[gandalf]

Welcome to where discussing Fallout:New Vegas Weapons, Weapon Modifications and Ammunition Types is a celebrated passtime. Join in the no-guilt discussion, gun nuts accepted with open arms.

To start things off, I bring to the table these points for discussion:

1. The http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FColt_Single_Action_Army&ei=9RR3TKm1A8L58Aagpf3PBw&usg=AFQjCNGwbX2ZR14Bx3JhA_MrgBPnpb-wOw, aka Peacemaker, The Gun That Won the West, Colt .45, Six-Shooter, etc. is confirmed to be in the game. I expect it to be chambered in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Magnum. There has been little comment on this so far. The http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCKQ4CPJSBM I saw showed what may have been the unique variant, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colt_Factory_engraved.JPG.

2. Josh "Elvis" Sawyer has confirmed that the hunting rifle is chambered in a much more appropriate round, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester. This also implies that the semi-automatic "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garand" style rifle might also be in this chambering. This development clouds the picture on which weapon is chambered in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-70 that he confirmed to me to be in the game. If the hunting rifle is not .45-70, and neither http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_1894 is .45-70, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_Research_BFR takes that rather large round?

3. Gameplay videos have shown the "9mm SMG" is confirmed to be in the game. Whether this is the proper name for the tentatively titled "Cyber-punk Cowboy SMG" or a different weapon altogether remains to be seen. Is it possible that Josh would chamber a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun-like SMG in 9mm? Unlikely I think. Could it be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5-like? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzi? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_40? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Submachine_guns

[Lyndsey Bird]

As long as they never, ever take out the 10mm SMG I'm fine. I just love the way it looks and it and the 10mm pistol should always be present as starter weapons. I don't really know anything about guns apart from "That's a magnum, that's a smg, etc." but I am very, very excited for the Colt Single Action Army. Should be perfect when I inevitably become a NCR ranger in one of my playthroughs.

[Nicola]

I think I know the gameplay vid you're talking about. I'm pretty sure that the revolver you saw was not the Colt Single Action Army. The shape was wrong. I'm kind of excited about the Hunting Rifle re-chambering, but I'm a little skeptical as to how available the .308 ammo is going to be. One of the things that made the Hunting Rifle, and especially 'Ol Painless so valuable in Fallout 3 was that there was always a plethora of ammo to be had. I'm glad the mods can make it even better, but I wouldn't get much use out of it if ammo is as rare as the regular Sniper Rifle ammo. As for the Thompson we, we can all hope that it will make it safely into the game.

[Love iz not]

The one that was in the Gameplay Video was kinda big to be a Colt Single Action but they never really outright say that a gun is what it is...

[Kim Bradley]

i really dont understand the love people have for revolvers

[Dezzeh]

i really dont understand the love people have for revolvers

The same reason people love Desert Eagles, 1911's, P90, Tommy Guns, and Lever Action Rifles.....Bad......Ass....

[Alexis Estrada]

i really dont understand the love people have for revolvers

If there's one thing people love as much as things that go boom, it's things that spin. Put them together and you get a revolver. Or one of those lame 4th of July pinwheels... That's not really the point though. Revolvers are iconic, plus they look better. They're also kind of better for chambering large rounds too. Don't tell me a scoped magnum isn't badass.

[GLOW...]

i really dont understand the love people have for revolvers

Go watch Dirty Harry. In fact, just go watch a bunch of Clint Eastwood movies and you'll learn a lot more about why people like certain things.

[Mylizards Dot com]

Go watch Dirty Harry. In fact, just go watch a bunch of Clint Eastwood movies and you'll learn a lot more about why people like certain things.

"Go Ahead....Make my day..."

[Zosia Cetnar]

i really dont understand the love people have for revolvers

In games: look cool, sound cool, tend to be more powerful than comparable semi-auto pistols.

In real-life: look cool, common models can handle very powerful rounds (e.g. .44 Magnum), are reliable and low-maintenance. Revolvers also use rimmed cartridges to headspace, which means that you can load shorter cartridges of the same diameter in the cylinder for targeting shooting. E.g. .357 Magnum and .38 Special can both be fired from a .357 Magnum revolver. .44 Magnum and .44 Special can both be fired from a .44 Magnum revolver.

