Skyrim is overall the best TES game.

Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:27 pm

For me, it probably is.

Morrowind has a certain charm, to me, but I cannot hack it's crappy combat and spells systems, or 'chase the hyperlink' dialogue system. I remember it fondly, but just can't replay it any more.

Oblivion had a number of improved in-game mechanic tweaks, but at the end of the day it lacked soul, for me. All the NPCs were just so generically cheerful all the time.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:43 pm

Agree, not allowing multiple runes was a major misstep. Runes should cost alot, be spamable and last until cell resets. Throw balance out for this one because fun > misguided balance.

Yes, I would say not an infinite number, but 4 or 5 at a time would have been good fun.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:37 pm

For me, it probably is.

Morrowind has a certain charm, to me, but I cannot hack it's crappy combat and spells systems, or 'chase the hyperlink' dialogue system. I remember it fondly, but just can't replay it any more.

Oblivion had a number of improved in-game mechanic tweaks, but at the end of the day it lacked soul, for me. All the NPCs were just so generically cheerful all the time.

I probably don't have quite the negative view you do of Oblivion, but generally, this is how I feel.

Morrowind was amazing (my favorite game of all time), but aged poorly. It's poor gameplay mechanics make it very difficult to go back and play. However, it has great depth in terms of character design and customization.

Oblivion drastically improved in the gameplay department, but it lost a lot of the choice that made Morrowind special. There's still tons of it, and I still love Oblivion (2nd favorite game of all time).

Then came Skyrim, which improved upon what Oblivion did right, and as far as I'm concerned, removed what it did wrong. Yes, there is a lower number of skills, but I feel it offers far more choice by giving deeper skills than ever before. The world is so much more detailed, and so much more alive. It just has so much more heart. As someone who's never really had a fondness for Nords, I have fallen in love with them by living in their world.

Skyrim became my new favorite game of all time, bumping Morrowind to #2 and Oblivion to #3. It's improvements far outweigh the minor things it lacks.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:19 am

Skyrim isnt perfect, but it's as addictive as the previous 2 i've played.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:46 am

Morrowind is still my first love. Skyrim comes so very close but it lost my interest after 150 hours or so. I played unmodded Morrowind for probably 200+ hours before i even added mods........Skyrim i was looking for mods after about 50 hours of gameplay. It's hard to explain but Skyrim gets kind of dull after awhile. It's much better than Oblivion though so they are on the right track.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:10 am

I agree, Skyrim is far away the best, even better then Morrowind, though I know other people who have also played Morrowind will disagree >.>
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:32 am

Nope.

Visual / technological improvements aside, Skyrim is pretty much worse in every way.

It's still a good game though.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:52 am

I respectfully disagree. I enjoy Oblivion, Daggerfall and Morrowind more.

Most of my reasons are unashamedly bias/nostalgic.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:47 am

I respectfully disagree. I enjoy Oblivion, Daggerfall and Morrowind more.

Most of my reasons are unashamedly bias/nostalgic.

Haha, an honest Morrowind fan.

Lets get real, people only say Morrowind is better because of nostalgia, while in reality, it is anything but. People want the old guild system back and all that, but surely i'm not the only one who remembers how tedious that was. God, even thinking about it is depressing me.

I love what Beth have done with Skyrim, the guilds don't take up a chunk of uneccessary time and the Main Quest is epic!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:46 am

Haha, an honest Morrowind fan.

Lets get real, people only say Morrowind is better because of nostalgia, while in reality, it is anything but. People want the old guild system back and all that, but surely i'm not the only one who remembers how tedious that was. God, even thinking about it is depressing me.

I love what Beth have done with Skyrim, the guilds don't take up a chunk of uneccessary time and the Main Quest is epic!
Morrowind is a superior open-world RPG by far.

Daggerfall is a superior RPG / dungeon crawler by far.

Nostalgia has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of people who tried Morrowind/Daggerfall late and recognise their superiority.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:03 pm

Tell you what.
Come back in 10 years.
If -anyone- is still playing Skyrim (like there is still an active Daggerfall fanbase playing away to this day.....15 years after release....), then you can make statements about Skyrim's greatness.

But no matter how you twist it, it is an action game with very limited rpg-ish elements, and the franchise has been drifting in that direction ever since Certain People™ took the helm. I'm still waiting for gamesas to actually field 'The sequel to 1996's GOTY Daggerfall'. Decent graphics and world design do not a CRPG make.....and the weak storyline, weaker implementation of same, lack of effect on the world and total unconcern the world shows for your existance, negligible length secondary and tertiary quests and I could go on and on but why bother? I just hope that CRPG's learn the lesson that pretty graphics do not a game make. Shooters did, but even there it was close......
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:27 am

Oh yes skyrim really good, skyrim have less questline, less weapon, less armor , less spells, less skill, less attribute, little cities, same IA of 6 years ago, and more less respect oblivion or morrowind is the more little Elder Scrolls ever made (for now).

