Toggle needed for kill-cams : V - Skyrim

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:23 pm

A bit off-topic here, but i agree 3rd person cameras break imersion but whatabout first person? I think wouldn't break immersion at all.
Am i the only one who plays with this mindset; "I influence this character but i watch him like a movie" i always play most of my games like that, idk just helps me oversee the immersion breaking stuff.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:05 am

A bit off-topic here, but i agree 3rd person cameras break imersion but whatabout first person? I think wouldn't break immersion at all.
Am i the only one who plays with this mindset; "I influence this character but i watch him like a movie" i always play most of my games like that, idk just helps me oversee the immersion breaking stuff.

Yes this has been bought up many times. If you play in first person, finishers should be in first person.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:47 am

OK... I think it's really silly to attempt to defend oneself, but this is a case that may prove educational. The Latin root "plebius" means of the common people. Synonyms include: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baseborn, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/common, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humble, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inferior, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/low, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lowborn, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lower-class, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/low-life, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lowly, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lumpen, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mean, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plebeian, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prole, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proletarian, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unwashed, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vulgar. Antonyms include: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aristocratic, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blue-blooded, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genteel, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gentle, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grand, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/great, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/high, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/highborn, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/highbred, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lofty, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noble, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/partrician, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upper-class, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upper-crust, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wellborn. Seriously, dude.

And before you say "huh uh huh huh... I see ~~aristocratic~~ [no, nevermind, you probably don't know what that word means either] 'upper-crust' in that list of words"... please find out what an antonym is. It would also be beneficial to discover what a synonym is.

Wow, well done you can use the internet. How ingenious of you...

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:45 pm

Wow, well done you can use the internet. How ingenious of you...

Well, interestingly, I knew the definiton of word before having to look it up. I actually went to the internet to show you how you probably should have done that yourself before you commented. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:59 am

Kill cams are amazing. Stick to your vision Beth and don't add a toggle. This is your vision.

I love this guy.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:42 pm

Wow, well done you can use the internet. How ingenious of you... But no you are wrong. They are antonyms according to one source, but when you have studied the Romans, as I have, you will realise you are wrong and just clutching at straws. A plebeian, which you have aptly named yourself as, is not in the ancient Rome sense a 'low', 'baseborn', 'low life person'. They were landowners, which means they are MIDDLE class. Copying info from an online dictionary must have been so hard. You should be so proud of yourself. I love it when people like you try come across as clever on the internet. You just sound really pathetic and judgemental. Do you know anythng about me? That's right you don't. Perhaps you should stick to copying big words you don't know out of the dictionary.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:30 pm

Im not supporting you, Im saying. You're annoying everyone with your whining and ive already reporting two of your attempts to derail threads. Stop already.

LOL. Yeah, I know that you have an itchy trigger finger on the "Report" button. But it's nice to see you admit it. Anyway, it's interesting that you find those who have a differing opinion than yours as people who are attempting to "derail" threads. It is you that needs to stop, Toggles. Incessant whining gets really old really quickly.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:49 pm

Dude, the Latin root... that's all I have to say... and that's all I will say... get over it, buddy, you're wrong. LOL.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:04 am

Im not supporting you, Im saying. You're annoying everyone with your whining and ive already reporting two of your attempts to derail threads. Stop already.

Damn is he annoying. He just won't let it lie. He is just a very angry, spiteful person who feels he has to take it all out on people who don't agree with him. On a brighter note, the results of this poll are even more in favour of a toggle. There is still hope. :smile:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:07 pm

Damn is he annoying. He just won't let it lie. He is just a very angry, spiteful person who feels he has to take it all out on people who don't agree with him. On a brighter note, the results of this poll are even more in favour of a toggle. There is still hope. :smile:

yup. Its funny, there is clear support for a toggle. Even the ones who like kill cams still see the sense in having the option. I will not shut up about lack of kill cam toggle as long as Im a member of this forum.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:45 pm

I'm not in favor of a toggle. It's obviously not part of Beth's vision.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:28 pm

i demand a toggle to toggle the toggles

Only if i can toggle the toggle to toggle the toggles

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:03 pm

I haven't had any problem with them other than they get a bit repetitive if your concentrating on just one weapon. A toggle would be fine but I don't see how they break immersion of the game or anything.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:44 pm

disagree, i [censored] love killcams, it makes the monotone and boring combat alitle bit exiting

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:16 pm

I'm not in favor of a toggle. It's obviously not part of Beth's vision.

You have made your lack of a coherent opinion abundantly unclear, thank you.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:13 pm

I haven't had any problem with them other than they get a bit repetitive if your concentrating on just one weapon. A toggle would be fine but I don't see how they break immersion of the game or anything.

That is a problem.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:57 am

yup. Its funny, there is clear support for a toggle. Even the ones who like kill cams still see the sense in having the option. I will not shut up about lack of kill cam toggle as long as Im a member of this forum.