[Charles Mckinna]

I think I know the gameplay vid you're talking about. I'm pretty sure that the revolver you saw was not the Colt Single Action Army. The shape was wrong. I'm kind of excited about the Hunting Rifle re-chambering, but I'm a little skeptical as to how available the .308 ammo is going to be. One of the things that made the Hunting Rifle, and especially 'Ol Painless so valuable in Fallout 3 was that there was always a plethora of ammo to be had. I'm glad the mods can make it even better, but I wouldn't get much use out of it if ammo is as rare as the regular Sniper Rifle ammo. As for the Thompson we, we can all hope that it will make it safely into the game.

Nate, I inserted link to the video. Lookd pretty much like the SAA. Even has the proper animations for single action and loading through the feed gate.

And good point about the ammo. If .308 is as scarce as it was in FO3, then the scoped hunting rifle just becomes a bolt-action sniper, nothing more. Un-scoped would be even less utile.

[Kortniie Dumont]

There already is a gun nut thread...

[Justin]

Revolvers are just pure badass. I never even used the hi-power pistol in Red Dead Redemption.

[Matt Bee]

Welcome to where discussing Fallout:New Vegas Weapons, Weapon Modifications and Ammunition Types is a celebrated passtime. Join in the no-guilt discussion, gun nuts accepted with open arms.

To start things off, I bring to the table these points for discussion:

1. The http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FColt_Single_Action_Army&ei=9RR3TKm1A8L58Aagpf3PBw&usg=AFQjCNGwbX2ZR14Bx3JhA_MrgBPnpb-wOw, aka Peacemaker, The Gun That Won the West, Colt .45, Six-Shooter, etc. is confirmed to be in the game. I expect it to be chambered in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Magnum. There has been little comment on this so far. The gameplay video I saw showed what may have been the unique variant, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colt_Factory_engraved.JPG.

2. Josh "Elvis" Sawyer has confirmed that the hunting rifle is chambered in a much more appropriate round, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester. This also implies that the semi-automatic "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garand" style rifle might also be in this chambering. This development clouds the picture on which weapon is chambered in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-70 that he confirmed to me to be in the game. If the hunting rifle is not .45-70, and neither http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_1894 is .45-70, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_Research_BFR takes that rather large round?

3. Gameplay videos have shown the "9mm SMG" is confirmed to be in the game. Whether this is the proper name for the tentatively titled "Cyber-punk Cowboy SMG" or a different weapon altogether remains to be seen. Is it possible that Josh would chamber a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun-like SMG in 9mm? Unlikely I think. Could it be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5-like? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzi? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_40? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Submachine_guns

in order

1) theres no real reason why it has to be chambered for .357,
its also posible that the graphics in that vid were missset or it may be a moded version,

2) just because a specific round is know to exist does not mean any guns capable of useing said round also exist. to be frank I can think of 3-4 other guns I would rather have than the Gerand, besides the gun your thinking of is the Winchester Model 1873 Short Rifle. the gun HES thinking of is the 308 Marlin but I think that gun would need to be rechambered to actualy take a 308 winchester.

[Gemma Flanagan]

There already is a gun nut thread...

Well this is a more organized thread.....

[Jason Rice]

Nate, I inserted link to the video. Lookd pretty much like the SAA. Even has the proper animations for single action and loading through the feed gate.

Ok first things first, The PROPER way to load that gun is to half-[censored] the gun, then if you want to load the gun safly (you will understand why in a second) load one round, skip a chamber, then load the rest of the chambers normaly, then Bring the gun to a full [censored] then gently lower the hammer, If you drop the hammer too quickly the gun will go off.

[Richard Dixon]

I would really love it if the 9mm SMG is actually a Sten, but I have my doubts. The 10mm was essentially an MP5, so I'm sure the 9mm SMG will be another compact SMG design. After all, why would the 9mm SMG be bigger and weigh more than the 10mm SMG?

The 9mm will probably be an Uzi. Fits the 50s mold (after all it was invented in 1948), and it's small. Though it could be a Walther MPK as well. At least those are my theories on what the 9mm SMG could be.

[Jenna Fields]

in order

1) theres no real reason why it has to be chambered for .357,
its also posible that the graphics in that vid were missset or it may be a moded version,


2) just because a specific round is know to exist does not mean any guns capable of useing said round also exist. to be frank I can think of 3-4 other guns I would rather have than the Gerand, besides the gun your thinking of is the Winchester Model 1873 Short Rifle. the gun HES thinking of is the 308 Marlin but I think that gun would need to be rechambered to actualy take a 308 winchester.

