-Where?
-Given.
-No, no you don't.
-Not allowed.
-They got around it by using fake drugs. They re-named Morphine for this reason. It's easier to rationalize as a super-vitamin or something, after all, if you don't use a real name.


It's not the only potential risk, but considering the outspoken and tightly-knit nature of some of these groups, PLUS the fact that less "normal" people see them as complete psychos, makes certain strong religious interests dangerous to deal with.

What Are You Guys Talking About???

In FO2.



You do, in FO2.



Allowed, in FO1 and 2.

Ah, sorry. I know of the existence of and have played the first two games, I somehow missed the "Fallout games have pushed the envelope" point that started the whole thing. Entirely my fault, I apologize. I've been thinking in terms of Bethesda's Fallout series, I barely connect them at times.

Allow me to redeem myself with something that actually makes sense in context.

The industry has changed. During the release of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, gaming was more of a niche market. Especially when it comes to computer RPGs, rather than console platformers. Cost and risk anolysis change when you aren't developing for a niche market.

Bethesda pours millions of dollars into these games. These games have to sell to a much wider audience to be considered a success. I'm pretty sure it was stated that Fallout 3 has since sold far more copies than 1 and 2 ever did combined. Gaming is a new beast, at least the market Bethesda is aiming for. Mass market appeal, means mass market exposure....and mass controversy, which could throw a wrench in the expected earnings of a millions of dollars project.

And remember, child killing WAS an issue out there, beyond the sea, somewhere.

Well, the discussion is about the fact that because of Obsidian developing it and having some of the original Fallout devs, New Vegas might tackle some of the more controversial issues that Bethesda didn't want to in FO3. And they might get away with more in a spin-off than in a major numbered Fallout title.

Can we get he Hubo's back? Man they were fun.

I don't mind if there are less pop culture references but every now and again I slip movie/game lines into my everyday talk just to see if people notice... so why can't our main character have options to be silly. Like the '2 kinds of people my friend' line used in Fallout 2, of course where would a tribal man know such a line, I'm not sure.

Fallout 2>Fallout 1

Give me craziness aplenty plz!!!!!

I'm replaying FO2, with restoration this time, and I just got to New Reno. I am just doing the chop shop part and some of the dialogue there is funny.

one option was to the effect of: Mr. Bishop will take his car with all the addons and free bateries and let you continue your operations.

T-ray: AH man thats a raw deal! (much longer response but memory fails.

Chosen one: do you think you are being treated unfairly?

IT had the whole Cloud city darth vader deal going was good. :

Why would you want the Hubologists back if you want less pop culture references?

They said they don't mind if there are less, but think a few should stay, as far as I can tell.

Hubologists go far beyond a few throw away lines referencing pop [censored]...

Lulz at Tom Cruise in Fallout 2. Sorry, Juan Cruz.

I thought Hines said it wasn't a spin off. :confused:

It's a spin off, but it's an RPG spinoff rather than a genre spinoff like Tactics and... that other one of which we don't speak.

It's officially a spin-off, although it's likely to be more of a sequel than FO3 is.

Pete Hines also said the pip boy was a replica and not a digital clock. Even though it fell way short on both functions.

People still listen to Pete Hines?

Wondering for which platform i should get this New Vegas...
Got FO3 PC, graphics wise i should've bought it for 360 but then there are allways mods.
Because i got FO3, why should i get Vegas for PC? (And of course they're going to update graphics and make the game unplayable. Running FO3 on low-med, upgrading laptops doesn't happen to be possible)
Will modding community move to Vegas from 3?

Of course biggest thing is wether the game's interesting. FO3 is all right but i haven't done even a part of the side quests, they don't seem to be interesting enough (Applies to FO1 too though, though the main quest doesn't seem to be motivating either. Not even talking about FO2). Can Obsidian do better job?
Whose idea is to release games in so close succesion anyway...

why are you even here if you dont like any of the fallout games?

Some references don't get in the way, others do. It's hard to define the difference between the two.

I do have to admit, the explicit pop culture references weren't hilarious. I'm all for the insanity and ridiculous-ness, but in hindsight I wouldn't want more celebrity parodies.

I wouldn't really mind the Hubologists returning, if they were used as less of a parody.

Anyone remember the crazed monks from http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/wasteland? The ones that were worshipping the bomb (but much worse than the few people in Megaton in Fallout 3)? I wouldn't mind seeing them again. They were fun.

Also, bring back the VISA cards! Or is that even possible anymore? Did they license the use of the name VISA for Wasteland..?

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