So I think I'm done playing this game

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:28 pm

I loved Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I liked Skyrim at first but now at about 50 hours in I just don't even want to play it any more. I've conquered Alduin, saved the world and almost single handedly won the civil war for the Imperials. I still get treated like crap by almost every NPC. So then I try to kill them, but half the named people in the game are unkillable. I instead retreat to my house in Solitude. None of my mannequins work, half my weapon racks don't work. My wife charges me money to get some items from her, so I punch her one time. I yield but she refuses to accept so I kill her. I am the ARCH MAGE OF THE COLLEGE but I am expelled for killing her like I am just an apprentice. Also kind of crazy that they even knew I killed her since I did it in my own house which is on the other side of Skyrim from the college.

Walk outside and guards tell me I fetch mead for the companions even though I'm the damn boss. Some thug wants me to help him steal money, and I can't refuse. I am forced by the game to be a common criminal or have a quest stuck in my log forever. Go out into the wild and single handedly take down an Ancient Dragon, and a thief who witnessed the entire event walks up right after and demands my money as if I'm some kind of pushover.

Yeah, gonna trade this in tomorrow and problably get New Vegas again. Definitely not even close to as immersive as Oblivion was.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:28 am

I admit the things you listed are problems within the game that shouldn't exist and do detract from the game. However there is so much more to the game that is also good.

Also why do people feel the need to make an account just to tell everyone they have finished with the game?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:01 am

I admit the things you listed are problems within the game that shouldn't exist and do detract from the game. However there is so much more to the game that is also good.

Also why do people feel the need to make an account just to tell everyone they have finished with the game?

I want Bethesda to read this post, and see what is frustrating me and possibly other players. That way they can learn not to do this in future games. If everyone just says the game is great then Bethesda will think there is nothing wrong and keep doing the same thing over and over. It's the same reason you complain at a restaurant if the food was bad. How is the chef supposed to know he is cooking bad if nobody makes him aware?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:12 am

While those are legitimate complaints, the game is so much more than that. I find it hard to believe you'd want to trade the game in for a few NPC quirks. Seems to me you're just seeking attention.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:24 pm

I felt the same way. I wouldn't stop playing just yet. The Thieves guild quest line gets interesting for a spell. I did enjoy the Dark Brotherhood line as well. I have not even played the MQ and have forgotten which quests actually move toward saving the world from Dragons. Skyrim is helping me pass the time until Hitman Absolution comes out anyway...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:31 pm

While those are legitimate complaints, the game is so much more than that. I find it hard to believe you'd want to trade the game in for a few NPC quirks. Seems to me you're just seeking attention.

Not at all, they aren't just quirks to me. They are the things that I love most about games like these. I want to feel like I accomplished things when I complete quests. I want the NPCs to recognize my character. I play this game for immersion and everything I listed just crushes the immersion. This is not to mention that there isn't a single quest in this game that I have played that really made me go "wow". In every other Bethesda game I've played, atleast a few quests were just so damn good I wanted to play them over and over. And while there are great things about this game those gripes just take away from those things.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:12 pm



I want Bethesda to read this post, and see what is frustrating me and possibly other players. That way they can learn not to do this in future games. If everyone just says the game is great then Bethesda will think there is nothing wrong and keep doing the same thing over and over. It's the same reason you complain at a restaurant if the food was bad. How is the chef supposed to know he is cooking bad if nobody makes him aware?
then why not add your complaint to one of the many threads with the same heading as yours so that they are all together and by doing this it would make more of an impact rather than your thread getting lost in the many previously posted threads.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:30 am

Hehe... I'm almost 300 hours in and I have not even started Diplomatic Immunity yet.

Some people just play this game way too fast, imo.

I agree about the lack of responses to your deeds, though, but I'm afraid that Bethesda just don't know how to make it any better.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:04 pm

It's the same reason you complain at a restaurant if the food was bad. How is the chef supposed to know he is cooking bad if nobody makes him aware?

I don't walk in the back of a restaurant's kitchen just to berate the terrible chef. Instead, I simply pay for my bill and never return.

If you don't like the game, you don't like the game. But thinking Bethesda is going to stop what their doing just to read your "goodbye" thread is naive. Display your lack of approval with your wallet and not your fingers next time.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:05 pm

then why not add your complaint to one of the many threads with the same heading as yours so that they are all together and by doing this it would make more of an impact rather than your thread getting lost in the many previously posted threads.

I was unaware that there were many threads like mine, although that only furthers my point if that is true. Clearly I'm not the only one that is upset about the quality of the game then.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:27 am

I don't walk in the back of a restaurant's kitchen just to berate the terrible chef. Instead, I simply pay for my bill and never return.

