FYI: those aren't Skyrim mods. MIght as well drudge up a modlist page from the Batman game at this point... you're really reaching here in order to justify your prejudices.

-Loth

I lost an argument here about a year ago about the FCOM family vs body mods. IIRC, I came up with around 900k unique(-ish) downloads for FCOM and friends. The other guy came up with almost twice that for the most popular body mod. We used stats from the nexus, megaupload, mediafire, file planet, pes, etc. There was a fair amount of error potential, but I had to concede defeat. The interesting thing was that the numbers surpassed Todd Howard's stats for the total number of PC units sold, especially when you factor in that a large percent of people probably didn't use both mods. But most of us already knew his numbers were bogus (and no, there weren't that many pirated copies).

Anyway, it's just one of those things. We already know that six sells (look at commercials, games, book covers, etc.), and even if a million people want a more hardcoe, balanced game, there will be more that want T&A. What really blows me away is that something like the UOP wasn't number one. That's essentially a quantitative metric for irrationality.

Skyrim's UI is designed to work well with a console controller. Most of Bethesda's customers are console players, so that's what they went with. Designing a UI isn't a trivial thing, and having to have two substantially different versions of the game would be a major hassle. Would it be better if they designed an awesome mouse and keyboard friendly UI and left the console users out in the cold? At least the PC users have the tools to fix it.

Another thing to keep in mind is that "better" is subjective. That's one of the big draws of mods, you can pick and choose exactly what you like (whether its a better UI, briast physics, or swearing mudcrabs.) I'm sure if people had to pick between a game that had, say, the top 20 most popular mods from the last release built in, but no more modding support, and a game that fully supported mods and came with the developer kit, they'd pick the ability to mod.

Pretty much this,
I have a majorly modded out Morrowind on my other PC. The graphics compare to Oblivion and there is about 1000 hours of gameplay and quests to explore now. Also the Main Quest is insanely harder, where you have to be atleast lvl 75+ to beat it now.

Ok, history never repeats itself. As much as i'd like wait 2-4 years to prove you wrong, its just not possible.

You're right, Lothario. People would never use advlt mods to "enhance" their expirience. I don't know what I was thinking trying to say otherwise. I'm sorry I even brought it up.

this ^^

Easy Mods let you fix wha tyou think is broken, and add in things to make you game better.

Numbers doesn't mean anything. Over a million downloaded a "nvde" mod. So what? What's your peanut brain assuming?

Now, now... let's play nice. I'm not attacking you, I'm just saying that making a blanket assumption that we are all DLing texture mods to pleasure ourselves in our darkened prison cells might be incorrect. For example, I don't have nudity in my game... I could... but I don't. It's cold in Skyrim, dude! How are you gonna run around in the snow with a fur bikini and not freeze your tuckus off?

-Loth

I'm just stating the facts, if the most downloaded mod is a nudie mod, even someone with a peanut brain (someone such as myself, apparently) can safely say that people like to see nakedness in their Elder Scrolls. Moreso than anything that actually adds actual gameplay.

Also, was peanut brain really neccesary?

There are also other numbers, I never played Oblivion much, but looking at Skyrim, Fallout 3, and Fallout New Vegas, it looks like each one has about 10 advlt type mods in their Nexus top 100. Thats 10%, not 90%. If 90% of the mods in the top 100 were nvde mods, I'd say you have a point. But 10%?

Okay all of you console users that think mods are a waste of time.
I want you to nip over to the mods section here on the forums and have a brief glance at some of the release and proposed threads.

Now tell me in all honesty there's nothing there that you think "that would be good"

Arguments done yet?


edit - how'd this manage to get into a two page topic on nvde mods anyway?

Is it really necessary to discuss the compelling novelty of a nvde mod?

Correction - nudity is simply something people actually agree they want. However, the number of mutually-incompatible Gameplay tweaks are far more loved. Also, nudity patches are less likely to end up breaking the game. They are also "Advertised" more, because of the number of mods built for compatibility with them. When browsing mods, you're more likely to check out the "Base" mod that dozens of mods are built from than a single unique mod.

I only just found out about the Unnecessary Violence mod for Oblivion... I'm going to need to get a new computer so I can use it!

http://youtu.be/60sn_8qXsTA

This is why

Puritanism. Its spectre haunts our nation still, and may continue to do so for many years to come.

-Loth

Because modding is awesome, there are some really talented modders that make some of the best stuff for games, including quests, armor, weapons, ect. More content = more fun.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/imageshare/images/213145-1324328110.jpg

Not always cold over there.....:3

this

Haha -- you, sir, are a sinner.

-Loth

PS Let's not forget the hot springs south of Windhelm... and the bathers relaxing there. I concede to your point, and I'd also like to add that you are good at taking screenshots. Nice work. Is that Forsworn outfit from the "Amazing" mod series?

Oh, Lothario you're so cool and edgy!

This wasn't so hard to admit, was it? The six smileys prove your sincerity! We are now BFFs.

-Loth

PS You forgot "awesome", but I'll forgive you this one time.

All modding is good for is making the game specifically the way you want it. Within the constraints of what is possible in modding anyways.

It is basically customizing the game to suit your needs.

I am using hordes of mods that add weapons(Jaysus Swords and Weapons of the Third Era), a few armors(Lore friendly armors), some texture packs(, some stability and performance enhancers, some character enhancement mods(XCE and better eyebrows or something), balancing mods, and I think thats it. Texture mods are a pretty big amount of my mods.

This pretty much describes my modlist as well, although I am also running Weapon Fixes/Lost Art of the Blacksmith/Smithing Perk Fixes. The Balanced Magic mod is also a very nice piece of work, and will probably stay in there forever, unless somebody ever makes something better.

-Loth

I THINK it's this http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=3320 However that not my screenshot it's one of my friends so can't be 100%.