The Resistance

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:42 am

they are getting hostile in order to survive. on the ark the people who do nothing get the water


Yes, but their hostility is working out great, isnt it? Id say they are dying faster then before.
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megan gleeson
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:22 am

Yes, but their hostility is working out great, isnt it? Id say they are dying faster then before.

sometimes violence is necessary to solve problems. they werent making any progress by not fighting back
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:57 pm

they are getting hostile in order to survive. on the ark the people who do nothing get the water

The founders are the ones who planned and made the ark so I think they deserve a bit more after all that work.
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Erich Lendermon
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:44 pm

Made the Ark, mate. Made the Ark.
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Stay-C
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:47 pm

Made the Ark, mate. Made the Ark.

i doubt that they built the ark. they made the blueprints and hired cheap labor to build it. and then they took all the credit for it
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:30 am

The founders are the ones who planned and maded the ark so I think they deserve a bit more after all that work.

And the refugee's are the ones who keep it afloat.
I must agree with Rammer on this one. The person who does more work, deserves more water. But for the Resistance, they shouldnt have started getting hostile to get their demands.

Oh, so if they just waited a couple more years, The Security may have turned around and gave them equal resources? You are just pulling at straws man.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:51 pm

And the refugee's are the ones who keep it afloat.

Oh, so if they just waited a couple more years, The Security may have turned around and gave them equal resources? You are just pulling at straws man.


In a way, yes. But there others that arent refugees that do their part too.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:38 pm

Oh, so if they just waited a couple more years, The Security may have turned around and gave them equal resources? You are just pulling at straws man.

Britain gave the slaves there freedom without going to war about it :celebration:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:14 pm

And the refugee's are the ones who keep it afloat.

Oh, so if they just waited a couple more years, The Security may have turned around and gave them equal resources? You are just pulling at straws man.



Actually, yes. All the war is doing is tearing the Ark apart.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:40 am

Britain gave the slaves there freedom without going to war about it :celebration:

depends on which slaves you are talking about. america fought a war to relieve themselves from british rule. canada decided to wait 200 years to get freedom

Actually, yes. All the war is doing is tearing the Ark apart.

the ark was in chaos anyway. the war is just making this worse
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:51 pm

Actually, yes. All the war is doing is tearing the Ark apart.

instead of making a new post why did you not just edit the old one
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:20 pm

depends on which slaves you are talking about. america fought a war to relieve themselves from british rule. canada decided to wait 200 years to get freedom


the ark was in chaos anyway. the war is just making this worse


I rest my case.

instead of making a new post why did you not just edit the old one


Didnt think about it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:24 am

depends on which slaves you are talking about. america fought a war to relieve themselves from british rule. canada decided to wait 200 years to get freedom

Britain had just fought a war to kick the french out of a america and throught that at least america could pay for a little for the war bill but no you decided to stab us in the back instead. thanks alot.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:18 am

Britain had just fought a war to kick the french out of a america and throught that at least america could pay for a little for the war bill but no you decided to stab us in the back instead. thanks alot.


You should make this an international argument. These are game forums. Dont hate on America for something that happened hundreds of years ago.
Anyways, back to BRINK.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:28 am

Britain had just fought a war to kick the french out of a america and throught that at least america could pay for a little for the war bill but no you decided to stab us in the back instead. thanks alot.

Don't worry, you got nothing on the Native Americans. We REALLY [censored] them over.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:45 am

Don't worry, you got nothing on the Native Americans. We REALLY [censored] them over.

dont remind me :whistling:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:40 pm

Don't worry, you got nothing on the Native Americans. We REALLY [censored] them over.

well it at least freed us up to take india instead
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:10 pm

I think that the security should have more food/water because they are risking there lives to do there job whereas the refugees do easier jobs so deserve less and the founder are the owns and leaders of the ark so should also get more food/water than any other group of people on the ark.



Yes....the refugees get the easy jobs... :facepalm:

Really? The refugees got all the HARD jobs. They keep the Ark floating, without them everything would have fallen apart.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:32 am

Yes....the refugees get the easy jobs... :facepalm:

Really? The refugees got all the HARD jobs. They keep the Ark floating, without them everything would have fallen apart.

Before refugees arrived, the ark was self sufficient, so the work they do is to balance the overpopulation of the ark, imo, and no one asked them to come to the ark in the first place :D I think its natural that they don't get treated the same as scientists and others... (not saying its good)
imo, without them there wouldnt have been any problem in the first place
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:30 pm

I think its natural that they don't get treated the same as scientists and others... (not saying its good)


It's sayings like this why the majority of Humans don't deserve the air the they breathe.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:40 pm

well it at least freed us up to take india instead


Thank you for this post to prove to everyone you're just a troll. Now everyone can get back on topic.

Anyways, I think people who were rich enough 40 years ago to build their own island but haven't done anything for the Ark since then shouldn't get the most resources. It the reason so many people were on the Ark wasn't because of a [censored] extinction event I would think differently.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:03 am

The refugees are only doing this work because they have to. The Ark was doing fine before everyone hopped aboard. The refugees have to do their part to account for one extra person basically. Do they diserve more rations? That depends, do the Security really have that much more water then they claim? Mabye. My point is, until everyone just stops and works together, no one is getting what they want.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:15 pm

Do they diserve more rations? That depends, do the Security really have that much more water then they claim?

