Must be sent on February 31st

It seems to me they are just voicing their opinion, not implying that they have inside information about it. As it is their opinion they are 100% correct - that it is their opinion.

Video on YouTube about it.

We do have a tendency as human beings to force order on chaotic things. There's also little doubt that a lot of far reaching (grasping?) was done, though nothing like the parody YouTube link video. In fact, their reasoning is not entirely unsound. I encourage everyone to check out the original http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/nklj2/you_know_those_runes_on_the_lids_of_the_bug_jars/?sort=top link. That gives the real non-spoofed account of efforts of a lore officianado to figure out the meaning of the runes on the lid (which are really there, though if they mean what is concluded can easily be debated.)

An interesting read at the very least. As for the person who recalled that there is a map of Skyrim with a pentagram on it in the museum in Dawnstar, not accurate. I went in there myself just to look at what really is there. It is not even recognizably a map of Skyrim. At least it doesn't have any of the holds or city names on it nor any recognizable land features from the map of Skyrim. It does have a circle on it, but the symbol inside is not a pentagram.

So the tenous reasoning out of the bug jars being very obscure but intentional clues to the Thalmor agenda might be dismissable as reading too much into a simple decoration. The lore and explanation for what the Thalmor want to do and why they are so dead set on Skyrim is not. That at least is solid truth as far as lore is concerned.

So I say, thank you bugs in the jars. Even if you are not meant as a warning, by your existance alone, you have inspired (riled the madness?) of far more dedicated people to revealing something I certainly never knew about before. I mean, come on! Who really cares at this point if they are truly there on purpose or not. A possible method, sound and true by the universe's own creation lore, that the Thalmor could use to unmake all of the lower gradients of creation?!?!?! I definitely would NOT expect such a huge possibility to be tackled in a DLC. That sounds like a plot for Elder Scrolls 6 and when we can actually fight it perhaps in the heart of their land.

I actually have 2 torchbugs in jars, and one butterfly in a jar. I guess they respawn, because I scored the Torchbug, then went back to the location to do the loc quest and there was a 2nd jar...

The torchbug makes an annoying noise in your house with its wings flapping. The butterfly is nice and silent.

Alraedy answered in my post #66

You win.

I have translated the text to read:

"Bernardin"

EDIT: Turns out you may not get this unless you are from canada.

The center of the pentagram is meaningless. The powerful parts are in its points.

Collecting bugs may be as quest related as the over-sized objects in FO3.

...or maybe we all just lost the game.

One guy on Reddit thinks they're part of a transmuntate...transmutate...trans...-you should know what I mean, hopefully- ritual. It symbolizes the end of the world or something like that. But I have no clue, lol. I'm not gonna be investigating, Skyrim has enough quests to take up my time already.

From that link: "Someone noticed the connection between the five cities Morthal, Whiterun, Winterhold, Dawnstar, and Windhelm, and realized they formed a Pentagon."

Except they dont. A pentagon has equidistant points and these cities are not. At most you can say these cities form a 5 sided shape, but then they would have to, wouldnt they?

I'm gonna place one of the Buf jars outside and see of it does anything. It may attract that type of bug. I also am starting to think that each of the five holds gives you the quest that actually has the location of the jars.

Anyone remember that theory that there was a massive easter egg involving the Headless Horseman and morphing into a dragon?

We'll find out once the CK is released.

maybe well have several large scale expansion packs involving them. Maybe there will be hundreds of new jar types and bugs to collect in jars. You will be able to open your own bug museum with thousands of shelves of jars. Maybe youll be able to buy super rare Daedric Jars and even collect, sell, and trade, personally customized (or even randomly generated) 1 of a kind jars amongst thousands of new bug jar vendors across all of skyrim. Maybe you can marry them, or even adopt them, or even have them as your followers. Maybe theyl come in various shapes, colors, sizes, and varieties. Maybe well see a whole new set of dungeons stocked with bugs in jars, and even a bug in jar enemie set with hundreds of new bugs-in-jars to fight all over the land of skyrim. Maybe you will find dragons in jars or even better.... children in jars. And i never troll.

I figured it out.

With each bug jar you find, there's a way to open it. Figuring out how to do so releases the bug trapped inside, and a bug you've been experiencing on your computer or console during play also disappears. By freeing the luna moth, my console stopped crashing.

Those Bethesda programmers are devious.

This is reminding me of the "Is Sithis real?" thread where my brain nearly exploded.

So from what I'm seeing on here once the CK comes out we will know if the bugs have a meaning?

If you read the works of Alan Watts, your image of the world and existence will be shattered to pieces.

The surest sign that an argument against something is floundering is when weak points or non points are being offered up, nitpicking for example. A pentagon is defined as a shape with five sides, period. A five point star with internal segments is a pentagon, but has intersecting sides and is not a "simple" polygon. A square looking shape with a triangular wedge from two corners into the middle of the square cut out is a pentagon, but not a convex one. What you speak of is an equiangular and equilateral pentagon, or regular pentagon, and no, it is not necessary for the five city's locations to be that to form a pentagon, although in real world lore/mythology/magic traditions, the version used in rituals often is.

As I said, I find the leaps that led to the idea a bit of a stretch, but none of them are beyond logic or common sense as the clear parody video made out. Was merely pointing out how there is a real or serious effort to link these things up that led to the conclusion. It is far from time to march out the red herrings, weak last ditch points, or nitpick at details as though all reason for real doubt has been lost. I think we can safely poke at the difficulties in translating the runes, and the further fact that not all of them are clear in the first place. In fact, the noticing that those five cities form a pentagon with a dragon mound at midpoint on the connecting lines is really almost an unrelated issue and could have a real basis in planned architecture from way back in the days when dragons ruled. As has been stated, nowhere in previous lore has any summoning required a ritual involving such.

However, if you read their attempts to translate, it is those that lead to the tie in with the eight towers and the prophecy spoken of in that first book you find, the book of the dragonborn. It was almost a parallel issue that there happens to be a geometic correlation in the cities. Bear in mind that the likeliest explanation of larger scale quest idea that never made it into the final game leaving artifacts could be true and that the people digging into old norse runes may have also put together what that would have been. Perfectly possible and non exclusive explanations.

But my main point was simpler than all that. It was just this: the possibility of unmaking the last of the eight towers that anchor creation is a "real" thing in the lore of the series universe whether some runes on the lid of bug jars were an actual intentional clue to it or just seeing patterns in the cloud. A truth is uncovered, so accidentally or intentionally, those bugs served a purpose.

There isnt any mystery.
If there was one its like the Lost Boy Cavern or the Pool of Forgetfullnes in Sharapli.
Its there but it does not do anything

If there was anything to it, coders would have found it by now, construction set or not.
There just is not anything there, people have transcribed the runes, its fluff.

I read the incredibly long post on reddit months ago...did some research in my boredom...my above post is a conclusion on the "theory" from reddit because that is the most popular one.

If any 5 points form a pentagon then it makes no sense to say "these 5 points seem to form a pentagon". Of course they would since by your definition any 5 non-collinear points would form one.

It was almost a parallel issue that there happens to be a geometic correlation in the cities.

There is no geometric correlation. You just see what you want to see. You take 5 random points and force them to look like a pentagon.

Which is what Im saying, only better researched.
Ok thats it then.
Move along people, nothing to see here.

seriously if there was any meaning people sniffing the game code would have found it.
Nothing to see here, move along.

What thread is that? I tried searching and can't find anything. Lore section?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQVfHVdDZg&feature=plcp&context=C349922dUDOEgsToPDskLWmRm8LkTdr7us3JwgAMJN [censored] son.