Don't bring them back!!

Seriously. Do not bring them back. If Yagrum is like the Nerevarine, wouldn't the disease make him immortal as well? Well, there you go. There is your DWEMER.

Have fun with that.

Have a bad experience with a mall elf did we?

Yes sir! I hate dwemer ruins, they are so scary with a lot of falmer around.
My dark elf hates them. I always jump on my chair when exploring dwemer ruins in skyrim.
They are so nice in Morrowind .

Well, bethesda pretty much likes to keep them as a mysterious ancient race; i doubt that'll change
Even dlcs set in the past wont do

Have they ever been in a TES game? I mean i know about that fat cyborg one in Morrowind but really I don't think i've ever seen dwemer in any TES game.

Not in the flesh. Apart from the guy in Morrowind, no.

one is stil alive in morrowwind, he knows their fate and tells you in morrowwind.
he is stil allive today due to a specific deisease and cure as the disease makes you immortal but disfigured and the cure only removes the disfigurement or something. go play morrowwins if your truly interested it's well cheap to pick up on steam ( as no-where will have a box)

From the Many-Headed Talos
"And after the throne of Alinor did finally break at the feet of Men, and news of it came to the Dragon Emperor in Cyrodiil, he gathered his captains and spoke to them, saying:
"'You have suffered for me to win this throne, and I see how you hate jungle. Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.'"

And Pan, please re-read the quotes I provided, especially the one from Baladas Demnevanni.
He is quite certain what happened to the Dwemer, its a bit silly to say 'no-one knows what happened' when the truth can be gleamed from those exact quotes I provided.

The Dwemer were called Dwarves by the Giants for obvious reasons. The Imperials still call them that, even though it isn't accurate. The Dwemer used to live in Morrowind and because of that, they looked almost exactly like Dunmer. The only difference is all Dwemer males grew beards, the longer the better. It's possible and probably likely that Dunmer are decedents of Dwemer. Create a Dunmer character in Skyrim with a long beard and fit him in Dwarven armor or a robe and that is what a Dwemer looked like.

No, both Dwemer and Dunmer are of Aldmer stock originally.
The Dwemer seceded from the Aldmer in the Dawn Era over religious differences and headed North.
The Chimer split off a little later also due to differences in world-view.
Some Chimer followed the prophet Veloth to Morrowind. These Velothi later became Dumner when they were cursed with blue skin and red eyes by Azura.

A few things need to be cleared up in this thread.

Fact: The Dwemer are not really dwarves. They were as large as any man/mer and that's why you can wear their armor without problems. "Dwarf" is a misnomer that was probably initiated when some giants originally met the Dwemer in the merethic era or some such.

Fact: The Dwemer are presumed dead, but they might not be. Apparently they all vanished about 700 years into the first era (well, all but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Yagrum_Bagarn). No living mortal (in Tamriel, at least) has seen them since, but they might still be alive *somewhere*.

Fact: The Dwemer are generally bearded, but that alone does not make them elf nords. Whereas nords are a race of men who hold honor and battle prowess above all else, Dwemer are scheming, intelligent, advanced, objective dwellers of the underworld. They do not appreciate honor in the traditional sense and apparently value mechanical, technical, and arcane ability over most other practices. They are generally considered heretics and blasphemers by the other races because they do not follow any of the divines nor any of the Daedra. At one point, they tried to make a new god from the remains of the divine Lorkhan (which, incidentally, may have been the cause of their disappearance).

They are, however, refered to as 'Dwarves' by Imperials and in texts throughout Tamriel. It's the name the Giants GAVE them. It is not their true name. Just as Dark Elves are actually call 'Dunmer' or High Elves 'Altmer'.

Dwarf does not mean 'short' in Tamriel. Not in the way we use it.


No. They were absorbed into the Numidium. It's all detailed in Morrowind. It happened when they tried to build an artificial God to change their place in the order of the world. They disappeared because when it was switched 'on' it absorbed the whole race into it. And then Broke.

Technologically advanced though they were the Dwemer's innovations actually resulted in their (Near - bar one) extinction.


Correct. But who the hell said they were Nords?

The "absorbed into Numidium" is just one theory of many. Nobody really knows what happened. Though if you believe Sermon Zero, "To the Dwemer and Oblivion belong this treasure and they are there dead." Come to think of it, the existence of Dwemer ghosts raises doubt about the nature of Dwemer disappearance being a spiritual event rather than physical demise.

There were several mortals who actually saw a living Dwemer, back in the days of Morrowind. Such as: Divayth Fyr, his daughters, Vistha-Kai and the Nerevarine. Yagrum Bagarn is the Dwemer in question of course, poor bloated senile bastard that he was.

The Nerevarine also conversed with, and got help from, a semi-sane Dwemer ghost, but of course, he forgot to ask the all-important "So, what DID happen to the Dwarves?" question.

It was explained that the Dwemer Ghost's were those of Dwemer that died before the dissapearance.
The people that created the story know what happened to the Dwemer, and they explained that they were absorbed into Numidium. As all the clues in Morrowind point towards.
In my opinion, a far more interesting question is why did Kagrenac fail?
Why did Numidium not come to life? Did the Triune deactivate it?

Or.. possible.. maybe it did come to life, but moved backwards in time compared to everyone else who moved forwards.
Then you get the classic H.G. Wells time machine paradox, where you didnt see it in the past because it didnt travel backwards at the then-then, and you dont see it moving at all in the present, because its motion is in another temporal dimension.
Just a thought.

Source?

Also, if the disappearance was indeed a spiritual event, wouldn't it consume the discorporated souls as well as those still residing in physical bodies (as well as the bodies themselves of course)?


No, they have been intentionally vague about it. There are strong clues, yes, but no definitive "this is what happened to the Dwarves." And I hope it stays that way for a while.


That depends on the point of view. One of my favorite theories is that the Triune re-wrote the history (broke the dragon) when they became gods, so all the BS and propaganda in the Lessons of Vivec became actual reality and truth. And the Lessons state that the Numidium did, in fact, walk and was defeated by the Tribunal, which caused the Dwemer to vanish:

Dwemeri high priest Kagrenac then revealed that which he had built in the image of Vivec. It was a walking star, which burnt the armies of the Triune and destroyed the heartland of Veloth, creating the Inner Sea.
Each of the aspects of the ALMSIVI then rose up together, combining as one, and showed the world the sixth path. Ayem took from the star its fire, Seht took from it its mystery, and Vehk took from it its feet, which had been constructed before the gift of Molag Bal and destroyed in the manner of truth: by a great hammering. When the soul of the Dwemer could walk no more, they were removed from this world.

The Dwemer are just such a delicious subject to debate, indeed.

Dwemer History and Culture. Page 6 and 7. Marobar Suls 17 books on ancient tales of the Dwemer was seized upon in a surge of human racial nationalism
that has not yet subsided. Hasphat Antabolis says the Dwemer in theses tales appear as creatures of fable and light fantasy, but in general they are"just like us"

Check it out