Toggle needed for kill-cams : V - Skyrim

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:30 pm

I agree with you. But the "professional complainers" on this forum (this small forum) have pretty much beat, quartered, digested, [censored], beat that, quartered, digested, [censored], etc... that horse for so long that I hope Bethesda gives them their cake. Then we'll all bite our nails in anticipation for the next demand that spews forth from those who will never be pleased.

If it breaks the game for you, either find a workaround or quit playing it. I've been gaming since around 1983 or so (from Atari 2600, to Commodore 64, to NES, to...). That was the basic rule. I always came across a feature I was annoyed by, but if I wanted to keep playing the game because it was interesting based on its other merits, guess what I'd do? I'd continue playing it and ignore the annoying feature... and I'd have fun (imagine that)! I think gamers are spoiled now, especially the younger ones who haven't grown with the industry. It's like a teenager today would mock and complain about having to roll down a car window manually because they'd never seen a car that doesn't have electric windows.

"Especially the ones who haven't grown with the industry?" Perhaps you ought to check the ages of the ones you complain about before you make such sweeping statements. Most of the things I complain about have nothing to do with electric windows, but rather with windows no longer rolling down at all. Spellcrafting, seasons, quarterstaffs, attributes, reputation, first person horse riding, non-toggleble killcams. The only new thing I am asking for is for is a new thing I didn't want in the first place. I don't mind that killcams are in, I just want to be able to turn them off, no matter what platform I play the game on. Oh, and if you want to play the whose been playing the longest game--I started on a Pet in the seventies. I remember well why we used to find a workaround or quit playing it--no access to the internet, if it even existed then, no gaming forums. I have long been grateful to Bethesda for providing us with a forum to both complain and praise their work.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:57 pm

^ its a none argument. People who wish for a kill cam toggle are the clear majority. See below in the poll. Unfortunately its been locked due to all the 12 year old ritalin addicts who never knew games before KILL CAMZXORZ!!111

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:33 pm

We need a toggle especially if the killcams are going to be bugged/getting more of them. I didn't mind them for the melee stuff but I will with Bow and Destruction magic.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:11 pm

Stop. Stop right there. We have been over this 10,000,000,000 times already. Quit repeating that same old nonsense because you are wrong, wrong, wrong. The rest of your 3 posts above are wrong as well but all that stuff can just be dismissed. This "last enemy in the zone" crap needs to be called out every time, though.

Stop ? Nonsense ? Wrong ? We ? You have the right to use the "pluralis majestatis" like the pope to say those absurdities or you've got too much Skooma? :biggrin:

We are on a forum,everyone have the right to express his opinion - in a moderate way of course.

You're nice perhaps, but your way of express your opinions is childish and not moderate sadly -in my opinion of course :smile:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:54 pm

Kill cams are bugged and can kick in, even when there are still other opponents to fight.

That said, if someone is on a PC, just go to Skyrim Nexus and search for killcam. You'll find multiple mods to turn them off.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:27 pm

Kill cams have been bugged since day 1, they are also very SMACKDOWN vs. RAW annoying

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:56 am

Stop ? Nonsense ? Wrong ? We ? You have the right to use the "pluralis majestatis" like the pope to say those absurdities or you've got too much Skooma? :biggrin:

We are on a forum,everyone have the right to express his opinion - in a moderate way of course.

You're nice perhaps, but your way of express your opinions is childish and not moderate sadly -in my opinion of course :smile:

Yeah, cool. So I'm right, you are wrong. You didn't need a long post full of intellectual posturing and five-dollar words to express that.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:45 pm

Am I the only one who doesn't mind this feature? I mean, it comes up only occasionally, at last for 3 seconds

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:40 pm

Yeah, cool. So I'm right, you are wrong. You didn't need a long post full of intellectual posturing and five-dollar words to express that.

If you say so "mister".. :biggrin:

but sadly we have another useless post here - in my opinion of course.. :dry:

At the risk of repeat myself: its so difficult to make a constructive criticism avoiding the personal battles/attacks ?

i don't know..i'm feeling like an "alien" sometimes here... :blush:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:53 pm

Deleted..unintentionally double post.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:42 am

^ its a none argument. People who wish for a kill cam toggle are the clear majority. See below in the poll. Unfortunately its been locked due to all the 12 year old ritalin addicts who never knew games before KILL CAMZXORZ!!111

Look everyone, Toggles is back!

