Why aren't there Spears or Polearms in Skyrim?

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:03 am

Beth did say polearms would be in, but not in the traditional sense. They've probably got something planned for it at least
When did they say this?

I think, as has been said, they are considering axes/battleaxes as polearms since they can be categorized as pole-axes. Call it a PR twisting of the words. A way to not say "No, there are no polearms."

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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:10 am

I just find the omission of spears odd in a game that has Wooly Mammoths, considering that humans hunted Mammoths with...spears.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:22 pm

I just find the omission of spears odd in a game that has Wooly Mammoths, considering that humans hunted Mammoths with...spears.
Humans in the real world. Skyrim is not the real world. But i see your point.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:46 pm

The Lusty Argonian maids are busy polishing them all.:P
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:18 pm

In answer to the thread's title "Why aren't there Spears or Polearms in Skyrim?"
I give this answer: Spears and polearms aren't in Skyrim because Bethesda didn't implement them.
Quite an obvious answer really. Most people so far on this thread have answered a question which hasn't been asked.

"Why haven't spears or polearms been implemented into Bethesda's award winning title The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim?"

I give this answer to the above question: I don't know. I suggest you ask someone at Bethesda.


You know, if one were fighting a dragon with a long polearm, one would have to forgo the use of a shield, which means one would be burnt to a crisp when said dragon unleashes its fiery breath. But, if one were to fight with a shorter spear then one could use a shield, but then the advantages of using a spear would be reduced, a sword would be of much more use. With a sword one can both slash and stab. Much easier to use in the close quarters required to fight a dragon in melee.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/080/080618p1.html

Yeah, except when they can make more money. Then they don't give a [censored] about any of that.

They gave us less weapons. They gave us less armor. They gave us less spells. They gave us less options. They gave us less choices. The fact that spears are no longer in-game is proof that everything they say is simply PR [censored].

Ah. So, are you one of those special people who would work for years to create a game which you would then release to the world for free? Good on you. I look forward to your first masterpiece. That is, if you haven't starved to death long before you reach the programming stage.

By the way, that interview is from Morrowind's time. Over a decade ago. Time's change. It's up to Bethesda whether they want TES series to be an rpg anymore. If you don't like it, well, you simply don't play. :thumbsup:
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:37 am

what would be awesome tho it simply won't happen cause it would change the gameplay I think

nunchucks, bostaffs, ropedarts (yes I been watching some old jackie chan of late)

imagine it, your hiking down the road and someone comes at you with a set of nunchucks, commence epic battle haha


there definitely should be spears/pikes in the game, or throwing spears/knives, dont forget the old ball n chain, that would be quality in this game
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:53 am

Sometime between Skyrim's announcement and release. looking for it now

Edit: apparently a LOT of people discussed it, but all the articles discussing the subject with Todd Howard are gone. No idea why

I've notice alot of articles have disappeared as well, and strangely not the things that are in....
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:48 am

You know, if one were fighting a dragon with a long polearm, one would have to forgo the use of a shield, which means one would be burnt to a crisp when said dragon unleashes its fiery breath. But, if one were to fight with a shorter spear then one could use a shield, but then the advantages of using a spear would be reduced, a sword would be of much more use. With a sword one can both slash and stab. Much easier to use in the close quarters required to fight a dragon in melee.

You're assuming a shield would protect you from a fiery breath? The shield wouldn't catch fire if made of wood, or get too hot to hold if made of metal?

I can see Mythbusters settting up a flamethower, putting Buster behind a shield, and seeing what would happen. One would have to believe that dodging it would be better than cowering behind a shield that is more than likely smaller than you.

Yes, I realize this is a fantasy game and certain "rules" won't apply.

Hiding behind a smaller-than-you shield to protect you from a dragon's fiery breath would be about as logical as hiding beneath the sheets from the Bogeyman.

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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:26 pm

Hiding behind a smaller-than-you shield to protect you from a dragon's fiery breath would be about as logical as hiding beneath the sheets from the Bogeyman.
Hah! I wish a shield protected against dragon-breath as well as hiding beneath my sheets protected me from the bogeyman! I've hidden under my bedsheets for 21 years and counting, and no bogeyman has ever managed to harm me!
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:41 pm

Humans in the real world. Skyrim is not the real world. But i see your point.

So in Skyrim, people can smith weapons using the hearts of a monster.

But aren't able to create a simple knife on a stick?
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:30 am

Just wondering but why doesn't Skyrim have guns?

Give the modders time. It's always boobs first, followed quickly by guns.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:05 pm

So in Skyrim, people can smith weapons using the hearts of a monster.

But aren't able to create a simple knife on a stick?
I meant not in the real world, as in, "the devlopers say what they can and cant do" but like i said, i did see his point
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:59 am

Actually, Greenpeace complained about the number of trees that were cut down to produce pole-arms, and eventually all the governments signed a treaty outlawing pole-arms.

Besides, they needed those trees to make toothpicks, so it was either pole-arms or clean teeth. Teeth won.

At Dragonbridge, there is a NPC woodcutter who said business has never been better since the civil war started.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:55 am

At Dragonbridge, there is a NPC woodcutter who said business has never been better since the civil war started.
Firewood's needed for making and Upgrading Longbows - TruStory.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:01 pm

Isnt the "were in Skyrim they dont use spears" or "Vikings didnt use spears" flawed on all counts?