For everything you say they 'removed' I can come up with something that is better so go ahead.... there isn't less weapons and the armor has been moulded so you can have suits so no biggy there either, btw attributes don't make a game gameplay does! Your opinion is your own.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:08 pm

No quest directions.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:39 am

Graphics for Skyrim are good, And some of the new features are amazing (Smithing, Executions,) but all in all it feels to me hollow compared to the others. The stories in the game, eg missions, guilds are weak and short. But it seems the OMG factor for the TES games has been getting less and less with each new installment since Morrowind. I'm not a fan boy of it but they simply have simplified it twice now in the hopes of bringing in more mainstream gamers to make more profit. I want 30-50 different armors, mix and match clothing under or over, I want to be able to have cool weapons; Spears, crossbows, thrown weapons.

They have tried lvling enemies in two games now and it doesnt work. Give me back the old game taste where there were places you could not go till you became stronger. It's just how I feel. TES is getting more PG and less RPG by the installment. Used to be a challenge to take a warrior race like orc or nords and make them a mage now its childs play.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:13 am

Skyrim has been trimmed of all the fat but i prefer my meat to have the fat left on, That's where all the flavour is.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:40 am

I loved oblivion but i think skyrim is so much better :P
And morrowind is still the best
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:29 pm

Morrowind is a superior open-world RPG by far.

Daggerfall is a superior RPG / dungeon crawler by far.

Nostalgia has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of people who tried Morrowind/Daggerfall late and recognise their superiority.

Nope, its nostalgia, thinking something in the past was better even though it wasen't. Honestly sometimes I wish Morrowind and Co had been created after Skyrim and Skyrim was the 1st of its kind, everyone would be calling it the greatest game ever bar none. Then if you created Morrowind and Daggerfall people would get all nostalgic of Skyrim and complain that the cities in Morrowind and Daggerfall are too big, or that the guild quests are stupidly long. Honestly, human tendencies to overrate the past is pathetic. Let it go guys, let it go.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:28 am

Come on people Perks and Skills are the same thing .

Perks = Improved skills.

So, basically the same.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:49 am

TL;DR: I'm enjoying Skyrim, as any ES fan would. But the superficiality, streamlining and bugs have really prevented it from me holding it in high esteem.

That really says it all. It's shiny, but shallow.

I would be back playing Oblivion waiting for mods and DLC if it's engine wasn't such a disaster. Hell, modded Skyrim runs better on my computer than vanilla Oblivion does. So kudos for Beth for improving their engine, atleast :goodjob:
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:16 pm

Skills are a linear progression of your characters ability to do things. Perks are abilities your character picks up that can enhance skills, augment aspects of skills, or provide new capabilities altogether.

Without skills, perks are useless.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:16 am

As a console player, obviously Skyrim is the best for me. Ive never played morrowind, but looking at the gameplay videos, I dont think I ever could. The text and menus look too small and complicated, but maybe thats just me because I never played it when it came out.

I got oblivion on ps3, it was good on there, put in about 100 hours, but I soon got bored of it. Now I have skyrim, oblivion looks horrible graphically.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:26 pm

I have 200 hours into Skyrim and I am having a ball. I am actually doing more rp then I did in OB.
A lot of rp is what you make it yourself, jmho but Skyrim does not box you in, you have to rp and control yourself.
I find myself thinking in character more and making decisions based on the play through.
I think content and diversity are much more then OB.
In my 200 hours I have only completed the TG, college and companion quests.
I think there are more options then OB by far.
OB was a grinding game, how many folks did the joining the mg quests dozens of times with different characters just so they could enchant something or create a spell?
How tedious and boring was that?
I think plain Skyrim is far above plain OB and still has more upside to come with dlc and patches.
I probably had about 30 hours on my pc version but it is too crappy to keep going. I give up on fighting with it until the bugs are gone. My laptop is far above min requirements and it svcks!
My ps3 experience has been much smoother, especially with the auto saves turned off.
Skyrim has lives up to it's billing IMHO!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:43 am

Lets see Skyrim has :

Lesser skills
Lesser armor Slots
Watered down enchanting
No spell-making
Lesser spells
Shorter guild storylines
Lesser potions?

Hmm for me Morrwind was the best as it had all this content in the game. But hey Skyrim is at a second place!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:14 pm

Lets see Skyrim has :

Lesser skills
Lesser armor Slots
Watered down enchanting
No spell-making
Lesser spells
Shorter guild storylines
Lesser potions?

Hmm for me Morrwind was the best as it had all this content in the game. But hey Skyrim is at a second place!
Plus stuff dropped from Oblivion:

Lesser unique enemies
No weapon/armour degrading or repairing
No places for special magic to draw from
No places to get special armour for a while
No haggling to get cheaper prices.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:43 pm

I think if they had kept the attribute system, and magic system(spell creation) in the game, Armor and weapon degradation, as well, it would have been one of the best TES in the series if not the best. I miss the journal as well it made it more RP friendly. Also the layout in the Oblivion menu that showed you your rank in each guild and title. Now I have to remember where I'm Thane, unless I missed something.
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