So what your saying is the side which has more people on is the more righter side because more people agree with it.

No, I'm not saying that at all...where do I even imply that?

Reality is just the delusion of the majority. No, I'm not quoting anyone (that I know of). "Nothing is good or bad, but thinking makes it so." That one is a quote, but I can't remember who said it.

I side with security, if the resistance wants to go home they should, instead of trying to take over the ark, the security are just defending their home imo so yep the resistance are just terrorists who want to get the others to be like them through force, the security just wants to keep things the way they are, so I look foreward to crushing the resistance.
As for equality, they are refugees and the old saying goes "beggers cant be choosers." they have no right to make demands of others who let them into the ark.

Well it's worse then that. They may be the only humans left. And with only enough supplies to support 5000 people they have to ration it amoung 40,000 to 50,000. There is no home to go to, let alone anywhere to go to.It was all taken under the sea. So to say they should go home would be to say they should jump and swim for it. Now i can side with thier ideal to try and contact outside, but with a limited power supply it could be that the founders want to use it more of keeping people alive then to die trying.

so resistance guns wont have recoil. awesomesauce

You mistake my meaning, it has the resources to support 5000 people. Now with the influx from refugees the population has gone through the roof. Everything is limited. The founders as far as we are told have spent the last 20 years trying to accomodate the refugees and they never had the resources to begin with. Oh and I a basing in from the site and what I have hear in interviews.

As for contact with the outside world there has been none in the last 20 years and its a waste of the limited resources.



Don't get me wrong I don't support the Security any more than I do the Resistance. I am neutral this regard. As in regards to giving the Resistance less, well that is bound to happen. The Resistance is bound to get angry after all this game needs to have conflict or we wouldn't have a game.

The game will explain everything and we can only speculate from the limited info we are given.

Thats the problem with communists. Everyone gets the same, where is the incentive?

On a final note survival > equality, and mostly since I am neutral I am playing the devils advocate.

That mentality really only works because you are used to getting more. If resources were always distributed equally among societies, Communism and Socialism wouldn't seem so "bad." Look at Hunter Gatherer societies - No Government, no classes, just a community where every one is equal, decisions are arrived at by the tribe not made, and if anyone actually tries to call themselves boss or start to act as an "Alpha Dog," the tribe forces them out.


If Resistance can survive with less, why can't Security? If rationing resources is needed for survival, then would be rationed among EVERYONE. The Security just seem reluctant to give up the lifestyle they have grown accustomed to.

Ah true but untrue. However if tribalism is so great why did society change? Also communism might also work if any of the real world attempts followed the plan and stopped changing it as they go along. Should a doctor get the same pay as say a construction worker? Both contribute to society so they deserve the same treatment.

If you were in the Security shoes would you feel the same? Maybe they are hoarding a bit more water to themselves and maybe it is Resistance lies (or SD's).

Either way both sides view the other as the villian and maybe both are right, or wrong. Maybe a third party pulling strings? SD knows (we hope) and it is likely that campaign will ultimately prove each side correct. After all everything is but a certain point of view.

Question! Did security start getting more rations before or after the conflicts? It might be a way to get the neutrals on their side. Don't fight and get more water.

What would be a real shocker(and would likely piss of a few players while most others say "bravo") is if two(or a few more) are really treating this as a "friendly" game of chess...influencing each side to do this or that....at the end of the day when there are bodies from the resistance and security bleeding out the last of their blood these two "adversaries" will simply call the other and say "good show" and the security and resistance none the wiser


have any of you even thought about the fact that, even tho humanity is possibly on its last legs, there are simply a few horribly corrupt people playing both sides for their own enjoyment?...and this affects all of you "mercenaries" to...who do you think it was who decided hiring you, or if u had been hired already...fired.


as to the "anonymous shot fired, enraging both sides"...lets look at the details

where is this protest likely to have taken place?...possibly...no, most likely on the "door step" of the tower were security is strongest.

Why is security there?...simply to make sure things dont get out of hand

why is the angry party(likely at this time to yet become a rebellion faction)...simply to make their pleas heard

why would anyone from either side fire a gun? if u think about it "in time" with my theory of this whole thing being a "game of chess" there was likely an agent who made the shot which sparked the war

so in all...the goals of the resistance make them liberators, the actions of said group make them terrorist
The security started out only trying to keep things in check and are now doing what they can to stop what is happening
but what neither side can even speculate at because of the reality of he situation is how unreal the whole thing can be...and that is that they are all being played

yes my theory is full of holes...but who's isn't?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

yeah...that pretty much explains exactly what i was thinking, thank you Skynet

My original post was supposed to be like Security propoganda. I am siding with the Security, but for what I belive is good reasons. I do believe that if the Resistance's argument could've been made peacfully, which makes this seem so odd. Regardless of what I may think, this entire situation seems sketchy. Due to the lack of legit evidence, IslandJuggalo's idea of a concpiracy may not be far off. Until the situation actually becomes more than 85% clear, I'm going to stick with the Security to protect and preserve, nothing more. :mohawk:

The why are on 5th resistance?

I see the resistance as a normal freedom organisation properly there are some bad guys that only want to see blood but my favourite typ would be a adrenalin junky who only fights to get action and fun, not bad but a jocker^^

I dont view the Resistance as terrorists or liberators in any cicumstances,
I beleive the Resistance is fighting and standing up for the human being. The ideals that one holds over life and the power to create is being contanied and as a effect it is killing the possiblilty of the human race. Thus morals have been removed, becuase to search for the greatest good sometimes Morals must be removed as they harm the situation.

As a result the Security must be removed to progress further and to continue a search for the rest, or the death of humanity.

Thats my view.

Over anolyzing anything often isn't a good thing. At the moment, the developers seem to have geared the game towards an "either side may be right" scenario. I doubt any conspiracies will turn out to have taken place, simply because of the plot's (presumably) simplistic nature.

Sigh conspiracy theorists, next thing we are going to hear is that the Security caused the flood.

So the Resistance is simply going to kill everyone on the Security side, then what?

Its not a theory of consipiracy lol.

the resistance want to make contact with possible out-side people.
Security dont,

then smash way into security and try and use thier resources as yours svcks, to try and make contact.

Thats pretty much the idea. I think you read my post wrong.

No, he read YOU wrong!

I see my sarcasm was missed. Anyway don't enough resources to go around and you want to waste them on contacting the rest of the world that hasn't been heard from in 20 years? Not exactly the best idea. Go build a raft and go we won't stop you.

How does the resitance get all the supplys and wepaoms amd other stuff i mean
-Stealing it from the securety and other places
-Sefl-Made like the most armor pieces
But what is with the food and drink basic things that are realy rare in the arc and only stealing from securety is not effectif because you must hold your soldiers ( rebells ) on life and there families the stolen suplies are not enough so who supports them to.
its a good point i think

What we are and what we are called may not be the same thing. We are not truly liberators, except that we free up rations for equal distribution. We are not truly terrorist, except that we are the opposing faction in a civil war. What we are and what you call us are most certainly not the same. For what it's worth, you are not exactly what we think you are either.

yes over anolyzing isnt often a good thing, but only looking at what it is on the surface isnt to smart either