums. Most people who bought the game are too busy enjoying it to come onto the forums and complain. Even if a good amount of that number are console gamers.

I see a few copies of skyrim on E-bay going for $21.99. IGN numbers are dropping like a rock with a new staff review about how glitchy and shallow it is. Beth themselves are admitting it is a total bug fest by patching 3 times in the three months it's out with 1.4 still correcting CRASH failure to load issues meaning it's not just random guys saying hey it fails BETH know it fails and know it's not the fault of anyone else. The fact it won several game of the year awards means that there is not one award that is for game of the year. It's kind of like some car awards "won JD powers car of the year named ford ranger" come on man.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:24 am

I invented fire. You worthless schmucks. :tongue:

Lmao thank you so much.... Best game ever no bugs at all
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:38 pm

Skyrims Still AWESOME!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:32 am



I did mention it, yes.

I still fail to see the relevance of sharing my resume. I'm a game designer, that's all that needs to be said.

If you are going to mention it it's only natural that people ask. It's also very very natural that people assume you are lying when you refuse to answer a very natural follow-up question to your own statement.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:36 pm

It amazes me how corrupt save game files get classed as a "bug".That is not a bug that is broken the sooner people stop being enablers the better it amazes me how people roll over and say oh well it will get fixed,it never should have been a damn issue in the first place.Anyway i have gone back to The Witcher 2 anyone played it since the 2.0 patch combat is a treat.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:58 pm

I see a few copies of skyrim on E-bay going for $21.99. IGN numbers are dropping like a rock with a new staff review about how glitchy and shallow it is. Beth themselves are admitting it is a total bug fest by patching 3 times in the three months it's out with 1.4 still correcting CRASH failure to load issues meaning it's not just random guys saying hey it fails BETH know it fails and know it's not the fault of anyone else. The fact it won several game of the year awards means that there is not one award that is for game of the year. It's kind of like some car awards "won JD powers car of the year named ford ranger" come on man.
Everyone knows the game of the year award means nothing its a damn popularity contest a truly flawed way to find a deserving game.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:23 am

It amazes me how corrupt save game files get classed as a "bug".That is not a bug that is broken the sooner people stop being enablers the better it amazes me how people roll over and say oh well it will get fixed,it never should have been a damn issue in the first place.Anyway i have gone back to The Witcher 2 anyone played it since the 2.0 patch combat is a treat.

Then Please continue, my good sir. and go play The Witcher 2.

Edit: My original message got the polite treatment it seems lol.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:55 am

Mine was Monopoly and snakes and ladders.... no big deal.
Damn straight no big deal, especially when compared to me designing Dungeons & Dragons, Planescape: Torment, The Baldur's Gate series, The Total War series, Mario series, Zelda series, etc...
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