Yes, lets completely destroy the enchanting system as it is. lets completely destroy the lore, lets make it super easy and without any limits.

Seriously, most of your ideas I find terrible.
No to unlimited charges, no to re-enchanting, no to no longer using souls for enchanting.

Seriously, this is as stupid as having unlimited bullets in most FPS games today.
There needs to be a challenge, there need to be obstacles to overcome because that is where the reward is.
A game that does what you describe is boring because you will never be lucky, never need skill or planning so there is zero statisfaction in achievement.

Lol. Ok, explain to me how charges currently are not infinite? I always have filled soul gems nearby. Always. It is not a challenge. I do not have to be careful or switch weapons. The only thing that is occuring now is I do not have to go into my inventory and click a petty soul gem to recharge my weapon, or have to worry about charges and have another option to click through when leveling enchanting.

Lore from enchanting? Really, you cannot figure out how to modify the system and still keep the lore intact? Having an NPC do it "for you" could retain the lore. Having it player driven is just clunky and creates issues here.

Overwriting enchantments is bad? Really? Why is that? Instead I just make 1000 Iron Daggers and put Absorb or Banish on it and sell it to a vendor for infinite gold. I have to go make another set of armor or weapon when I want to replace the enchantment as I level which IS NOT A CHALLENGE it is just a pointless time sink.

There is no achievement in the game currently. If you would ever even read my other posts, you would realize the system I advocate is based on risk and reward. In Skyrim, that does not exist at all currently as loot does not matter considering how Crafting works in the game currently.

Maybe you should try criticizing better rather than just syaing "unlimited bullets is a stupid idea!" Ammo is an arbitrary form of upkeep. It only makes sense in this lorenerd reality. It is detrimental to gameplay in most cases with the exception of a survival type game.

There is absolutely no reason for the enchanters to be gone.
It was more content that was taken from the game for no apparent reason.
They want to completely dismantle this games depth that allowed us to make abstract builds based off of how we wanted to play them.
Now our mages have to use a mundane lockpick to pick a lock.
An acrobat is out the window because guess what there is no acrobatics.
We cannot even create and tailer our mages how we wish with spell creation its absurd and abhorrent.
We should have the enchanters so our warriors would not have to dabble in enchanting at all if we did not wish for then to.

I agree with your ideas on risk/ reward, that there needs to be some.
But I am against anything like you describe. Its a simplification, not an improvement. Its a removal of features and TES has already bled too much of those.
It would be like no more armour degradation, which is also horrible, because it is just one less thing the game does.

Some people fail so hard at reading comprehension that it's a bit sad.

She does not want to re-enchant things herself because it BREAKS CHARACTER. You should not be forced to break character when a simple solution is available. Considering this simple solution was in previous games, there is no excuse for it not being implemented.

it was specifically stated that people will not be able to recharge weapons for u in skyrim, u must use a soul gem.

They probably deleted it because people complained that in Oblivion recharging weapons at the mages guild was too expensive. I agree they should bring it back as an option. All of the court mages have soul gems in their inventory, why shouldn't they use one to recharge your weapon for you if you pay them enough? Just one more thing deleted from the game in the name of streamlining. Guess you will have to buy sould gems and recharge them yourself and pretend the court mage did it for you. Hopefully they will brign back the option in future DLC or TES VI.

Role playing is fine and good. I do the same with my 3 characters, BUT at some points you just have to remind yourself "IT IS ONLY A GAME"! Otherwise you will drive yourself and the whole community crazy! LOLOL

On the other hand, that could just make your character look like a complete moron who doesn't understand the value of money.

Well, look at it this way. While I understand you don't want your character to be an enchanter - nobody can be all things - don't view recharging weapons as enchanting. Creating the initial enchantment is real enchanting, just as building a cell phone requires knowledge of engineering. Recharging an enchanted magic weapon, however, is and is meant to be a task for the non-enchanter to allow anybody to maintain the charge of their magic weapons with soul gems - no expertise required. Just grab a soul gem and the weapon in question and crush the soul gem - instant recharge - just like recharging the aforementioned cell phone requires no expertise.

Does that fix the concept in terms of your character concept? It doesn't make them an enchanter (like creating an enchantment would) it just means real enchanters came up with a system whereby non-enchanters could maintain their weapons' charge with soul gems, just as engineers came up with a system where non-engineers could maintain their cell phones' charge with a wall charger.

The odd thing about this is that the OP is concerned that his character is naturally suspicious about magic, borderline phobia, so he doesn′t want the character to deal with soul gems...but his character is perfectly comfortable with handing over his weapon to a complete stranger (a magic user at that) and let the stranger tinker and use unknown magic upon it...so it′s really just an excuse to complain about another missing feature that nobody needs by claiming that it breaks character when the way he used to do it is arguably just as alien and unrealistic to his character.

I think the reason the designers don't let you pay cash for custom crafting services is that it makes the crafting skills less useful and so tends to make builds less diverse. Let's face it, money is easy to come by.

My thief character who doesn't like magic (but has about 140K gold) just uses unenchanted weapons. I just thought it was the price I paid for not taking magic skills. If it makes the game a tiny bit harder, for my taste that is all to the good. But everyone wants different things, thus there will always be complaints.

ok, this topic has degraded a lot so I stopped reading posts, but in case you are wondering, I think there is a guy at the college you can pay to recharge your items. You have to do a mission for him, but that's about it, then you just give him gold and get on your way. He's the only one I know of, though. Just for the record, recharging to me a minute to figure out in this one, but it is really easy, and you find soul gems everywhere. You might keep some on you just so you can do the occassional recharge on the go, just in case your weapon burns out on you in the middle of a battle. Food for that. Hope this was helpful.

