Any living characters from oblivion beside ma'iq in skyrim?

Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:56 pm

Are there any people from the Oblivion game in Skyrim?

-I know Sindarion's corpse is in a ruin
-Do they explain Ma'iq's long life span?
-The dawnstar museum guy is related to a char in Ob

I think it would be cool!
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Jeffrey Lawson
 
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:36 am

Ma'iq the Liar is descended from his father, grandfather, and so on. All their names were Ma'iq the Liar as well.

So his great grandfather or great-great grandfather was in Oblivion and Morrowind.
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Manuela Ribeiro Pereira
 
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:27 pm

You can meet the Champion of Cyrodiil in Skyrim.
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Melis Hristina
 
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:24 pm

You can meet the Champion of Cyrodiil in Skyrim.
That doesn't count!

...Some people roled characters that ignored the Shivering Isles...

Edit: And the Main Quest, for that matter, so... No Champion either...
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:01 pm

Ma'iq the Liar is descended from his father, grandfather, and so on. All their names were Ma'iq the Liar as well.

So his great grandfather or great-great grandfather was in Oblivion and Morrowind.

Says M'aiq..the Liar.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:08 pm

That doesn't count!

...Some people roled characters that ignored the Shivering Isles...

Sorry, but the lore has been decided for you.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:45 pm

miaq saw a mud crab the other day, disgusting creatures....
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Alyesha Neufeld
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:02 am

Sorry, but the lore has been decided for you.
Okay female gamers.

Your Champion grew a [censored], a beard, lost her briasts, and obtained the voice of a Hockey announcer.

Sorry, the lore says so.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:33 am

Okay female gamers.

Your Champion grew a [censored], a beard, lost her briasts, and obtained the voice of a Hockey announcer.

Yup. But it doesn't bother me when I see what my character turned into.

Whether you like it or not, when Bethesda moves on to the next game, they have to set the lore in stone. Just because you don't like it, that doesn't mean it's not still lore. Well, at least until Bethesda decided to retconn it in the next game.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:28 pm

Sorry, but the lore has been decided for you.

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It is never stated that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the CoC in Oblivion, though Sheo implies he was present at certain events of the game
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:40 pm

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It is never stated that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the CoC in Oblivion, though Sheo implies he was present at certain events of the game
Thank you.

It's part of the reason why we rarely see anything about the main characters of Elder Scrolls games. Adding them to the lore's history is ignoring the fun the player may have had playing a certain role.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:31 pm

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It is never stated that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the CoC in Oblivion, though Sheo implies he was present at certain events of the game

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Except that is pretty much means that Sheogorath is, in fact, the Champion of Cyrodiil. Seeing as how the only Daedric Prince present at that event was Mehrunes Dagon. So Sheogorath could have only been there in his previous incarnation as the Champion.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:58 pm

Well, speaking of Sheogorath, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Derveninis in the game. In Oblivion, he was the priest of Mania in the Shivering Isles.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dervenin,
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he starts Sheogorath's Quest.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:50 pm

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Except that is pretty much means that Sheogorath is, in fact, the Champion of Cyrodiil. Seeing as how the only Daedric Prince present at that event was Mehrunes Dagon.

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There are easily other reasons imaginable for what Sheogorath says. The mantler could have been another person present at those events. Sheogorath could be speaking metaphorically, he must have been 'present' everywhere in those mad times. Personally for the reason of things not becoming extremely silly, I tend to imagine that the only thing any of the games heroes did was the main quest. The rest may have been done, but possibly by other people.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:12 am

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Plus, the only thing that made the player in Oblivion able to become the new Madgod was the Staff of Sheogorath. Sure, he/she could take the throne and have some of the perks, but they were never made immortal. Running out of health still killed you.

If we MUST assume that the player of Oblivion did EVERYTHING quest-wise, they must have died and new Sheogoraths have just been passed the Staff over the 200 years that have passed between then and Skyrim.

...Am I seriously arguing logic within someone else's fictional lore? :{o~
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:27 pm

More spoilerific goodness

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Doesn't matter what race/gender the person that mantled sheo was. Daedric princes change their form at will. Sheo just tends to favor a scottish bearded man.

Also, daedra can still observe mundus from oblivion. They don't have to actually be there. Chimere Graegyn watched the current events from Caecilly in the void. He's even seen things yet to happen by that time.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:58 am

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Plus, the only thing that made the player in Oblivion able to become the new Madgod was the Staff of Sheogorath. Sure, he/she could take the throne and have some of the perks, but they were never made immortal. Running out of health still killed you.