The funny thing is that he claims to hate these threads when they are all he spends his time posting on.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:59 am

Dude, the Latin root... that's all I have to say... and that's all I will say... get over it, buddy, you're wrong. LOL.

Nope you are wrong. plebus the root of the word may mean low, but a plebeian is not just low class.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:20 am

I repeat,i understand that they can be annoying for someone,but i don't think that this argument needs all this attention and surely there are more impelling necessity for the game than a trivial toggle for killcam in this moment.

But don't despair yet,perhaps Bethesda will include it in a future patch/Dlc - at least then we don't "risk" anymore to have thread like this,for god sakes :biggrin:

would a necessity like kinect be one of the more important things your thinking of? christ, unbelievable.

1.5
- 12/1000 bugs fixed
- more broken ugly killcams added to the broken ugly ones we already have

...and they couldn't change the variable of killcams to 0 through a checkbox? next will be 12 more bugs fixed and kinect support, but no one has time to make a new checkbox in the options menu...hmm.

maybe one of them could put in FIVE g0ddamn minutes of overtime if thier so busy with "important" stuff during office hours, and get this done. it took them five patchs to fix the broken perk in the block tree for christ sake...uugh done....for now.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:10 am

would a necessity like kinect be one of the more important things your thinking of? christ, unbelievable.

When i've said that ? :down:

kinect support for me its completely useless - if you ask me.

The "more important things" i was referring to are others.But this isn't the right place where speaking of them i think.

maybe one of them could put in FIVE g0ddamn minutes of overtime if thier so busy with "important" stuff during office hours, and get this done. it took them five patchs to fix the broken perk in the block tree for christ sake...uugh done....for now.

Perhaps they don't work only on Skyrim,perhaps they've more important things to do in their lives,perhaps they've other priorities that not necessaries are yours ...

:down:

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:11 am

gawd i still hate these stupid kill cams.

but why can't they at least reply with a 'wontfix' if they won't do it? then I would stop feeling compelled to (re)contribute the unsolicited opinion that kill cams do indeed svck ass.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:24 am

Damn is he annoying. He just won't let it lie. He is just a very angry, spiteful person who feels he has to take it all out on people who don't agree with him. On a brighter note, the results of this poll are even more in favour of a toggle. There is still hope. :smile:

LOL hope? dunno what universe you're living in but I'm pretty sure none of the besthesda devs even read this forum. And if polls were any indication of features being added than custom spell making and majority of the heavily requested stuff would have been in.

It's funny how killcams were apart of the game at launch and people didn't moan about them and now due to adding new cams for archery, melee and magic people are whining about it.

Alot of games end up repetitive, lets have a toggle to stop playing games. Sounds like that's a sure fix.

Sarcasm aside, i don't support toggle when there's far more important things that needs to be added considering the fact they didn't have toggle for the killcams that were there since November 11th, so adding one now is just ridiculous. And if they do make a toggle there will be something else people will whine about to make another toggle.

This idea is about ridiculous as the thread talking about limiting fast travel based off bed rest cause it ruins the immersion haha.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:30 pm

I agree with you. But the "professional complainers" on this forum (this small forum) have pretty much beat, quartered, digested, [censored], beat that, quartered, digested, [censored], etc... that horse for so long that I hope Bethesda gives them their cake. Then we'll all bite our nails in anticipation for the next demand that spews forth from those who will never be pleased.

If it breaks the game for you, either find a workaround or quit playing it. I've been gaming since around 1983 or so (from Atari 2600, to Commodore 64, to NES, to...). That was the basic rule. I always came across a feature I was annoyed by, but if I wanted to keep playing the game because it was interesting based on its other merits, guess what I'd do? I'd continue playing it and ignore the annoying feature... and I'd have fun (imagine that)! I think gamers are spoiled now, especially the younger ones who haven't grown with the industry. It's like a teenager today would mock and complain about having to roll down a car window manually because they'd never seen a car that doesn't have electric windows.

Smackdown vs Raw games have had the option to turn off the finisher replays since the PSOne era.

Hell I even think you could turn off the replays in the N64 THQ wrestling games if you wanted.

So wondering why a feature that has been around since the 90s isn't in a game that was released in 2011 isn't all that strange, especially a forced feature.

"You young whippersnappers don't know the good old days!"

Same of us do.

Some of us have also actually witnessed how gaming has improved. Asking for a toggle for a kill cam in a single player game is not far fetched in the least.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:54 pm

agreed. its cool the first few times but after awhile it gets annoying

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:33 pm

Why would anyone NOT want the extra option? I mean seriously? People who want them are not affected in any way whatsoever. But for those who don't want them (myself included), will now have the option to turn them off and have a better experience.

Sarcasm aside, i don't support toggle when there's far more important things that needs to be added considering the fact they didn't have toggle for the killcams that were there since November 11th, so adding one now is just ridiculous.

Yeah, like the far more important things they still haven't fixed since release. You don't need a toggle to get in the way of that. They didn't have kill cams for archery on November 11th, so why add them in now? Wouldn't that be ridiculous according to that logic? Just sayin'.