1. Some NPC dont hail from Skyrim, did there spears sudenly vanished?
2. Vikings not using spears? Did a search on google, found viking and spear in less than a minute. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/vikings/weapons_01.shtml
3. Guess what kind of weapon a Valkerie is depicted with in most pictures.

Maybe Bethesda should take this oppurtunity to have Spears included in the next DLC, maybe on 1 handed perk, with the note that you cant use 2 spears at the same time.
It sure is flawed. Not to mention that the chief deity in the Norse pantheon and the god of war, Odin, uses a spear. And polearms have been around from the point where hominids started using weapons to the point where firearms took over a larger portion of warfare.

I would guess by the look of weapons and definetly armor that imperials are really resemblanced to Roman Empires.. Fits in with the vikings aswell since we in the north (Sweden, Denmark, Norway) fought the Roman empire for centuries.. Taking / losing land
When did Scandinavians ever fight Rome? There are of course many Germanic tribes who fought them, who originated in Scandinavia and Northern Germany, like the Burgundians, Goths, Vandals etc, but the Roman empire never advanced past southern Germany and only got as far as the southern Netherlands, never coming close to Scandinavia proper.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:06 pm

Spears are for milk drinkers.
Who needs a spear when you can wack an idiot "Bandit" around the ears with an axe!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:46 am

i would have liked something like spears instead of maces. does anyone actually use maces? i planned using them one time, because i got tired of swords... now he's using axes.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:17 am

So in Skyrim, people can smith weapons using the hearts of a monster.

But aren't able to create a simple knife on a stick?
***Sharpened stick. No knife required.

Except to sharpen the stick.

Guys.

In the Lore, the Imperial City has thousands of occupants.

In the game Oblivion, it doesn't because the mechanic isn't implemented.

In the Lore, the Skyrim Vampires can move through ice.

In the game, they can't because the mechanic isn't implemented.

So in the TES universe, the inhabitants of Skyrim can and do use spears.

In the game, we can't, because the mechanic isn't implemented.


i would have liked something like spears instead of maces. does anyone actually use maces? i planned using them one time, because i got tired of swords... now he's using axes.
^^Rektoh - I can honestly say I have never used a mace. Ever. I personally owuld have liked spears instead of the kill-cam, which I never see whenthe kill is actually worthwhile....
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:11 am

A Bo Staff would have been good for a mage type character.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:56 pm

This. Polearms like halberds are great with mass groups of infantry, where they support each other, but are far too slow and unwieldy for individuals. Which is why only mass groups of infantry used them. Throwing spears/javelins are a little different though: the Romans used disposable Pila, which were carried by all legionaries, but were mainly used to force the opponent to drop their shield. With a suitable weight (or number limit) there might be a place for these in the game. The only other version which might work would be short stabbing spears like iklwa.

I bet I could stab with a spear (2 meters or 2.5 meters long) twise as fast as I could with any sword. Not to mention, if given a robust spear I could parry alot esier than with a sword. ;)

I have done alot of sparring with spears, and they are not as bulky as you might think.(Not counting pikes here) If an enemy comes up close you just put the spear in the ground and hold your hand in the other end. That will make you a solid defence if you are easy on your feet. Though you cannot attack from this stance you could easaly draw a short sword and cut them if they are trying to get inside your guard.

I realy hoped for spears in Skyrim. To engage a mamoth or giant with a sword seems wierd since you want someting that can keep them at distance and someting good at piercing if they charge. :)
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:53 am

Spears would have needed their own set of animations separate from one-handed and two-handed weapons. I think it was probably awkward to include without a lot of work which would have taken resources away from something else in the game.

I don't know if spears really fit with Skyrim. They just don't seem very Nordic. And pole-arms are really designed for army formations not for use by lone fighters.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:47 am

Adding a spear or pole arm??? Who uses them? MACE'S FTW! But they should add flails and halberts.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:59 am

Adding a spear or pole arm??? Who uses them? MACE'S FTW! But they should add flails and halberts.
You mean except for a very large portion of the infantry before and during the Middle Ages up until the end of the renaissance? Not that many I guess, but as said that's provided you don't count all the people who used them. Flails, however, were not used that much except for in the Hussite wars, and those were agrarian tools modified for warfare and not your stereotypical fantasy flail. And a halberd is a polearm, FYI.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:12 am

When did Scandinavians ever fight Rome? There are of course many Germanic tribes who fought them, who originated in Scandinavia and Northern Germany, like the Burgundians, Goths, Vandals etc, but the Roman empire never advanced past southern Germany and only got as far as the southern Netherlands, never coming close to Scandinavia proper.

Like you said, Goths were originally from Scandinavia. A Gotland still exists in Sweden, in fact.
The history of Rome itself spans a massive stretch of time, and Scandianvians hand plenty of time to be in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian_guard with them. (A sharp eyed reader will probably notice the spears in the illustrations on that page...)

As an interesting aside, one possible origin for the word "German" is the celtic-origin word "Gar", which means spear.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:39 am

The could have cut out the slow motiion kill moves, NPC's babbling everyt time I walk by them, NPC's talking every time I just want to shop, NPC's talking in general, and used those resources to include spears, staves, halberd, and pikes.
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