If we MUST assume that the player of Oblivion did EVERYTHING quest-wise, they must have died and new Sheogoraths have just been passed the Staff over the 200 years that have passed between then and Skyrim.

...Am I seriously arguing logic within someone else's fictional lore? :{o~

Eventually the person who took the role of Sheogorath in Shivering would have become the madgod.
This is a process called mantling or the walking way, where you walk the walk of a god until he must walk like you.
The http://www.imperial-library.info/content/36-lessons-vivec and the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/loveletter-fifth-era-true-purpose-tamriel from the fifth era talk about the walking ways.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:53 pm

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It is never stated that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the CoC in Oblivion, though Sheo implies he was present at certain events of the game
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Except that is pretty much means that Sheogorath is, in fact, the Champion of Cyrodiil. Seeing as how the only Daedric Prince present at that event was Mehrunes Dagon. So Sheogorath could have only been there in his previous incarnation as the Champion.

You guys realize we're talking about Sheogorath, right? The guy who does all sorts of randomly chaotic and whimsical things, primarily to amuse himself.

So instead of
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Sheogorath is the CoC.

you instead have (not really spoiler, but hidden since it implies what was in the prior spoiler)
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One year later, more or less, Sheo returns, saying "Ha ha! Fooled ya! Now, ye didn't really think that you could just walk into a daedric realm and become a daedric lord, just like that? Oh, you did?! That's just wonderful! Even better than I had imagined, and I have a particularly good imagination, if I do say so myself, which I do. Weren't you even the eensy-weensiest bit suspicious when you learned that you didn't really have unlimited daedric power and control over the realm? Ah, mortals! That's why I love you all! Or is that why I love killing you all? No matter ... now get out of my realm. NOW. While I'm still feeling generous. Or you might want to stay and see how long my generosity lasts. That always ends well!"
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:51 pm

Well onto the OP question, you can summon the ghost of a charcter from the Dark Brotherhood, who in Oblivion, was the one who was recruiting back then. Not "technically" alive, still runs around with you making interesting comments about the people around you.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:22 pm

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your pocket protectors are showing
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:22 am

you instead have (not really spoiler, but hidden since it implies what was in the prior spoiler)
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One year later, more or less, Sheo returns, saying "Ha ha! Fooled ya! Now, ye didn't really think that you could just walk into a daedric realm and become a daedric lord, just like that? Oh, you did?! That's just wonderful! Even better than I had imagined, and I have a particularly good imagination, if I do say so myself, which I do. Weren't you even the eensy-weensiest bit suspicious when you learned that you didn't really have unlimited daedric power and control over the realm? Ah, mortals! That's why I love you all! Or is that why I love killing you all? No matter ... now get out of my realm. NOW. While I'm still feeling generous. Or you might want to stay and see how long my generosity lasts. That always ends well!"

Except not a single itty bitty bit of that is implied.

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Furthermore, the Sheogorath in Skyrim expresses personal feelings about the events in Oblivion, which is something his predecessor never hinted towards during the SI expansion. It's also possible the prior Sheogorath did actually 'take those eyes when everything was over' as Skyrim's Sheo has remarkably different eyes to his predecessor. They're pure white, rather than black and yellow. However, by far the most important bit of evidence is the fact that no TES game or expansion has ever had their ending rendered 'non-canon'. Arguing against the PC becoming the Madgod is like trying to prove the Nerevarine never killed Almalexia.

So what if players didn't complete the Shivering Isles. If someone played Morrowind, then Skyrim... does that mean the events of Oblivion never happened?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:50 pm

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your pocket protectors are showing
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Shows how much you know, NERD! My shirt doesn't have pockets!

It has a Pikachu on it.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:09 am

Says M'aiq..the Liar.
And considering how appalled he is that anyone would like to see him naked, it's doubtful he had any chance of reproducing.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:43 pm

And considering how appalled he is that anyone would like to see him naked, it's doubtful he had any chance of reproducing.

First, furries would.

Second, M'aiq's entire ancestery goes back to Khajiit fathers named M'aiq the Liar.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:53 am

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Sheogorath also talks about a fox and a severed head. That's likely a reference to the Grey Fox and the severed head of Mathieu Bellamont. Both of those are events specific to the CoC
Adding to that, he specifically mentions that he was there for the entire Oblivion Crisis. Infer from that what you will, but he basically makes it obvious who he is.

Also, in response to Uumlau, the old sheogorath doesn't exist anymore. He makes it perfectly clear at the end of the Shivering Isles MQ that he's back to his former self as Jyggalag, and won't ever be the Mad God again
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