hes totally legit, and like three people all smashed up in one god of man. He mantled (took the place of) the missing god shor/lorkhan, the missing god in es lore. Also he has apperared as teh profit in knight of the nine (ob) and the morrowind main quest as an old imperial. Elves just hate him cause he whooped up on them with a giant stompy robot, and the god he mantled really hates elves

Also he hold the world together, teh thalmor want him gone so they can destroy the world

In all likelihood, you ARE a demigod so I wouldn't complain too much.

Of course, I don't believe a word of "The Real Barenziah."

I agree with everthing you said.

That's what you think.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nine-divines-talos

This just proves that he is better off being banned.

At first Talos was a man called Tiber Septim. His existence is something that no one can deny. Does he really became divine? Yes he does. In Oblivion's main quest you needed to get blood of divine to open the portal to Mankar Camoran's Paradise. You got that blood from Tiber Septim's cuirass.
So if Talos is not a divine Champion of Cyrodiil never opened the portal to Camoran's Paradise and so on all Tamriel servers Mehrunes Dagon as his slaves now. That never happened so Talos is a divine, it doesn't matter if the elves want to deny it - they are just wrong.

I'm not sure I care that much to complain for long. I like roleplaying fairly normal adventurers. He doesn't sit around and think about gods very much, whether other gods or his own potential as one. Perhaps that's the closest I relate to talos. He's supposed to be a patron to adventurers. That's what my character is. A man of action. Not a priest.

I think I know what I think but Im not sure if you understood what you read.

Ask yourself why the Thalmor would go to so much trouble to put down a mere superstition. Of course Talos is divine. They're terrified of him.

I don't think that's necessarily true, if you took real life into account. When people oppose belief systems like the Thalmor do, they do it because they genuinely care about religion. Whether it's the spanish inquisition, or a jihad, or someone who kills people at abortion clinics. These people believe in what they do. The Thalmor sound the same to me. They sound like religious zealots. It's not just a ruse. Talk to any one of them, and the first thing out of their mouth is a strong conviction about religion. Go to the Thalmor Embassy and there's that one male Thalmor who doesn't talk about anything but religion. He says that people don't care enough about the nuances of religious matters. This is the type of person who's genuinely obsessed about his beliefs. If you went to a party and someone just incessantly talked about their religion, do you actually think they give a damn about other beliefs or had some hidden motivation? This is never the case. People who talk like that are genuinely obsessed.

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But hey! Why waste a good opportunity to brought up nazis and Hitler!

According to the link you posted, Talos is the patron of just rulership and civil society. Either you're the Madmen of the Reach or you're the Madman of Whatever-New-Lore-Related-Place

You can also be a Thalmor agent, but I like to think you're one of the first two

Uh. Any link which begins with imperial-library is NOT going to be impartial....

Talos is a 9, not just because I'm a Nord, but also because you don't need a lot of evidence that he was on earth, because he's with the other gods now, and so its not like he's going to be some physical charater, you know?

That's just the name of the lore wiki.

Hmmm.

The Imperial library mostly just posts the in-game texts, the games; stories, lore notes, dev posts, ect.

Dang, you give Talos a 9 and he's a god. You sir have very high standards.

According to the duck principle, he's a Divine. ("If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's a duck -- at least until proven otherwise by DNA testing.")
The Thalmor's actual argument is force. "Say he's divine, and we'll kill you." Hardly convincing. The utter lameness of The Talos Mistake pretty much proves this.

We're dangerously close to talking about things that aren't allowed here, but just wanted to say that in my experience you're exactly wrong. When discussing fanatical groups that persecute people in the name of religion, chances are high that the real motivation is something else - control of women, an excuse to abuse minorities, an excuse to take property from a class of people who are wealthy. As far as individuals are concerned, a public spectacle of faith often conceals private behavior which is the opposite of whatever that religion calls for.

The Altmer have never been known for their exceptional piety, or for their interest in the thoughts and motivations of other races. They're doing this for their own reasons.

But Daedra also have their own planes of Oblivion, which is essentially their own private dimension...what does that make them? If all the powerful 'Divine' characters have abilities like that, and so does Talos, then I don't see how Talos isn't a Divine. And as far as I know, none of the mages in the games have enough magical ability to create an "enchantment" that powerful.

Talos is an Aedra. Proof: In Oblivion, you use some of his blood to create a portal to Paradise. If what the Thalmor said is true, then that wouldn't have worked. Talos had ascended into being an Aedra after his death. He's also the first Septim Dragonborn and conquered all of Tamriel. Yeah...Talos is probably the most awesome God ever.

And that's why I worship Talos, despite being in the Theives Guild and being a Nightingale.

The Thalmor are just butt hurt because they didn't get an Elf that ascended into being a God.

What appears to be an Altmeri commentary on Talos:
To kill Man is to reach Heaven, from where we came before the Doom Drum's iniquity. When we accomplish this, we can escape the mockery and long shame of the Material Prison.
To achieve this goal, we must:
1) Erase the Upstart Talos from the mythic. His presence fortifies the Wheel of the Convention, and binds our souls to this plane.
2) Remove Man not just from the world, but from the Pattern of Possibility, so that the very idea of them can be forgotten and thereby never again repeated.
3) With Talos and the Sons of Talos removed, the Dragon will become ours to unbind. The world of mortals will be over. The Dragon will uncoil his hold on the stagnancy of linear time and move as Free Serpent again, moving through the Aether without measure or burden, spilling time along the innumerable roads we once travelled. And with that we will regain the mantle of the imperishable spirit.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/monomyth
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/annotated-anuad

The Thalmor so desperately wish Talos was an Elf....then there would be no problem at all. The Dominion made a huge propaganda machine after the oblivion crises claiming they ended it with their superior magical ability, despite it being a human being the one who did it. Then a human ascends to being a God, and oh boy....that doesn't sit well with the "superior race". There boy Ancano couldn't even get a hold of the eye of magnus without another Dragonborn coming along and frying him.

They're the sore losers on the game field, who carry the big meat-head players, but in the end, lose to the underdog because of being overly prideful and arrogant.

He let me plunge a sword into Umaril's soul. Completely owning a big, stupid elf once is fun. Seeing the look on his face the second time is just priceless.