The Blades aren't even consistent. They have a huge problem with you conversing and meditating with a dragon on top of a mountain, but they say nothing about you using a dragon to wipe out fortresses and ships and beckon to your call, e.g. Odhaviing. In fact even if you kill Paarth, you can still use Odhaviing.

I don't think the argument that he killed thousands of people is completely valid; it's dragon nature. They are made to control, they are made to exert force and try and gain power. Paarthurnax was just being a dragon, and now he is one of the only ones who even fights the desire. I won't kill him, I never will. Delphine and Esbern can enjoy their lives together in an empty, cold temple for all I care.

One could argue that it is a serial killer's nature to kill people in a ritualistic manner. That doesn't mean society should just let it happen. Same with dragons dominating others and killing people. His nature explains his behavior, but it doesn't excuse it.

That said, he's more than proven he's reformed and has served penance for his crimes.

I had to get over my "unfinished quest in my quest log" phobia pretty early, but this quest stands out pretty strong among the ones I refused to do. If you did everything that was entered into your journal for you, not only would you find yourself choosing between conflicting goals early, you'd serve the whim of every wicked daedra you stumbled upon. Betray my friend, to his or her death, for the whim of an other-worldy demigod? No thank you, not for me. Nor will I kill the head of the greybeards.

But, to each his own. I didn't care for the dark brotherhood agenda, either. It's a dirty job, and someone ELSE can do it.

It's what I didn't like to hear: "Against us"... After all we did. We freed Esbern. Where were the Blades when we got rid of Alduin?

my problem with it is that i just dont want to kill him because hes such a cool dude. i mean he has to resist the urge to kill everyone EVERY DAY! i dont know about you but i dont think i could do that. plus the fact that the blades seem so dam demanding about it, there like "do as we say! why? because we said so now do it" i really hope that Bethesda takes note and gives an option to say "FU@K YOU DELPHINE" well something on those lines anyway.

The witcher.

Oh, is it like that too? I don't play it, since it doesn't let me play fem.

Yeah. It's only like that because they're based off some novels. Still worth it though.

I'd say both dragon age and mass effect put you in some interesting grey area moments as well. Although, unlike Skyrim, there's more explicit heroic paths, if you want to follow them.

It is at times like this that my Persuasion skill of 90 feels like a waste of time. Its extremely frustrating, because this is the sort of unreasonable demand that you should be able to debate with them, even if its such represented in-game by a couple of lines of dialogue and a skill check.

It must be just some coincidence everything he does results in him becoming the new King of Dragons, right?

He hasn't changed, he's just very patient, and very subtle. The Dovakiin should absolutely kill him. Else, he'll just wait until the Dovakiin dies and then come back and re-establish the dragon-cult, with him as the god-king and the greybeards in place of the dragonpriests.

Yeah like in ME2 with a high enough Renegade Skill you could just throw her out of the window or fus ro dah her to death after she made that demand or use the wabbajack to transform her to a chicken .. suits to her

No they're not. There are no repercussions for anything you do in this game.

im on my third playthrough right now and about to enter sorvengarde for the third time, i have never killed him, not even on evil toon. i just can't do it. ill choose the strong allies, badass elder dragon Vs. two whineing people who don't know what they are doing.. hopefully there will be an expansion where u continue the MQ that will effect which u chose to side with, if that day comes i would consider it just to see how it turns out and knock some sence into them to restore their former glory like in oblivion and not just being some dragon killing punks =)

Or he could still be around the next time Alduin shows up to eat the world, and help whomever the gods send to deal with the problem. If he's dead, tough biscuits for the world.

There's a risk to any choice. Paarthurnax is a good bet IMO.

I'm not this far yet, I'm only about to recruit a third follower for the Blades. But I wonder now: are you still able to take your followers with you even after choosing Paarthurnax above the Blades? I'm thinking of recruiting a specific follower, but I don't want to lose him.

Paarthurnax isn't a particularly special dragon, at least not the way Alduin was. You'd still be able to kill him, and the people of Skyrim know how to do that. The Greybeards would NEVER act as the Dragon Priests did, they barely like the Peace Conference because the Imperial and Stormcloak parties were "men of war".

Parthy is a traitor to his own kind. He deserves to die. The blades are trying to keep the world safe, that's an absolute, so your either on board or your not. The grey beards remind me of the myriad of real world kooks and cultists that exist.

No he hasn't. So what if he hid away from mortal society? He wasn't the only dragon to do that. Besides, one dragon couldn't conquer Skyrim. How could one know that Paarthurnax's new philosophy overcame his urge to dominate when any attempt to do so would have resulted in failure?

As creatures that only respect power, dragons will serve their leader until they know it can be defeated. Odahviing proves this by serving Dovahkiin. When Alduin died that left a power vacuum; due to their ambitious nature, the dragons will fight each other for rulership until the strongest comes out on top -that being Paarturnax. Paarthurnax must be killed and have his soul absorbed along with every other dragon to eliminate the threat of dragon tyranny.

The only reason I killed him on my first character was to recruit some of my favorite followers as Blades. This go around I won't.

as a RPG game, you have the option not to continue/complete any task/quest.
just leave them in your quest log, untick/ignore them.

I started but don't complete the companion quest, becos i don't like some decision to be make in the the middle of it

i don't even start the quest about drinking contest, as i (role-play as well) not an alcoholic.

and these quests are not in the main quests line as well.

have to repost this

i hve the treat of Alduin the big bad boss of the dragons PLUS hundreds of flying dragosn that are actively destroying cities and muching on people........AAAAAANNNNd your main focus atm is the dragon who is just sitting there...helping me.....not doing any chaos.....BUT hes the top priotie and if i dont waste him yal are gonna disown me the dragonborn the oen ur group has been looking for 200 years, the person who has giving u purpose again....


this is my main gripe ^