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:44 pm

I'm 33 years old, i don't use "retalin" and i like kill cams as well -well,at least partially..they don't disturb me so much at the current state... :biggrin:

so,where do we go from here ? :bunny:

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:23 am

I'm an immersion-junkie, but I've never really found kill-cams to interfere with my immersion (except when they used to flip between 1st and 3rd person, which they don't do anymore). Nonetheless I think they should be togglable, as anything can get old after a while. Still enjoying them myself, and not finding them to be buggy, either. Apart from receiving the odd 1-shot kill from a low-lvl mob. Hmm.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:16 pm

If you say so "mister".. :biggrin:

but sadly we have another useless post here - in my opinion of course.. :dry:

At the risk of repeat myself: its so difficult to make a constructive criticism avoiding the personal battles/attacks ?

i don't know..i'm feeling like an "alien" sometimes here... :blush:

It's not personal. I'm sure you are a great guy. I'm sure your mother/cat/wife whatever loves you... maybe you are very good at your job, maybe you give money to charity and send your grandmother flowers on her birthday. Kudos, brother. If all of that were true, it wouldn't make you any less wrong. Don't let it get you down, though. I'm sure you contribute to society in other ways even if your opinions on this forum are completely bat[censored].

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:52 pm

Look everyone, Toggles is back!

You should change your screen name to "The Proletarian" or better yet, "The Lowest Common Denominator".

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:38 pm

^ its a none argument. People who wish for a kill cam toggle are the clear majority. See below in the poll. Unfortunately its been locked due to all the 12 year old ritalin addicts who never knew games before KILL CAMZXORZ!!111

"12 year old ritalin addicts".... yeah, that's a good way to promote debate & keep threads from being locked.

For the record, I'm in my 40's. And have been playing RPGs & other digital games (along with hex-and-counter wargames, tabletop games, pnp RPGs, etc), since 1980. Yes, games aren't the same as they were back then. But that's fine - every medium evolves. It's interesting the way things have changed. Kill cams? Like 'em. Mostly I argue against toggles because of the self-righteousness of the people arguing for (loudly proclaiming opinions they like as "Truth", for instance). And the general concept of "people will keep asking for toggles for any feature they dislike. It'd be irrational to grant them all, so it's a bad precedent to give in on even a few."

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:56 pm

It's not personal. I'm sure you are a great guy. I'm sure your mother/cat/wife whatever loves you... maybe you are very good at your job, maybe you give money to charity and send your grandmother flowers on her birthday. Kudos, brother. If all of that were true, it wouldn't make you any less wrong. Don't let it get you down, though. I'm sure you contribute to society in other ways even if your opinions on this forum are completely bat[censored].

You can always add me as a "friend" my brother :biggrin:

and i really hope to be a "great guy" in real life like you've said ...but please, don't get angry so fast for such a little misunderstanding on a forum :smile:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:43 pm

You can always add me as a "friend" my brother :biggrin:

and i really hope to be a "great guy" in real life like you've said ...but please, don't get angry so fast for such a little misunderstanding on a forum :smile:

I'm glad we settled that, brother-friend. And rest assured: I was never angry. :wink:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:57 pm

Mostly I argue against toggles because of the self-righteousness of the people arguing for (loudly proclaiming opinions they like as "Truth", for instance). ...

That is such warped logic. So you oppose a toggle just out of spite?

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:58 pm

I'm glad we settled that, brother-friend. And rest assured: I was never angry.

Well,then we can drink a sleepin' tree sap together ..and even a Skooma if you like it of course ... :biggrin:

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:49 am

Am I the only one who doesn't mind this feature? I mean, it comes up only occasionally, at last for 3 seconds

I get the impression that there are a great many who like them and a great many who don't.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:16 pm

I've changed my mind, and have actually started to like the archery kill cams. Only one has bugged on me so far, and since i play a sneaky snipy character nothing kills me while it plays. May have to disable them again when i change characters, but for now i let them exist. And for the record, i'm 30 and don't have disorders. Sure i'm crazy, but don't have any disorders :tongue:

Still, no reason to not have a toggle. Would be a lot simpler than editing the ini file.

That is such warped logic. So you oppose a toggle just out of spite?

So what? I like the ME3 endings to piss off the "retake" people :teehee:

(But only on BSN

)

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:19 pm

You should change your screen name to "The Proletarian" or better yet, "The Lowest Common Denominator".

Uh... what do you think a Plebeian is? Sheesh. Not much up there, eh?

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:02 pm

It's time to stop posting.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:34 am

^ its a none argument. People who wish for a kill cam toggle are the clear majority. See below in the poll. Unfortunately its been locked due to all the 12 year old ritalin addicts who never knew games before KILL CAMZXORZ!!111

You really hurt yourself immensely with stuff like this. I see no probelm with your toggle but I really really like thekillcams so obviously I want to kepp them myself. We can have differnt opions on thia aand no one has to be insulting. . I'm 54 years old and have been playing video games since Pong and have run a pen and paper RPG HERO system camapign continuously since the 80s. I am not ADD, maybe alittle OCD but that's another story The OP poster managed to have his say and be civilized and not demeaning to those who like Killcams. You should follow his example.

Its really a pity you're not on PC where mods would may this a non issue for you.