Have you ever noticed the following situation; The Argonians work hard at the Windhelm docks all day, don't cause any trouble but are forced into one house and aren't even allowed into the city. The Dunmer on the other hand, got the Snow Quarter as a gift in return for nothing but all they do all day is whine about how it's "not nice enough". What do you expect??? You're a refugee who up to then has been treating everybody like trash in your own country, but then expect these same people to give you the best houses in the city. It's already shameful that the Nords living there were probably evicted. If I was in charge of Windhelm at the time, I would've let Skyrim's climate and rough terrain waste them. Am I the only one who has noticed this BTW?

Did the argonians get their home turned into a barren wasteland? And also because the nords are distrusting of beast races and high king toryyg (sp?) game the dunmer the gray quarter as respect towards the prideful race that has fallen on hard times.

Its probably about money.
The Argonians by nature are nomadic as opposed to the Dunmer great houses who's people were city dwellers.
A nomadic lifestyle doesnt suit itself as well to the gathering of riches.
It is conceivable that at the time of the exodus from Vvardenfell some nobles were able to take their treasure with them, especially small yet valuable things like gems. Its possible that this hypothetical wealth was used to purchase land, or at least to make their hosts look more favourably on them, thus allowing the Dunmer to settle in Windhelm and on Solstheim.

The Argonians likely did not have this advantage.

bingo. the nords in windhelm let anyone in if they have money/friends (there is an altmer there, only reason she is better off than the dunmer or argonians is because she is a functioning member of society), the thing keeping the argonians out is the only racist person in windhelm is shorting their payments by 90% (they are only getting 1/10th the ammount of nords, arnt they? or was it 1/5th?)

Why do Nords have to respect Dunmer? and what are Dunmer proud of enslavement of others and sick necromantic rituals?

Rise agasnit the nords, and warm the climate of the barren wasteland of frost that is Skyrim.

SO KHAN HAS COMMANDED!

Took care of the bastard.

Does the great Khan have anything to say about the topic? I kid.

so did i, you never mess with the friends of an assassin

In short, nords don't respect dunmer, hence why they're in a slum. And also we refer to those enslavement/necromantic things as "culture.". Can't make money without Argonian slaves.

I just publicly humiliated him in the marketplace, beat the living c%$p out of him in front of his mourning wife, then proceeded to slap her and tell her I know who killed her worthless daughter but I'm not telling.
BTW, your signature is a great song!

A culture eh? I refer to that as "sick" and "it should be eradicated". The later part of your comment shows how Dunmer think about everyone else. Also, it's not a slum. A series of mansions when compared to the Argonian Assemblage.

all my sigs are great songs, but thanks anyway it is also perfect for how i got revenge "this is the end, we wont take anymore" and pretty much evey word is perfect, but that really stood out

Actually i see it being more along the lines of the Dunmer were offered homes in Skyrim under last king with them not having to have to pay taxes and having thier own laws and such but being the type of peopel they are got offened that the locals didnt respect thier ways from morrowind and got offened that the locals expected them to at least respect the ways things were done in Skyrim. Obvious the Dunmer never heard the saying "when in Rome, do as te romans do" AND with the dunmer offered that after morrowind kinda vanished under lava, the Argonians pretty much got ordered and brainwashed by the hist to kill every dunmer on site.

So i see it as them being seperated to avoid conflict.

Yes, but why not the other way around? The Argoinans are more deserving of the city. Also, the Hist didn't need to brainwash anyone. The Argonians hate Dunmer, and with good reason.

Id say its because the dunmer were there first seeing how morrowind got destroyed under lava a wayyyyys back and that they were alrdy there established for a while, before even Ulfric came along. I didnt mean the term "brainwashed", more along the lines that most of the population got called back and were trained under the hist to kill any dunmer on site no matter what the situation was. If i recall the whole hist thing happened not long before the storyline of Skyrim came out, problemly pretty fresh in every ones minds what had happen during that time, and seeing how Skyrims king pretty much gave them welcome, they problemly just go by that as unwritten king's law until a new king comes along and tells them different.

Well props to the Hist for that. I just wish I could've been there.

actually it was the thalmor (According to a book by an altmer refugee, although he might've just been paranoid about the thalmor, so this may or may not be true) that goaded the argonians into attacking


argonians are docile, if you have not noticed, so they would not normaly just start a war that was not needed to survive. the hist did not even call them back to get revenge on the dunmer, they did it so the argonians could evolve for the oblivion crisis

(sighhhh) I've noticed and this is their greatest failing as well as their greatest virtue. They would never even think of enslaving, killing or preforming dark arts on other races simply because they are considered "inferior".

Ah money is the root to all evil. Merari brings up a good point. The Dunmer might have brought some valuables with them and traded for their land in the Gray Quarter then the Snow Quarter.

The Argonians being treated in such a way is monstrous even on Vvardenfell island they was allowed in cities and some were wealthy. I wonder if the Argonians was treated badly before the Stormcloak regime.

what book was that by chance if u know on top of ur head?

Worth mentioning but the dunmer don't normally practice necromancy they abhor it, the extent they use it is the same as the nords protection of tombs and religious sites etc.

id take a guess itd be after the whole hist war thingie. And problemly what would make windhelm different than all the other cities where they dont have to seperate is that Windhelm to my knowledge is the only place that was freely given to the dunmer as home after the whole morrowind volcano thingie, so maybe since its the only official place that they can live without having to pay taxes or lipservice to the jarl, protection might come along with it and with the war going on, instead of wasting men on people who are not helping the cause, they take the shortest route and just keep them seperated.

Ahh my fellow debater from the "Which side is more beneficial for Morrowind" thread. It is good to see you here.

I read that they think it's perfectly normal to practice on "lesser" races. This includes all non-mer races as well as orcs.