Sometimes I wonder where is the origin of Cyrodiilic myths.

For example, we know Akatosh landed on Nirn in Ada-mantia. Is this part of myth from the original elven myth as Akatosh is based on Auriel by Alessia, or is it something the Marukhatis added to the original Auriel-defeated-Lorkhan-on-Ada-mantia myth, and the one who truly landed is Shezarr with the name Akatosh?

Ah interesting, thanks.
In that case Aetherius is a problem as Akatosh most certainly did not ascend to that.
Perhaps his words should not be taken literally, but I have no idea how to misinterpret them properly.

So final conclusion ?

It seems to me tha this whole lore thing is made up constantly by Bethesda as they like ....

It's weird now to think of an Elf that become a God turnend into a dragon God for others then is the Anu for other etc ....

Its all messed up ?

Source?


Auriel is Akatosh, inasmuch as two fragments/cultural interpretations are each other (and barring the success of Marukhati ideo-exorcism). http://www.imperial-library.info/content/alduinakatosh-dichotomy http://www.imperial-library.info/content/blessing-talos http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept-letter-4 http://www.imperial-library.info/content/obscure-where-were-you-when-dragon-broke. The only source I know of that implies otherwise is http://www.imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-monomyth.

It's so we can spend endless hours speculating on the truth of the matter.

They probably have a plan or at least an idea of what is what and who is who, but to reveal it all, where's the fun in that?

Yes, but how can Akatosh ascend to Aetherius?

So, Nu-Mantia:
"Auriel-that-is-Akatosh returned to Mundex Arena from his dominion planet, signaling all Aedra to convene at a static meeting that would last outside of aurbic time. [...] that by consent of presence their actions here would last of a period unassailable, and would be so whatever might come later to these spirits, even if they rejoined the aether or succumbed willingly or by treachery to a sithite erasure."
"The powers also created Red Tower and the First Stone. This allowed the Mundus to exist without the full presence of the divine."

Auriel ascends, but is still present by Convention's immutable momenta.

And it's not that they think an elf became a god, Prometheus, but that gods became elves. Or gave birth to them, at least.

Ok, that makes sense I suppose.
The way it was worded in the DLC though..
But Id have to play it again to say anything concrete.

I suppose that's true. Daedric Princes and Daedra in general don't have pointy ears. Men are padomaic and and well, they don't, too. If the Aedra could show themselves to the world in a corporeal form, I'd expect them to have pointy ears.

Some elves did become gods though, and they are (were) worshiped by the Snow Elves.
I remember the priest mentioning Syrabane and Phynaster.

Gods? Perhaps, but I would hazard a guess that the Altmer take hero worship to a whole new level, making the Nords seem rather pale in comparison. These Altmeri figures are no doubt worshiped, but I would say the exact same as they worship anything else.

You can meet some of the Aedra incarnated in Morrowind; I don't remember all of them, but I'm fairly certain none were elves.


I think it's more likely that those were spirits simply closer to the divine all along; not quite Auri-el, but not ever really mortal either. God-ancestors only marginally degenerated.

I haven't played the expansion, but it sounds like they made the Snow Elves have essentially the same pantheon as the Altmer.

I had a feeling that we'd learn more about Auriel in the future. I just didn't think it'd be this soon.

While they think that, evidence points that while they are probably descended from gods, individual elves were not individual gods pre-creation. Otherwise the Heart of Lorkhan would have not turned the Dwemer into divine substance, but turned every one of them into gods. And while it can turn someone into a god, it's not by reversing creation, but taking Lorkhan's power.

I remember Wulf, who am I forgetting?


Which makes me wonder what differences the Falmer had with the Altmer that made them seperate themselves from Summerset. A continents worth of seperation.

I won't get a chance play the DLC yet until its released outside the Xbox, so I'm only going by what limited knowledge I've observed. While there may be some religious differences between the Falmer and Altmer, its possible it could be fundamental on how they treat and view the other races of Tamriel. If I'm not mistaken, they were rather friendly with the Nords prior to smiting the holy hell outta Saarthal. The Al(d)tmer of Summerset would skip just to the smiting.

Doesn't Mara make an appearance somewhere?

As does Zeinthar. Forgot the name of his avatar, but he takes the shape of a Redguard slave.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Jon_Hawker and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ama_Nin.


Where does this 'friendly' thing come from? I don't remember it.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Jon_Hawker, he gave you his gloves in return for a scroll of divine intervention.

Off-topic, no more notifications for being quoted?

Edit: Ninja'd like a slow thing.

As I recall, The Falmer were originally chummy with the Atmorans until they saw how quickly they reproduced/Eye of Magnus.

I thought it was more like they tolerated the "lesser" creatures, rather than outright friendship.


EDIT: Hmmm....

I'm rather behind on the Monkey truth surrounding the eye. Are you saying the Atmorans brought the eye with them?

They were like bunnies.
Not at all related to the Eye.

No, of course not. Masses of elves were individual gods. Conservation of matter applies. To get greater in number, you have to become lesser in size.
The Dwemer turned into substance because they were trying to form a SINGLE god, at the top of the subgradient chain, and failed.