The vid is from Quakecon. How could the graphics be missset or it be a modded version? It's clearly FO:NV footage that clearly shows a close facsimile of a Colt SAA. As for the chambering, I feel Josh will try to keep with the old cowboy habit of chambering his rifles and handguns to the same round. We have .357 and .44 magnum lever-action rifles confirmed, and of the two, I believe he will go with the .357 since it is a chambering that was common to the SAA in real life. It's just a hunch. He may go with .44 and make it a high level gun.

Secondly, I'm not real sure what you mean in the second paragraph. Why would the developers put an ammo size in the game and then not have guns to shoot it? Your ambivilence to the Garand aside, I am not thinking of the 1873. That action could not handle a .45-70. I was wrong though. I meant the http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=024C&mid=534053. And I don't think anyone's talked about chambering a lever-action in .308.

[xemmybx]

2. Josh "Elvis" Sawyer has confirmed that the hunting rifle is chambered in a much more appropriate round, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester. This also implies that the semi-automatic "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garand" style rifle might also be in this chambering.

I'm more then sure that is what the M1 Garand will be chambered in after WWII the Navy created a M1 Garand that was chambered in the new round used by the military the 7.62mm which is for all intensive purposes a military grade version of a .308. :tops:

[BlackaneseB]

Anyone else sorta get the idea that they included the 1866 shotgun (I know thats not what you were talkin about .46) cause of the MW2 bandwagon? I've never thought of it as that cool of a weapon and would much rather have a 1897 Winchester pump-action, both would be better.

[Laura Ellaby]

Nate, I inserted link to the video. Lookd pretty much like the SAA. Even has the proper animations for single action and loading through the feed gate.

And good point about the ammo. If .308 is as scarce as it was in FO3, then the scoped hunting rifle just becomes a bolt-action sniper, nothing more. Un-scoped would be even less utile.

Sorry, I was thinking about a completely different video. I think that revolver might even actually be the regular version, with the unique one being the more intricately designed one you see A7 holding. That would be nice, since we would be able to apply mods to the gun in the video. Maybe that's the .357 and the bigger revolver that I was talking about was the .44. That or it just looks a whole lot different in your hands than on the ground. Hopefully that's not the case. If not, it's good to see this great variety in weaponry. Oh, and thank you for agreeing about the Hunting Rifle.

[carly mcdonough]

I'm more then sure that is what the M1 Garand will be chambered in after WWII the Navy created a M1 Garand that was chambered in the new round used by the military the 7.62mm which is for all intensive purposes a military grade version of a .308. :tops:

Well it is the 7.62x51(or .308 in civilian terms) right? Cause that's not a very common round as opposed to the 7.62x39. Just sayin never heard of an M1 rechambered in 7.62x51 before.

EDIT: Nevermind looked it up and you were right it was 7.62x51mm

[Angela]

Anyone else sorta get the idea that they included the 1866 shotgun (I know thats not what you were talkin about .46) cause of the MW2 bandwagon? I've never thought of it as that cool of a weapon and would much rather have a 1897 Winchester pump-action, both would be better.

I think it has more to do with the references to Terminator in the past games (Terminator 2 Judgement Day in particular with the kick ass lever-action shotgun) and the fact that the lever action shotgun is just pure win and is in no way related to COD:MW2 twelve year olds who probably won't be playing this game anyhow. :tops:

[Daniel Lozano]

Ok first things first, The PROPER way to load that gun is to half-[censored] the gun, then if you want to load the gun safly (you will understand why in a second) load one round, skip a chamber, then load the rest of the chambers normaly, then Bring the gun to a full [censored] then gently lower the hammer, If you drop the hammer too quickly the gun will go off.

I'm well aware of the safe loading practices of a single action revolver. Of course, you load all six when in combat, [censored] the hammer back the rest of the way and keep shooting. Leaving a chamber empty to "safe" the weapon is a non-combat technique. Really though, I was much more interested in that the animations actually had the PC manually cocking the hammer each shot and loading the revolver throught a loading gate on the right of the receiver frame. If the animation is not exactly perfect, at least there's one there at all.

[Arnold Wet]

Well it is the 7.62x51(or .308 in civilian terms) right? Cause that's not a very common round as opposed to the 7.62x39. Just sayin never heard of an M1 rechambered in 7.62x51 before.

The U.S. Navy rechambered the M1 Garand after NATO was formed and the 7.62x51mm was chosen as the standard round for the United States and her NATO allies, However it was quickly phased out because of the introduction of the M14 and the fact that the M1 Garand didn't take to kindly to the 7.62x51mm in the first place. (Since the 7.62x51mm is a shorter round then the 30.06 they had to add a piece of plastic to compensate for the size but there was so problems with it melting or breaking.) :tops: