The South and the North : Othor Games

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:22 am

Double post.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:42 pm

In New York, it is common for people to call each other "sir" and "mam". It was probably just the waitress.

On another note, is Virginia usually considered to be northern? I always thought of it as being southern.

That depends on what part of Virginia your in. If your in the south-western area, your in The South. Richmond and up? Yankees. (no offence intended

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And Turns-The-Page, what in the hell is a coffee bar? Is it like, a diner? I've also never met anybody name Quentin in my entire life...all of which has been spent in The South.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:29 am

The North is a very different place. I personally love it, despite me being trapped in this hickory icked south. (Get it? HICKory? x3)

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:07 am

I care nothing for the North or the South. The South is hickory icked and slow moving. The North is overly ambitious and tries too hard. The East, no one really cares for. It's all about the West! It's Social Hour there every hour of the day. Fashion, technology, music, trends, everything is there! It's Pop Culture mania there, I love it!

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:59 pm

That depends on what part of Virginia your in. If your in the south-western area, your in The South. Richmond and up? Yankees. (no offence intended

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And Turns-The-Page, what in the hell is a coffee bar? Is it like, a diner? I've also never met anybody name Quentin in my entire life...all of which has been spent in The South.

I'm with you here. No clue what a coffee bar is. And Cletus and Jasper would be more stereotypical names.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:16 am

I'm with you here. No clue what a coffee bar is. And Cletus and Jasper would be more stereotypical names.

I think he's talking about southerners in the UK. :whisper:

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:28 am

It's not a Coffee Bar.. it's a Coffee Shop.

See what I mean by hickory icked?! Do you know what a Starbucks is? What about a venti? Mocha Chai? GOSH.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:21 am

It's not a Coffee Bar.. it's a Coffee Shop.

See what I mean by hickory icked?! Do you know what a Starbucks is? What about a venti? Mocha Chai? GOSH.

I usually do without the cute names for my coffee. I just ask for mine black with a teaspoon of sugar.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:59 am

Also, I noticed that college football isn't near as big of a deal as it is in the South.

Except Alabama were fighting is common between Alabama and auburn fans.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:04 pm

I know there are some women out there who object to Madam due to its... err... Career implications.

Being a lady/woman of rank, you mean?

I usually do without the cute names for my coffee. I just ask for mine black with a teaspoon of sugar.

Now that's insulting!

Coffee points if you understand :shifty:.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:13 am

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» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:29 am

I usually do without the cute names for my coffee. I just ask for mine black with a teaspoon of sugar.

They're not cute names. There's a difference between Black Coffee and a Mocha, or an Espresso. Different types of coffee. I personally like a Tall Decaf Java Chip Frappuccino with caramel syrup instead of chocolate.

That, versus simple black coffee? Beats it out any day..

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:02 pm

They're not cute names. There's a difference between Black Coffee and a Mocha, or an Espresso. Different types of coffee. I personally like a Tall Decaf Java Chip Frappuccino with caramel syrup instead of chocolate.

"Affagato using a ristretto shot" sounds slightly pretentious, but translates to "shot of espresso with a scoop of icecream, done is a particular way which makes the coffee's flavour stronger" (simplified, but still about right).

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:03 pm

I like the one they put the chocolate syrup in or just straight up black.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:08 am

Im from Nebraska (the northern south), but now I live in Michigan (greatest place on earth).

Some ladies think if you call them ma'am it implies that they are old. Football is huge up here, Chicago, MSU, MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN, NEB, OHIO STATE, green bay, and the lions.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:51 am

"Affagato using a ristretto shot" sounds slightly pretentious, but translates to "shot of espresso with a scoop of icecream, done is a particular way which makes the coffee's flavour stronger" (simplified, but still about right).

People like to feel fancy sometimes, what can I say?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:12 pm

If anything I see Ma'am / Sir as a sign of respect no matter who it is.
I can't even think why someone would take offense to it, maybe she was on her bad week and you were in the the wrong place at the wrong time :shrug:

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:36 pm

Your waitress needs another job - preferably one with no public contact. I doubt very seriously its a Virginia or North/South/Whatever thing.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:18 pm

Okay, so just recently I went to Virginia to visit a friend. I only stayed for a two days. When I was there, me, my friend and his wife were at a local restaurant, and when the waitress asked for my confirmation on my order, I replied "Yesmaam". She snapped at me, making a scene in the restaurant, ranting about how I don't need to be giving her any smart-ass remarks, and she doesn't appreciate the attitude. I kind of snapped back, but cooled off quick. My friend then tells me that people find that being called "maam" or "sir" is disrespectful. Why is this?

Also, I noticed that college football isn't near as big of a deal as it is in the South.

Just weird how different the two societies are. The town I was in, all the kids looked very hipster-like and almost stuck in the 70's.

Anyways, just an odd experience. Wanted to know why calling someone "sir" or "maam" is so bad, it is taught as common courtesy in the South.

I would have calmly - with a nice little smile on my face - asked for a different waitress. One who knew the difference between a well mannered reply and a sarcastic remark.

Btw, just a funny thing that happened on the subject: I went out to dinner in MI many years ago and asked what kind of cokes they had... the waitress looked at me like I had two heads. She said they only had one kind of coke but a few choices of "pop". :facepalm: I just shook my head and asked for a sprite.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:35 am

Depending on who says it and the way they said "sir" or "ma'am", some in the south might take exception as a reference (especially in a mocking way) to slavery and the Jim Crow era, the same if you walked up to a black kid and called him "boy", depending who said it and the way it was said.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:20 pm

Northerners do not use titles of respect because they don't want the other person to feel more special than they feel. That, and using titles of any kind could imply that you mean something and the politically correct code clearly dictates that you cannot ever imply anything. Ever. At all.

FYI - Born and raised on America's northern coast (Great Lakes region)

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:04 am

Use of Siir or Ma'am was instilled in us as children, and we were originally northerners. Some women take offense to ma'am because it is a shortened version of Madam. which has [censored]house connotations.
I taught my children to say "Yes, Mr/Ms "insert surname" or in situations where name was not known, "Yes, please".

It annoys me to no end that so many southerners refer to soda or pop as coke, regardless of brand or flavor.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:29 am

It annoys me to no end that so many southerners refer to soda or pop as coke, regardless of brand or flavor.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:59 am

It annoys me to no end that so many southerners refer to soda or pop as coke, regardless of brand or flavor.

I do that unless I know what brands there are and I want something specific, then I'll say sprite or pepsi, or whatever. Soda and pop annoy me.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:40 pm

I hate the word "pop". It just sounds dumb. Kind of like "snack".

Soda at least is somewhat accurate (soda water being one method of creating the "fizzy" (another word I hate)).

Of course, I don't drink the stuff so I rarely have occasion to talk about it.