lol unnessesary comments like "you're not Bethesda" or "If they took every Idea from the forumers the game would be crap" are not even applicable because of this one, solid fact.


They were in past games, this isn't an unreasonable request to have Options again. why is it removed options/features fate soley reside on how it was done in the past? this is a new game right? who cares how it was done in the past, what about the future? what about now? sigh.

Some of us LIKED crossbows/polearms/spears. Some of us liked them to the point of making mods to add them back to the game. In morrowind, a crossbow was my preferred ranged weapon. Good range, reasonable damage. I liked it better than bows...... Beth removed them because they didn't want to invest the work into making them for Oblivion. With each game, we are getting fewer weapons, and fewer weapon skills. How is that a good thing?? Shall we jump right to the end here with the next game? Only one combat skill "weapons".... and it's used for all of them??

Thats my point, saying they shouldn't be around Now because they were already done, or how they were in past games is some kind of fallacy. I like Options, never do I promote the lack of options for others whether I liked/Used it or not.

I don't need to tell them how. It's already been established within the franchise. TES games are supposed to be in-depth, complex RPG's that offer a wide array of options and playstyles.

Skyrim does not fit into that category. They've removed options. There are less weapons in Skyrim than there were in Morrowind. There are less pieces of armor in Skyrim than there were in Morrowind. There are less factions in Skyrim than there were in Morrowind. There is an overall lack of variety in Skyrim, especially when compared to previous TES games. Why? Why is that? Skyrim is supposed to be an RPG that offers freedom and choices and options and allows us to play how we wish, so why on Earth would Bethesda remove options that were present in previous games? Why would they limit our freedom to a fraction of what it used to be? Why would they take away the tools we used to love and used when role-playing? Why?

If you're okay with them dumbing down the franchise and turning it into one big action-adventure mess, you need to leave these forums.

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Lifts-Her-Tail is too busy polishing those spears and polearms, they're so dirty right now.

If that's the case, then why weren't they in Daggerfall or Arena?


Yet it has more than Daggerfall and far more than Arena - Don't get me started on Battlespire, Shadowkey, or Redguard.

The series has been moving forward as a general trend. Morrowind is an outlier.


Since Rome Fell, FYI.

I wonder too as spears are an ancient weapon that would definatly be used in such a Nordic environment!

Bo staff would have been cool to, or just using a magic staff in melee. I don't understand why throwing weapons didn't make a comeback because FONV already did a bunch of the animations. Crossbows would have been killer but would have required a new perk branch.

Not really, could have just lumped it into archery, and it would have been fine.

No, it has not. Oblivion was a huge step backward from Morrowind, and while Skyrim has come a little closer, there is still a rather large gap. You don't just create a great game by accident, and then completely ignore what made it so great in future games. You build on your existing success, and Bethesda isn't doing that.

They'd rather create games that act as cash cows, not games that are actually worth playing for any decent amount of time anymore.

And Morrowind has less options than daggerfall.

Arena was the start, Daggerfall was a reimagening hence the mass influx of content, Morrowind was New tech but they still managed to balance that out by keeping alot of options, the skills lost which consistent mostly of the speech skills where not a massive lost for two reasons, Charm/Command spells and the fact that there where no missions for creaturesMorrowind HAD a reason because it was new tech, things done in daggerfall couldnt in morrowind. Oblivion was another jump in graphics but had alot of overbearing attempts to address fan complaints in addition to "garnering a wider audience" of which made little sense because you don't purposely tailor a game to attract a phantom audience, you make a game and it gets people, the -options- did not need to die to garner a new Audience. now comes Skyrim with further removal and only a technological jump to show for it? bah not my cup of tea, its another TES game, and thats Great but the series hasn't changed in mechanics, the races, the rules, the skill progress system, its still the same there really hasn't been anything Drastic. Is it not reasonable to feel that in the void that spans the next installment of games that things be as drastic as a change from Arena to Daggerfall? where things got added and retooled, no removed and rehashed.

Oblivion and Skyrim aren't Drastically different from each other in terms of Tech like Morrowind and Daggerfall was, so WHY ARE WES TILL LOSING OPTIONS?

Just have throwing spears ala FONV and 2 handed melee spears.

If that's true, it better illustrates my point that Bethesda is moving backwards. You can see how they sacrifice content for the sake of graphical improvements in both Oblivion and Skyrim, yet the actual improvements really aren't even up-to-date.

But you see, I was referring to firearms as someone (perhaps jokingly) asked why there are no firearms in the game.

Because Vikings did not use polearms so much (Since according to Tod Howard, Skyrim is based on Vikings more or less)
Spears they used in form of Javelins..

hopefully some bright modder can figure out how to port mount and blades combat as well as the better looking weapons into skyrim.

These weapons were used in Morrowind, and there are Dunmer refugees in Windhelm. Why couldn't they have brought weapons with them? I'm sure they had to have some way of defending themselves until actually reaching Skyrim, and even then it isn't all that hospitable either.

oblivion wasn't the beginning of streamlining.anything after arena was.because apperently in arena we where allowed to travel to all of tamerial. and then in dagger fall it was only one giant province.streamlining was there even before oblivion.

I find the lack of Spears/Polearms in Skyrim as a problem with lore.

- The Skyrim Book "The Lusty Argonian" specifically mentions Spears.

- There are no Spears in Skyrim

My lore is ruined.

That was mostly because of technical limitations and the fact that they wanted to focus more on detail and quality, less on quantity. However, they have no such excuse for Oblivion and Skyrim.

I dont know.. Am just answering questions Beth said the game were based on vikings and norse mythology (Which was my major) and vikings did not use spears as a main weapon in the way say Legionaires of Rome did (Spear + shield).

http://pc.ign.com/articles/080/080618p1.html
Yeah, except when they can make more money. Then they don't give a [censored] about any of that.

They gave us less weapons. They gave us less armor. They gave us less spells. They gave us less options. They gave us less choices. The fact that spears are no longer in-game is proof that everything they say is simply PR [censored].

Couldn't they just add them as "foreigner weapons" like Scimatars are.

Are Imperials based off Romans?

Imperials could've brought Spears to Skyrim.