Well, personally I don't have a clue on why do you think they marketed it dishonestly, because Bethesda has never ever said it was a cloth map, some people made the assumption, and even some retailers did, and it spread like fire, but BGS never mentioned a cloth map to begin with. So the people you've talked to are missinformed, not the dev's faut, it's their own fault for not looking at right info.

You are wrong, those who unbox the game tell their map feels like cloth, but it's paper. They got the premium map, because the premium map is just that.

This is amongst the whiniest, most nit-picky things I have ever heard. Is this really worth a heated discussion?

It’s a map, just a little map that comes with the game. When you go to buy a burger do you throw a hissy fit if you’re not fond of the brand of ketchup they offer you? You’re buying Skyrim for Skyrim, if there hadn’t been any physical map in the first place nobody would have made a fuss about it.

All copies of the game come with a map. Pre-order and get a slightly nicer map. I’m sure that either way the premium map won’t be the second ascension of Talos, but it’ll be a slight improvement on the regular map as a little bonus for those who pre-order, a little “thank you”.

How such an inconsequential thing has devolved into this mess of confusion and internet-yelling I cannot fathom. I think a few people really need to re-evaluate the importance they put on these things; get a little perspective.

Many people, including me, will want to frame the map, so if it's nicer than the normal map, it will look more awesome in whatever room it is.

You know the one thing I would like to see?, is people stop referring to it as a "cloth" map, or even "burlap" when "imitation burlap" is the correct description, it's thick paper with texture embossed burlap feel, burlap is sack material, we've already been told the map "feels" like sack material.

If you do not have a clue I suggest you scroll up and read my argument . I made it pretty clear. However, if you are trying to state that you disagree with my position, that's a different matter. In that case we can agree to disagree. I believe you're correct that the fault that misinformation was spread is not entirely the dev's fault. Retailers have posted information that was clearly wrong-- an example of which has been posted in this thread. But, the developers-- if that's what you want to call Bethesda's marketing branch have a responsibility to make sure information is correct and clear on all fronts, in my opinion. You're assuming I didn't do my research, and you're welcome to do so, I suppose.

I believe your second paragraph is responding to the wrong quote.

Edit: Nice avatar by the way. You should read the books, they're much better than HBO's adaptation. Although, the tv series is a respectable contribution.


I agree!

Well, I was not attempting to be disrespectful (if that's the correct word, English is not my native language), I was merely ponting at the fact that people got it wrong, whatever the case, you may be right, and BGS's ''marketing branch'' should have made clear what the map was made of to all retailers.
Off topic: I've read the 1st book and I loved it, looking forward the second one, have to buy it 1st.

Bethesda has never advertised a "cloth map".

http://corybuckley.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/burlap.jpg

i ordered that ages ago didnt realise it came with a large map

The map in the unboxing vids is the "premium map"
http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/status/130281584535412736
There is no cloth map, as has been stated by numerous posters.

Pete said he wanted to frame his too but never got back with someone on Twitter that I saw with the dimensions. I might like to do that too; posters are framed all the time so if anyone hears, let us know about the dimensions.

Standard Edition gets a paper map, like the Oblivion GOTYE, it's the Collectors Edition that gets a 'Synthetic Burlap Material' map.

Standard Edition as a pre-order, indeed gets a premium map!! Or the "Synthetic Brulap Material Map" as you call it.

Also it was previously mentioned, don't have reference, that after pre-orders.... 'some' standard editions *may* have the premium map in them as well.

saw unboxing of COLLECTOR'S EDITION on ign; map WAS NOT cloth, just stupid PAPER

I did think it was a cloth map simply from the description when purchasing my pre-order on Oz Game Shop who list it as a "premium cloth map".

http://www.ozgameshop.com/pc-games/the-elder-scrolls-v-5-skyrim-game-plus-premium-cloth-map-pc

After reading this thread, I am thinking they must have simply misconstrued what it actually is as well, though it definitely isn't just a high quality paper looking at the image below. Like has been said by others, I would think it is some kind of synthetic material that feels a bit like burlap and has similar material properties allowing it to flex like cloth instead of looking like creased paper.

http://game-preorders.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/skyrim-collectors-edition.jpg

I don't really care either way, will be nice to stick on the wall beside my PC as a reference for when I'm playing and that's about it

Cheers,

Craig

There's never been a cloth map. There was a "premium map" that people started calling cloth for some reason.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/70840/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-collectors-edition-unboxed

^^ That don't look like a cloth map to me. (This is for those who can't read and keep saying CE gets a cloth map.)

We'll know when the pre-orders arrive. Burlap or cloth, we'll definitely know by then, right?

It is the cloth like material they promised, however its utter crap, it gets creases like paper... their synthetic burlap turned out more like construction paper.

Really? So the awesomeness of a burlap map isn't even special to the CE anymore? That really makes it even more worth the 150 bucks......

Not this again... Okay, boys and girls, time for my daily map quest!

There is no cloth map, and no version or edition of the game comes with a cloth map. Period. The cloth is a lie--a wildfire rumor started by anxious gamers misinterpreting every tiny piece of information that came their way. Sad, but true.

The truth of the matter is that there are two maps--one standard and one premium. As of Pete's last words on the matter, all initial copies of the game will be shipped with the premium map inside the game. These premium maps are not cloth, but a synthetic burlap-like material. Without putting too fine a point on it, expect "initial copies" to mean pre-orders and first-runs. If you don't pre-order Skyrim or choose to wait for your purchase until after the initial copies have sold out, you will be getting a standard map. The standard map, like the maps that came with Oblivion and Morrowind, are regular glossy paper maps.

So to restate the facts:

I. There is no cloth map.
II. There is a premium map made of a synthetic burlap-like material.
III. The premium map will be available to pre-orders and initial copies of the game.
IV. There is a standard map made of regular paper.
V. The standard map will be available after the initial copies of the game have been sold.
VI. Pre-orders of both the standard and collector's editions of the game will receive a premium map--there is no special collector's edition map.
VII. All of the maps--premium or standard--will be shipped inside the game packaging.
VIII. There is no cloth map.

I believe you'll receive both a premium map and a standard paper map with pre-order. That includes CE and the standard pre-order. Sorry if someone already mentioned this.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1204159-premium-map-with-pre-order-of-skyrim/page__view__findpost__p__17961545

....Crap I woulda just bought it on Steam

It doesn't stop any of you from making one. In fact an extremely talented dude made one out of leather already. That beats any print a machine poops out.