He even enchants your weapon, or so he says. But I never used him so I can't confirm.

That is Sergius the enchanting teacher. He doesn't enchant stuff for you.

actually that is enchanting...recharging magic items boosts your enchanting

True, it will boost your enchanting, but only a very, very little bit. What I was saying in my post was that the player didn't have to view this as making their character an enchanter. True enchanters do more than just recharge weapons, they create new enchanted weapons. Recharging is something that anybody can do, just like how it takes an engineer to create a cell phone but anybody can recharge one.

I'm curious as to why so many people argue against NPCs that can actually do something useful, considering there are only a few NPCs in the entire game that do anything other than sell you junk, order you around, attack you, or follow you.

We know that people enchant and recharge stuff in exchange for gold, why do they refuse to work for the Dovahkiin?
Basic logic refutes every point against hiring an enchanter to recharge your things except the fact that they don't.

I think the OP's "problem" can be solved by just selling used enchanted weapon for new charged weapons when needed. You are not using soul gems or enchanting at all, therefor the character can still have no knowledge in how they work or whatever. You get to bleed off your gold as well so you don't have to come back here with a new thread "Skyrim Broken I'z Rich" thread.

Also curious if the OP uses the char's Thu'um at all.

I don't think the role-playing reason of having a "shabbas goy" to recharge your items for you makes that much sense. I think it is more that people don't want the little boost to the enchanting skill you get, because they don't want to level too fast. Against that you have the principle that paying money for crafting skills reduces the value of taking those skills. You definitely would not want to have full custom crafting that was paid for. Then you might as well just pay for it and not take the skill (so you didn't level as fast, natch). When it is just recharging, it is not so clear cut. But there are arguments on both sides, and it's just a design decision where they decided to come down on the side of not having a payment to perform what is an aspect of the player crafting skill. It is obviously a deliberate decision and not an oversight, because the College crafting teacher tells you outright that he won't enchant things for you.

I've got plenty of filled soulgems but can't seem to recharge any magic weapon. the T key comes up to recharge, but nothing happens. I can't even select the soul gem I want to use. Help please

Yes it should be a service of someone like court mages. What I would like is to be able to replace the enchantment on a weapon with a new set of enchantments. You can smith the same weapon up and up, but the enchantment makes you abandon weapon after weapon as you re-enchant. Kind of the opposite problem you have.

Maybe the answer in your case is let go of a conception you have that an average warrior (in Skyrim) wouldn't know how to take a soul gem (which you can buy filled) and power up the weapon. Maybe it's as simple as touching the gem to the weapon and bang. And if that is so, then your character not wanting to do that himself may just be lazy -- you can't be bothered to maintain your weapons and armor, which every good warrior would. I'm not saying that is the case, it's just one way to look at it so that your non-enchanter wouldn't even think of recharging the weapon as "enchanting." He'd think of it like keeping it sharp and well maintained.

Thats like saying replacing the batteries on your TV remote is against your morals.


Refilling enchantments is like replacing batteries. You don't have to understand how it works or why it does, you just do it and it works again. We all have replaced batteries, so this should be no different.

Given the process to obtain new enchantments is to disenchant them, which destroys the item in the process, applying new enchantments to already enchanted items seems like an impossibility for very clear reasons..

Weren't you telling people a while ago that they should "hold themselves back" if they don't want their character to be "OP?"

But now you're telling this person to just go ahead and do something that goes against their character and "just live with it."

Removal of someone who would enchant/recharge items for you is rather dumb. It being present didn't negatively affect the game in the least and it allowed people who wanted a straight forward method to recharge/enchant to go about it.

They took a lot of stuff out that used to be part of gameplay in Oblivion. More than I at first realized. Having recently returned to Oblivion I was almost shocked by how many more choices I have in that game compared to in Skyrim. And because there's more play choices it faciliates playing your character more in the way you want to.

Skyrim looks very good (gritty, but good) and there were some nice things added and tweaked -- it's not all negative, that's for sure! -- but they took out more than they put in. I suspect changes like these -- removal of spell creation, removal of athletics, acrobatics, and mysticism, removal of attributes, removal of ways to open a lock besides lockpicks, removal of enchant charge vendors, etc. -- were done to simplify the scope of gameplay so as to appeal to a larger audience. Either that, or they spent so much time on the new graphics engine and other highly visual changes that, at the end of the day, there simply weren't enough man hours left to put back in the things that got taken out. I really can't think of another decent reason to take out enchant/recharge vendors. All the jarl wizards sell spells, buy and sell magic items and even buy and sell soul gems, so why not let them enchant weapons? Maybe they meant for them to do that, but they ran out of time to implement it.

As someone else already pointed out, using a soul gem levels up enchanting. Well, maybe you would prefer that your character not add any points to enchanting. This could be for RP reasons, or simply to avoid having the guards asking you for magic weapons for the rest of your life (another topic...). But you have no choice now. If you want to recharge your magic items you are going to increase your enchanting level. It's very similar to the removal of unlock spells. Now you have no choice but to level lockpicking in this game if you ever wish to open a locked chest or door. There is no other choice. For players that like to pick their own way to play, these sorts of developer choices are disappointing.