Action game cop out at its finest. GUTTED so much from Daggerfall and onward.

Go back to the drawing board next time and stop gutting features and dumbing down.

Very sad.

Aha ok.

Ok.

How original and new this thread is.

Complain somewhere else since these arguments have been done to death. IGN would probably be the place for you.

I usually do not like to be rude but these get old fast.

K, bye!

I to think I took your previous threads seriously. You are a troll, sir.

THIS IS NOT AN ACTION GAME!!!11!!!!

Sorry, the button got stuck, been eating to much candy and drinking to many Monsters next to the keyboard lately, but I digress. I believe this to be, not only an RPG, but an RPG with game mechanics that I believe will be copied soon.

Wow, the two posters above are obviously new comers to the series. I know how you feel man. Bethesda has begun to cater to the weak minded.

Obviously not a troll if this thread is so common, right? Other people feel the same.

I can raise skills, levels, and progress to higher tiers of weaponry to fight increasingly difficult enemies, while running quests for powerful loot and money, so I can improve my character to do more quests that hold more challenge. Depending on my playstyle, I can be a master swordsman or mage, given time. Likewise, the race I choose affects my abilities and stats. Furthermore, the quests that I mentioned generally send me into dungeons, fighting enemies in an individual cell filled with loot better than what's found outside.

This is an RPG, probably moreso than it's predecessors. Just because they removed a few features, and steamlined it, doesn't change the genre it obviously fits into. They also added MANY features that are staples of the RPG genre (more non-scaling loot, meaningful crafting, marriage, more followers, etc.)

Try harder next time. Or don't try at all. Either way works for me.

And Call of Duty is not a FPS.

What do you call a load of former TES fans in the basemant?

Thank you asulkan

It's sad what's happened to this series.

Every TES game turns less into an RPG than ever.

Of course, you're going to get this thread spammed with trolls telling you how "You play as another person so it's an RPG. just like Fable is an RPG. Halo is an RPG. COD is an RPG."
I tend to just ignore these people

Edit:

And wouldn't you know it, there already IS a troll in this thread:


Seriously, this is why I don't like the Oblivion community. And why I probably wont like the Skyrim community. Actually probably major factors into my disliking of those games, too, considering I love the modding community.

It's a thread from TESGOAT people... You are free to ignore him.

Just because it isn't "as complex" as Morrowind doesn't mean it isn't a RPG. TES still has a long way to not be a RPG. When we can't speak to no one, we are limited to just one character and our experience is undoubtedly linear... Then TES will not be a RPG anymore.

Yep. Everybody who doesn't agree with you over what an RPG is obviously either: A: Has no idea what they're talking about or B: Is "weak minded." That kind of rationalization is kind of pathetic.

Thanks Hircine! Good to see others feel the same.

The irony of asulkan assuming that everybody that disagrees with him is inexperienced, casual, or new is that I've been playing since Morrowind, and thought Oblivion was an improvement over MW, and Skyrim an improvement over OB.

And, not to mention, that most of the people that might actually agree with me are probably playing the game, or bailed on the forums when they saw it go down the tubes. I'm contemplating doing the same, but there are too many people that aren't total idiots, and I feel I need to combat the vocal minority that hates the game.

General statements over the opinions of a demographic aren't the right way to handle things, on any side of the debate. Likewise, saying something is something, when it isn't, and has in fact earned REWARDS for being the thing you say it isn't, is probably not the right way to handle things.

Copied by whom? Only Bethesda makes TES games.

It's wonderful to know how many people don't know what an RPG game is.

It seems that the OP is a little miffed that the game isn't a mind numbingly complex role playing game.

Compared to some action games I've seen lately Skyrim is definitely a mind numbing one.

It would be nice if there were more quests that didn't revolve around combat and the non combat choices didn't make your character a practice dummy, but that's where role playing games are right now.

Not an RPG eh? The fact that you can pretty much do the heck whatever you want right from the beginning isn't enough for you? Wow ADD is showing up in more kids these days.

Its not an RPG because I don't play it on a table top.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game

Ironically, my TV and XBOX are on a table.

It's an RPG.