I`ve been puzzling over this a while now and wondering if I`ve been missing something, so I didn`t want to whine too sonn about it. But now I think it`s time...

Right, I`m a warrior- I don`t Enchant. I never enchanted in Morrowind or Oblivion. I find enchanted weapons, use them until they run out of power, then go to an enchanter to pop the batteries back in.

I don`t care how they do it, as long as I pay `em and they do it.

But in hours of adventuring I`ve not found one person who can enchant my weapons back up. I end up either throwing them away or selling the weapon and waiting until I can grab the next ancient enchanted Ax hidden in some tomb.

Do you have to enchant everything yourself now- And how? I can`t enchant anything.

Why did they remove this? Why can`t I just pay them to do it? It was very useful for non-enchanters who wanted to use enchanted weapons.

Is this that `dumbing down` thing again?

Just find/ buy soul gems with souls in them, then select the weapon and press charge ( you'll see a button for it, I dont know what it is on the platform you play). You dont have to 'enchant them back up'

Hope this helps

I don't think it's "dumbing-down". More like they're encouriging people to step out of the bounds of classes which restrict them from not being able to do something.

But they should have included it, but with how easy it is to exploit enchanting, there is no need, unless you're forcing rules on your playthrough

The College comes across as more of a private school, as opposed to the profitable business that was the Arcane University. The local Guilds in Cyrodiil sold whatever to whomever. The College is forced by prejudice to guard it's gates. And which self respecting Nord would even want to be seen going there to get weapons recharged?

Hmm. I may give it a go. Goes against my character though...

And that`s the problem. Bethesda do not understand that we don`t all want everything. I want my character restricted. He`s not an enchanter. He views enchanting very much like Sorcery- Weird magical stuff that shouldn`t be messed with. Think Conan, he`ll USE it, but he sure as heck isn`t going to go into the weird mythical sorcerous magic process needed to make it.

I also see it a bit like fixing a mobile phone or PC. A lot of people don`t care to know why a mobile or PC is busted, they just take it to the Service place and pay for someone to get it going again.

Bah, Bethesda just don`t get it in their rush to please the biggest crowd.

I`m sad that you can`t get things enchanted in a shop like before.

Thats the problem. The game is designed (removal of classes) so that you can do everything you want and are not restricted by your class. IMO it should have been done A LOT better.

I tend to think they just forgot to put it in...

Bit like the usual reaction of instantly jumping in to only fix those issues that are embarrassing on youtube, rather than the actual game mechanics problems.

i know the feeling.

Its a bit like how enchanter NPCs arent in the game, since its s skill now Bethesda obviously feel that you either do the skill, or dont get enchanted stuff.



Just look at Morrowind, if you made your enchat skill really good then you profited from really pwoerful and cheap enchantments.....didn't want to be an enchanter? Just pay large sums to an Enchanter to do it for you.

Seriously, just because Morrowind is old school, doesn't mean it didn't have anything good.

You are dumbing-down the game. Recharge your items and move along. If it was like that in Morrowind and in Skyrim you could see a NPC to recharge your stuff, you would cry "OMG they make it so easy now, it's dumbed-down!"
Because let's face it, you don't know what to invent to whine.

Exactly. Tis a common mistake some make.



That is so wrong and so not understanding anything I wrote it`s amazing.

I would rather say, that Skyrim requires you to do various things that cross class boundaries.

It is more true of Morrowind and Oblivion, that you could really do or not do anything you want, while classes merely created a tendency for certain actions to be favored or easier. In comparison, Skyrim with its perk trees, limited action options, and railroaded faction affiliations is much more restrictive.

No I look at it an go, it so tedious ot have ot buy a soul gem, close the trader dialogue, open inventory, find weapon to recharge, select the soul gem i just bought and recharge.

That is tedious, Oblivion's pay-menu system wasn't dumbing down (nobody ever said it was) it just made a task that would be tedious, a lot easier and faster to do.

Read about Enchanting here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Enchanting

I pay people to change the batteries in my remote.





The mechanics of it are never explained, IIRC, so just think of it as rubbing the soul gem slowly up and down the shaft of your weapon. Even the most feckless barbarian could do that.

I don't even know why you have to buy a soul gem, except if you don't loot already filled soul gems, don't loot soul trap weapons and empty soul gems, and brag about how you're roleplaying it well. But taking that path and not expecting enormous difficulty such as opening a trader's menu, isn't it a bit far-fetched?