So they have enough for them to get more, but not everyone?....Why don't they just take the same amount they give the Resistance if they are so worried about the scarce resources. This is what I don't get about the people who support Security - They act like "yeah, Resistance get what they deserved," and then they justify ridiculous reasons why Security needs more resources than the refugee's. Then when it get's mentioned that the refugee's are doing all the labor and keeping the Ark functioning, you're like, "well, they shouldn't be here in the first place."

You guys are treating the Ark like it's a country, or like The Founders/Security own it. The Ark is a facility - The Security working there is the same as a guy getting up for work to be the Security Guard at Walmart, except the living quarters are at the job site. Security doesn't own anything, this isn't their home or their native country, and they deserve no more than anyone else. It's like hoarding up at the mall during the zombie invasion, and being reluctant to let survivors in - who are you to decide? And stop treating it like the refugee's "spoiled the party." Where do you expect people to go after and ELE (Extinction Level Event)? It's not like there's all these other places they could go to, or they just want in for the hell of it. I know times were great before mankind practically got wiped out, but the refugee's probably planned that.....Stop it with the, "not in my backyard" mindset, and perhaps think of an actual good argument.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:52 am

Yes....the refugees get the easy jobs... :facepalm:

Really? The refugees got all the HARD jobs. They keep the Ark floating, without them everything would have fallen apart.


Only because the refugees rapidly depleted the Ark's resources.

So they have enough for them to get more, but not everyone?....Why don't they just take the same amount they give the Resistance if they are so worried about the scarce resources. This is what I don't get about the people who support Security - They act like "yeah, Resistance get what they deserved," and then they justify ridiculous reasons why Security needs more resources than the refugee's. Then when it get's mentioned that the refugee's are doing all the labor and keeping the Ark functioning, you're like, "well, they shouldn't be here in the first place."

You guys are treating the Ark like it's a country, or like The Founders/Security own it. The Ark is a facility - The Security working there is the same as a guy getting up for work to be the Security Guard at Walmart, except the living quarters are at the job site. Security doesn't own anything, this isn't their home or their native country, and they deserve no more than anyone else. And stop treating it like the refugee's "spoiled the party." Where do you expect people to go after and ELE (Extinction Level Event)? It's not like there's all these other places they could go to, or they just want in for the hell of it. Stop it with the, "not in my backyard" mindset, and perhaps think of an actual good argument.


Yet the reason that all the extra work is needed is due to the refugees. If it any broke don't fix it. Also by your logic the the Resistance thinks that if anything bad happens to the Security its them getting what they deserve just for doing their job. Touching.

Well in a sense the Ark is a country. The Founders protected by the Security designed (probably hired cheap labor to build), built, and maintained the Ark. Think of them like the Founding Fathers of the Ark. The Security and Founders could have not opened the Ark to the refugees. Its an ELE and why let them aboard and waste the already limited resources? Maybe because they were good people? Just maybe.

For the record I am not racist and this is an anology. Anyhoo think of the as the Security and Founders as America citizens and the Resistance as illegal immigrants. They come our country do jobs no one wants to do and aren't equal to actual citizens.

I am ultimately curious on how SD will spin this on both sides. I like the idea of some third group manipulating things but that is probably not the case.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:09 am

Yet the reason that all the extra work is needed is due to the refugees. If it any broke don't fix it.

yeah, because before the flood's, the Ark needed absolutely zero maintenance? You guys just keep puttin the blame on them, like they had a choice. It would be like when Katrina hit and destroyed all those homes and they used the Stadium for shelter, and then making them clean and maintain the shelter, and then giving more supplies to the people who are helping/running it rather than the survivors.

Also by your logic the the Resistance thinks that if anything bad happens to the Security its them getting what they deserve just for doing their job. Touching.

The only reason they have a "get what they deserve" mentality is because of the years of unfair treatment and distribution of resources. If things were fair from the start, or if they decided to give them equality, everything would be cool. It's all cause and effect - The Security brought it on themselves.

Yet the reason that all the extra work is needed is due to the refugees. If it any broke don't fix it.

You guys just aren't getting the point....

If they went on the Ark "just because," that is one thing, when they are on the Ark because the entire planet flooded, that's quite another. if they had somewhere else to go, they would - they are trying to leave the Ark. How can you hold them responsible and make them have to "earn their upkeep?" If everyone was pitching in equally, that's different, but making the refugee's pick up all the slack like it's their fault, and then giving them less resources, that's BS. You guys seem to be using the Ark like some type of ultimatum - you can stay here and do all the work and deal with what we give you, or you can swim with the fishes. Like an evil tyrant that kidnaps a man's family, and forces him to steal and kill for him or he never see's his family again.

For the record I am not racist and this is an anology. Anyhoo think of the as the Security and Founders as America citizens and the Resistance as illegal immigrants. They come our country do jobs no one wants to do and aren't equal to actual citizens.

This is exactly how a lot of you are looking at it, and its nothing like this, not even a little. The Ark has no established government, it's not a country. If it is truly "self sufficient" it probably doesn't even operate with a monetary system, since everything would be readily available. In other words, there would be no reason to "earn a living" on The Ark. Any work done would be to better society as a whole, not for one's own survival, meaning EVERYONE should be chipping in. Enough of this "we were here first" BS. Maybe calling them "The Founders" is throwing you off - They didn't "find" or discover anything. The Ark is a project, like an amusemant park or a hotel. It involves blueprints and planning and supplies, all of which came from countries all over the World and took hundreds and hundreds of man hours - Its not like everything was privately funded by the Founder's themselves. It may have been their vision, but it's not theirs - They don't own it.
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