Have you ever one shotted a mammoth with a bow?

Try doing that with a fireball.

Sometimes it's fun to be overpowered, sometimes balance and difficulty get in the way of just plain having a ball.

Again, you seem to think your opinion is fact.

I can 2 shot a mammoth on master with incinerate. I just gotta use my head. Like a mage should.

Can you do it without potions or enchants? Because my archer can one shot a mammoth on master difficulty without using either one.

Can you do it without potions or enchants? Because my archer can one shot a mammoth on master difficulty without using either one.

Just because you fail doesn't mean that others don't succeed.

I don't spamlock and I just recently started using a small (30-40%) spell reduction. I get by just fine by using potions, using Ice Form shout to freeze enemies while I regen, occasionally summoning a fire atronach to act as a living shield, and occasionally using archery to whittle down groups to sizes that my fireballs can handle. In short, I play the game.

This is not a contest. It doesn't matter if destruction doesn't do as much damage as Skill X. What someone else does on their game has no effect on what I do in mine. Maybe they can 1-shot draugh overlords because they have a triple-smithed daedric bow with double enchants and daedric arrows with 6x multipliers. [censored] fantastic. Great for them. I don't care. My game works just fine. And you wet blankets, kvetching about how "everyone knows" what destruction is underpowered and doesn't work and can't kill anything don't get it. If you need to be able to do 3,000 or 4,000 or 5,000 or 50,000 health in a shot, then fine, go and find some mod that lets you do that. Or if you think destruction svcks because you can do 3x as much damage with your orc tank and that's what makes you happy, then go run with him. But what you can't say is that the only way that you can succeed with destruction is by spamlock or reducing the cost to zero. Because you're wrong.

Its fact, you cant play how you want. A lot of which has nothing to do with destruction scaling and has more to do with cut effects and no spell creation. That's another thread though.

I play how I want just fine with destruction at level 51, in fact, this might be shocking, but I pull out my strongest destruction spells for ancient dragons and crush them in under 10 seconds, hell I can use my conjured swords at level 51 on master, with no perks in one handed, and do just fine. And they do a whole WHOPPING 25 damage. Shocking.

"Play how you want", isn't directed to one person, its to everybody. There were more options before, that let you stay in RP, than there are now. Lots of play styles and build types that are no longer even there, much less viable in Skyrim.

I know plenty of eople on my friends list that play how they want, same on this forum, a lot of people are just mad because they cant make a nuke mage anymore.

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It has nothing to do with a nuke mage, lol.

Yep, you don't care that destruction svcks in relation to other skills and thats fine. Atleast you did admit that it svcks, so I will give you points for that.

As you would say, FACT is, if you use your brain , you can do just fine as a destruction mage. Lets say, they increase the damage of destruction, then everyone will whine about how people are exploiting destruction to do 1000 damage. Bethesda will never win.

In skyrim you can't be like Divayth Fyr and melt the armor and weapons off a bandit.

Do you use all five overdraw perks, cuz thats three more than destruction, oh yeah, and lets not forget the sneak attack perks that DONT apply to magic. So without the sneak attack perks and the extra three overdraw perks, no, you cant. I played an archer, and I know you coudlnt.

As you would say, FACT is, if you use your brain , you can do just fine as a destruction mage. Lets say, they increase the damage of destruction, then everyone will whine about how people are exploiting destruction to do 1000 damage. Bethesda will never win.

Lol, yes. Like I said, I play on master, use destruction almost exclusively, and conjuration if there are a LOT fo enemies, and use alchemyto account for the extra health enemies had, in my opinion, if you play on master you should be a master of the gameplay mechanics, and not whine.

"Play how you want", isn't directed to one person, its to everybody. There were more options before, that let you stay in RP, than there are now. Lots of play styles and build types that are no longer even there, much less viable in Skyrim.

As you would say, FACT is, if you use your brain , you can do just fine as a destruction mage. Lets say, they increase the damage of destruction, then everyone will whine about how people are exploiting destruction to do 1000 damage. Bethesda will never win.