I don't know why people are talking about Morrowind. Enchanting skill in Morrowind was killed by the NPCs, who could handle it better. So awesome. Let's not talk about the Mage Guild exclusive of Oblivion, which would require for any character you wanted to enchant stuff to do the annoying acceptation quests. So having NPCs to recharge your items? It's a cherry on the top of a cake of rocks.
In previous games, traders weren't selling as easily and as many soul gems than in Skyrim. Again, if that system would have been in Morrowind and Skyrim had NPC to recharge stuff, lots of players would have commented it as streamlining, making it too easy for non-enchanters and pure warriors and blablabla.

lol at both Weightaholic's comment and avatar.

No, it doesn't. You hold a soul gem against your weapon, the power in the gem charges the weapon and then the gem breaks...

Just because you are not a mage, doesn't mean you cannot use magic. These limitations are absurd and unrealistic. You can, just like the everyday Joe can use technology without being an engineer... It's all about the complexity, using a battery is simple, tuning a nuclear generator is not. Using a soul gem or drinking a potion is easy, reanimating the dead and shooting fire out of your hands is not. A warrior can use a soul gem just like a mage can thrust a dagger, it's not their specialty but anyone can do it...

This is true with one minor problem. Recharging a item requires soulgems... Soulgems, especially filled, are expensive and casting soul trap yourself means you have to use a spell... Equally important your ability in recharging your items increases if your enchanting skill increases...

Now I don't know about you, but no matter how I replace the batteries in my remote the effect will always be the same, it's not like I can become better at it. Which will suddenly magically make them last longer.

The avatar is pretty much bang on as to how I look at a lot of the posts in this forum.

I don't know what you're talking about that's amusing in my comment.



I'm looking at this post like my avatar right now. Minor problem? It's so minor as to be non-existent! You don't have to cast soul trap if you find a weapon to do it for you (plus there are plenty of filled ones to be found in Dwemer ruins). The OP would, one would assume, be using a "pre-enchanted" weapon.

Cheap and effective. And it doesn't use spells!

The only problem I see with this is that repeated use would, eventually, increase your enchanting skill to 100, as each recharge gives you a little bit of enchanting skill, but really, if the OP never uses the skill itself, this makes little difference to the charges or the capture of souls. Plus it would take many, many hundreds of hours, as near as I could tell. More than you would probably play with one character.

It's called "having a weapon enchanted with soul trap"
Also, once enchanted weapons become a problem, you'll have so much money that buying soulgems won't be a problem...

BTW, idk about you, but after my first 100 or so battery changes I have become slightly better at it

That's done it, now my character will end up blind after becoming addicted to "Recharging"

It's an excuse to try something new. I remember when I first tried enchanting I was nervous. I had no idea what I was doing. Thought the displayed value of the item, after I was done choosing the enchantments, was what I had to pay to create it.
I even canceled the enchantment process the first few times because I didn't want to pay that much for an enchanted item!

Yep. They have narrowed the number of ways you can do a single thing big time with Skyrim. It's started to really annoy me because I have to break character in order to do certain things. Sure I can use some shout to avoid fall damage, but I should be able to find some magical boots that allow big falls or train athletics, or cast a spell to feather fall, or do it a number of ways that fit the particular role I'm playing at the time.

I used to defend Bethesda when they took out spell making because I personally didn't ever use it, but now I have empathy for those who miss it after I found out they removed speed, athletics, acrobatics, unlock feather potions/enchants and a number of other things that limits how I like to play. Then they hoard the CS so I can't fix anything. Makes me want to troll on them.

Could the guys in Oblivion magically recharge your items with their own life force and skill, or were they just charging you 1600 to use a soul gem for you, when you could buy common gems for 500 or whatever and do it your self? Talk about labour costs. No wonder everyone stopped using enchanters and now do it themselves. If you could fill your car's tank for ￡50, or pay ￡160 for someone else to fill it, how long would that practice last until it was consigned to history?

Is it really that hard to simply assume that when you buy and use a soul gem, it is actually the trader that does the charging...even though you are in your equipment menu you can always imagine that there is someone else doing the charging...roleplaying does require some imagination and stretching the visuals somewhat, otherwise you simply have to go with LARP or you will never be satisfied.