If you don't like the game, you don't like the game. But thinking Bethesda is going to stop what their doing just to read your "goodbye" thread is naive. Display your lack of approval with your wallet and not your fingers next time.


Specially if said restaurant is contantly full of clients and earning awards left and right.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:06 pm

Hmm.

If you have legitimate complaints (which I notice at least 2 of the 3 'Go Away and Don't Bother Us With Facts' admit =are= legitimate) and don't pass those back to the service provider, then said provider has no way of knowing that they have issues. Or outright blew it. And actually, the ones who bother to make said accounts and give specific instances of design issues are more likely to be heard and remembered. The OP gives specifics; this isn't a 'Bethesda suxxor roxxor haxxooooor!!' Post. It is a ' I have had this and this and this occur. WHY?' kind of post. It was these same kinds of posts that led to the minigames of smithing, logging, hunting, etc (don't believe? Go see what is there in the Oblivion and Morrowind boards on those topics).
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:39 pm

Specially if said restaurant is contantly full of clients and earning awards left and right.

There a lot of popular restaurants out there. I hate McDonald's, but it's a top seller! :biggrin:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:18 am

I don't walk in the back of a restaurant's kitchen just to berate the terrible chef. Instead, I simply pay for my bill and never return.

If you don't like the game, you don't like the game. But thinking Bethesda is going to stop what their doing just to read your "goodbye" thread is naive. Display your lack of approval with your wallet and not your fingers next time.

Well, look at it this way. Lets say this chef was a hard working and genuine caring about his career kind of guy. He has this recipe that he thinks is good, but most people think it's terrible. They all pay and act happy, but never return. The chefs restaurant goes out of business. If a few people would make the chef aware that his recipe is no good, then he will change it and people will come back to his restaurant.

Now I know this is an extreme example, and I know that I can't influence an entire company by one topic. But I don't want to stop giving bethesda my 60 bucks for a good game. I want to give them my money and play there games, but if they release another game with the same quality as Skyrim, I won't buy it. If there is a slight chance that someone from Bethesda reads this, and somehow with a .0001% chance they fix these issues, then my time wasn't wasted.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:33 pm

Why would we care if you are done?

If you want to make consructive critisim for Bethesda how about you use an appropriate title for your thread?

Also I doubt you can return the game, so good luck with that.

EDIT: also how did you complete all the questlines in 50 hours, you must have ignored pretty much everything and focused only on specific quests which indicates you have used a guide to play by - that's a sure way to not get immersed if there is one.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:30 am

I still get treated like crap by almost every NPC. So then I try to kill them, but half the named people in the game are unkillable. I instead retreat to my house in Solitude. None of my mannequins work, half my weapon racks don't work. My wife charges me money to get some items from her, so I punch her one time. I yield but she refuses to accept so I kill her.

Some thug wants me to help him steal money, and I can't refuse. I am forced by the game to be a common criminal.

You complain about being forced to steal and become a common criminal but you have no problem murdering half the people, including your wife. Please.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:42 pm

Not at all, they aren't just quirks to me. They are the things that I love most about games like these. I want to feel like I accomplished things when I complete quests. I want the NPCs to recognize my character. I play this game for immersion and everything I listed just crushes the immersion. This is not to mention that there isn't a single quest in this game that I have played that really made me go "wow". In every other Bethesda game I've played, atleast a few quests were just so damn good I wanted to play them over and over. And while there are great things about this game those gripes just take away from those things.
Well I dont want them to call me 10 th divine so I am ok with them saying pss I know who you are, Hail Sithis. Or Dragonborn or Harbinger...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:47 am

Nobody cares. Bethesda already has your money.

They won't have my DLC money. Which I might add I bought EVERY dlc for Oblivion and Fallout 3.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:18 pm

Good for you.

Personally, I'm waiting for DLC and the Creation Kit.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:07 pm

Well, look at it this way. Lets say this chef was a hard working and genuine caring about his career kind of guy. He has this recipe that he thinks is good, but most people think it's terrible. They all pay and act happy, but never return. The chefs restaurant goes out of business. If a few people would make the chef aware that his recipe is no good, then he will change it and people will come back to his restaurant.

Now I know this is an extreme example, and I know that I can't influence an entire company by one topic. But I don't want to stop giving bethesda my 60 bucks for a good game. I want to give them my money and play there games, but if they release another game with the same quality as Skyrim, I won't buy it. If there is a slight chance that someone from Bethesda reads this, and somehow with a .0001% chance they fix these issues, then my time wasn't wasted.

I think the fact Skyrim is getting consistently high ratings and has won multiple GOTY Awards means it isn't a recipe no one likes. It's more like a chef making a new dish that the vast majority of people like, and you taking it upon yourself to tell the chef that it isn't good and he needs to change it.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:06 pm

I loved Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I liked Skyrim at first but now at about 50 hours in I just don't even want to play it any more. I've conquered Alduin, saved the world and almost single handedly won the civil war for the Imperials. I still get treated like crap by almost every NPC. So then I try to kill them, but half the named people in the game are unkillable. I instead retreat to my house in Solitude. None of my mannequins work, half my weapon racks don't work. My wife charges me money to get some items from her, so I punch her one time. I yield but she refuses to accept so I kill her. I am the ARCH MAGE OF THE COLLEGE but I am expelled for killing her like I am just an apprentice. Also kind of crazy that they even knew I killed her since I did it in my own house which is on the other side of Skyrim from the college.

Walk outside and guards tell me I fetch mead for the companions even though I'm the damn boss. Some thug wants me to help him steal money, and I can't refuse. I am forced by the game to be a common criminal or have a quest stuck in my log forever. Go out into the wild and single handedly take down an Ancient Dragon, and a thief who witnessed the entire event walks up right after and demands my money as if I'm some kind of pushover.

Yeah, gonna trade this in tomorrow and problably get New Vegas again. Definitely not even close to as immersive as Oblivion was.

There is no such thing as a game that appeals to everybody, never has been, never will be.

Find something else to play.

Get over it and stop moaning.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:15 am

I want Bethesda to read this post, and see what is frustrating me and possibly other players. That way they can learn not to do this in future games. If everyone just says the game is great then Bethesda will think there is nothing wrong and keep doing the same thing over and over. It's the same reason you complain at a restaurant if the food was bad. How is the chef supposed to know he is cooking bad if nobody makes him aware?
You'd think (and hope) so.. but it seems that's not the case. I mean, most people wanted more armor slots and made that clear. Instead, we get even less (but apparently, we get more npcs this way). I can't think of other examples of this right now.. I'm just not sure the majority opinions on the forums matter too much.

And, yeah, OP, you're right.. All that stuff is true and svcks, but as others have said, Skyrim has more to offer (if you're willing to suspend some disbelief).

I also don't really understand when people announce that they're done playing a game. I think it's because they're upset that the game has run its course and they want to throw a little jab. Maybe?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:25 am

Do as you want, in the meantime I'll enjoy one of the best games ever. Having played 250 hours and still have lots of stuff to do is fun, you know?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:08 pm

I beg to differ. People that have no ability to roleplay whatsoever and that expects the game to spoonfeed them everything are the ones more annoyed by this "issue".

I'm having a good time roleplaying my thief/assasin with his own goals and motiviations and I have enough imagination to overlook the occasional flaw and fill the gaps wherever it's necessary.

Ummm, no.
By your own words in other posts, you are having a grand old time playing with the world in the space between your ears. You are doing 'lets pretend I have relevance in Skyrim'. That is not roleplaying in a CRPG; directed daydreaming is probably closer to an actual descriptor. I've never said I don't like the game. I also write and do CG as a hobby, so I think my imagination engine is still online. And like it or not, people have solid, serious points about the fact that with current technology, and the experience gamesas has with the genre and the amount of detail they have created for Tamriel, this should not be happening. You can imagine Sonic flying around the room and snatching rings out of the aether with nary a miss, but that has no effect whatsoever in the game itself; the little blue bugger hits a collision point that shouldn't be there, he go boom and lose all his rings. Being able to rationalize over small game glitches is good. Having to rationalize the fact that nothing you do matters a damn in the game world is the hallmark of someone having dropped the ball.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:35 pm

Congratulations -- You don't like the game and are trading it in. Nobody cares. You are just making this post to seem dramatic about you quitting Skyrim. Again, nobody gives a damn, and you shouldn't have wasted your time.

You want to make the post to tell Bethesda bout what you don't like about the game. Great, but after a dozen people post these SAME complaints, I think it is recognized as an issue almost 2 months into release. There is no need to come in here and complain about what has already been established as a problem. Maybe this stuff will be fixed, maybe not until TESVI, but regardless, you shouldn't mope about the game and make a dramatic exit. Try sticking in the forums and constructively critisizing.

P.S. When a game crashes every 10 minutes or so (New Vegas), that doesn't strike me as immersive
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