What factions are you most allied with? (Part 2) : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:26 am

Please note that you could be working with Yes Man, but your true allegience is with the Kings, for example.

The last poll results, NCR won with the Brotherhood of Steel at a very close second - 23 to 20 votes.

The Followers came in third, followed very closely by Mr. House - 15 to 14 votes

Legion came in 5th place, followed by Nobody, and then followed by Remnants of the Enclave.

» Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:21 am

(Sorry for the double topic) This is the official post, I had trouble with the poll.

Vote for your favorite faction !

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:40 am

Please note that you could be working with Yes Man, but your true allegience is with the Kings, for example.

The last poll results, NCR won with the Brotherhood of Steel at a very close second - 23 to 20 votes.

The Followers came in third, followed very closely by Mr. House - 15 to 14 votes

Legion came in 5th place, followed by Nobody, and then followed by Remnants of the Enclave.

I'll just import my comments here..

Considering that the NCR was one of the main factions, the BoS won as far Im concerned. The poll result would've been different if the roles were reversed I think. You could only choose not to whipe out the BoS if you're with the NCR or Yes Man. The other factions require you to kill them all.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:20 pm

I'll just import my comments here..

Considering that the NCR was one of the main factions, the BoS won as far Im concerned. The poll result would've been different if the roles were reversed I think. You could only choose not to whipe out the BoS if you're with the NCR or Yes Man. The other factions require you to kill them all.

I think there should be a House+BoS path you can take. It makes more sense really than the NCR+BoS path, since House and BoS have much more in common in terms of their goals.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:04 pm

Considering that the NCR was one of the main factions, the BoS won as far Im concerned. The poll result would've been different if the roles were reversed I think. You could only choose not to whipe out the BoS if you're with the NCR or Yes Man. The other factions require you to kill them all.

I don't think that that's really fair... or right. I think that a lot of people just don't like seeing the Brotherhood being greyer, yeah you could argue the practical security reasons of the slave-collar and such (I completely agree) but a lot of people just take things at face value and make stubborn judgements far too early.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:24 pm

NCR of course.(ameirca)

And Dune do you like enclave now?

» Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:49 am

NCR of course.(ameirca)

And Dune do you like enclave now?

Huh? I don't support their agenda, but I've always liked them as a faction. As opposed to the Legion which is just too cardboard cutout for me.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:59 pm

Huh? I don't support their agenda, but I've always liked them as a faction. As opposed to the Legion which is just too cardboard cutout for me.

Why dont you have a BOS pic.

Legion is just...ugh. So many things wrong with them.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Legion is just...ugh. So many things wrong with them.

Yeah, Enclave even the Unity are just tales of genuine good intentions monstorous strings attached; the Legion though are just a societal model, not a bring potentially world saving organisation, and a poor one at that in this users opinion.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:20 pm

Why dont you have a BOS pic.

Legion is just...ugh. So many things wrong with them.

I've been trying to update my avatar to the MK2 power armor, maybe you see it? I just love the MK2 power armor from FO2, it's so awesome.

Legion...just....no I never wanna see them again in the future. Just too many things wrong with them.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:11 am

Yeah, Enclave even the Unity are just tales of genuine good intentions monstorous strings attached; the Legion though are just a societal model, not a bring potentially world saving organisation, and a poor one at that in this users opinion.

There just evil at its best. The enclave even had good intentions but they were extreme to meet them.

Legion dont know what there doing and should just get along out of there.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:19 pm

I think there should be a House+BoS path you can take. It makes more sense really than the NCR+BoS path, since House and BoS have much more in common in terms of their goals.

The BoS strongly opposed Mr House. After you kill House, BoS members welcome it as a positive development. Probobly because of all that tech he has and that he's in a position to use it.

Looks like Mr House is out of the picture. One less thing for us to deal with.

-BoS Paladin

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:27 pm

The BoS strongly opposed Mr House. After you kill House, BoS members welcome it as a positive development. Probobly because of all that tech he has and that he's in a position to use it.

Brotherhood and Mr House similarities:

*Have no interest in conquest
*Believe in technology as the best way to solve humanities problems
*Both are interested in research
*Both have no interest in meddling in other people's affairs

With a high enough speech and some clever diplomacy, I could make them work together.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:56 pm

Followers of the Apocalypse are who I support the most of those listed
Of the in-game routes I support Yes Man the most, followed by House with the Legion coming in dead last.

Basically an Independent Mojave with solid, open trade with the NCR is my most preferred route. I usually support the NCR in their fight against the Legion+Fiends and keeping the Mojave free of those jerks.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:15 am

I don't think that that's really fair... or right. I think that a lot of people just don't like seeing the Brotherhood being greyer, yeah you could argue the practical security reasons of the slave-collar and such (I completely agree) but a lot of people just take things at face value and make stubborn judgements far too early.

That may be true to some extent but then why would many of them support an even greyer faction like the NCR instead then? It is interesting. According to the Vault, the BoS leadership's Karma is listed as "Good" (even Hardin) and the NCR leadership's Karma is listed as "Neutral." Even Ambassedor Crocker, the dove, is Neutral.

BoS - Elder McNamara

Karma: Good

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nolan_McNamara

BoS - Head Paladin Hardin

Karma: Good

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Edgar_Hardin

BoS - Senior Knight Lorenzo

Karma: Good

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Lorenzo

BoS - Paladin Ramos

Karma: Good

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ramos

NCR - General Oliver

Karma: Neutral

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Lee_Oliver

NCR - Colonel Cassandra Moore

Karma: Neutral

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cassandra_Moore

NCR - President Aaron Kimball

Karma: Neutral

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Aaron_Kimball

NCR - Ambassador Dennis Crocker

Karma: Neutral

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dennis_Crocker

» Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:08 am

Brotherhood ~~and Mr House similarities~~:

*Believe in technology as the best ~~way to solve humanities problems~~

The traditional Brotherhood believe that military technology is the best, not Aut-Docs or anything so mundane; they also don't like it when someone else has technology which they want either.

*Both have no interest in meddling in other people's affairs

Well it's highly likely, from a Sawyer interview and the NV loading quote about the Brotherhood, that they started the war. Sawyer says that the war between the NCR and Brotherhood was largely because the NCR refused to hand-over some technology that the Brotherthood wanted - on it's own of course it doesn't specift who started it but the loading quote in NV reads 'The Brotherhood waged a long and bloody war against the NCR.'

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:23 pm

Right now I'm tripple screwing everyone, I'm accepted by everyone and liked by the ceasers legion. Hehehee..

As for who I like the most as a faction outside my current character.. NCR. I always side with the NCR when I play "just a random character"

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:49 pm

Well it's highly likely, from a Sawyer interview and the NV loading quote about the Brotherhood, that they started the war. Sawyer says that the war between the NCR and Brotherhood was largely because the NCR refused to hand-over some technology that the Brotherthood wanted - on it's own of course it doesn't specift who started it but the loading quote in NV reads 'The Brotherhood waged a long and bloody war against the NCR.'

From my understanding, the reason the NCR soldiers don't have any energy weapons is because the Brotherhood targeted caravans carrying them. Although I think the war with the NCR was probably over something bigger than just energy weapons. Perhaps the NCR claimed a stockpile of ICBM's (without launching capabilities) and the Brotherhood reacted to that. I mean, I wouldn't trust the NCR with nuclear capabilities, hell I don't trust them without nuclear capabilities too.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:54 pm

Brotherhood and Mr House similarities:

Aside from using technology, they're aren't many similarities.

Besides, I think Mr. House was forming a sound strategy when he decided to blow the Mojave BOS to kingdom come. The BOS would never have allowed him to use an army of robots to rule from New Vegas, since the Brotherhood would "feel" that they had a right to that tech, and would feel threatend by House's clear tech advantage over them.

They would have likely gone to war with him, and (as he says) while its a war he can certainly win, why waste the effort on them?

Man I love House.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:15 pm

Aside from using technology, they're aren't many similarities.

Besides, I think Mr. House was forming a sound strategy when he decided to blow the Mojave BOS to kingdom come. The BOS would never have allowed him to use an army of robots to rule from New Vegas, since the Brotherhood would "feel" that they had a right to that tech, and would feel threatend by House's clear tech advantage over them.

Clearly, it was a rational move for him to take because that was indeed the BoS's line of thinking and he knew it. In fact, if you side with Yes Man and upgrade the Securitrons to militarize New Vegas, the BoS are alarmed by it and say they need to send patrols to deal with it.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:20 am

The talaban but if your talking about fallout i'm not sure the bos and house is a close one a mean the bos are the BOSS but Mr house in the house .

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:43 pm

But in general fallout im turning into a enclave worshiper .

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:07 pm

Clearly, it was a rational move for him to take because that was indeed the BoS's line of thinking and he knew it. In fact, if you side with Yes Man and upgrade the Securitrons to militarize New Vegas, the BoS react to that by saying they need to send patrols to deal with it.

Just goes to show you that often the Brotherhood's bravado outweighs any rational considerations of a strategy on their part. They are outgunned, outmatched, and outnumbered and they still choose to go to war.

House knew what he was doing.

But in general fallout im turning into a enclave worshiper .

*hands Liberty a plasma rifle and MkII power armor*

Its standard issue equipment for Enclave followers.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:20 pm

The Legion hate is fairly strong. I'd say it's absolutely ridiculous and none of you can bring your opinion to justification without looking like a fool.

» Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:06 pm

The Legion hate is fairly strong. I'd say it's absolutely ridiculous and none of you can bring your opinion to justification without looking like a fool.

I'd like the Legion alot more if I could enslave people for them. :sadvaultboy: