Beths top 10 mods bundle for consoles ?

Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:13 pm

considering some people get defensive on this subject I find it rather sad. why would you share your mods with pc users and not console users. you are giving them free to pc users right? my point is why not give them away free to console users. Its the same game for goodness sake. if you want mods by a pc.. let me ask you this. the next time you upload a mod and a menu appears on your screen asking you to agree (since its beths software your using) in uploading your content it could be used across other formats including ps3 and xbox. would you agree and click yes ?

The problem is that they CANT make money on it, but they “SORTA” have to consent before someone else makes money from it. Microsoft will want to make money on this and will justify it by saying how it will take testers and broadband. The mod maker then will go “Oh no you don’t, I spent money on a new microphone and a ton of my free time if I am not making a dime nor r you”. Beth can shove the EULA in the moders face, but that will be a PR suicide not to mention that that’s a really gray area and when it comes to the law and the moder will have little to lose and much to gain if he/she takes it to court.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:17 pm

considering some people get defensive on this subject I find it rather sad. why would you share your mods with pc users and not console users. you are giving them free to pc users right? my point is why not give them away free to console users. Its the same game for goodness sake.

It's not about the lack of wanting to share. It is about a lack of power from current consoles (they are SEVEN years old for crying out loud) and lack of support from Sony and MicroSoft (so there's every possibility you won't get them next gen either).

It's been beaten to death over and over again. The 360 and PS3 are NOT powerful enough to run many, if not most, of the mods made by users. If you were to try to use therm, there is every possibility that your console would become irreversibly damaged. Also, there are third party programs like script extenders, mod managers, etc. that I'm sure Sony and MicroSoft are extremely iffy (at best) about. Not to mention MicroSoft doesn't seem to like anything free being on the 360. Plus setting up a download system, monitoring it, bug checking, etc etc etc (as has already been mentioned a thousand times) would be very costly.

Consoles are easier to use (plug and play) and generally more secure than PC's, but that ease of use and security comes at a price, and that's being locked into a closed system.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:05 am

Lets pretend Microsoft and Sony got high and said “OK”

Top 5 mods would ruin your game and maybe turn your console into a neat yet bulky paperweight

This. This is the trillionth time this thread has come up - not just for Skyrim, but for Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and NV as well. Mods on a console would not work.The modder would need to stay within the consoles hardware limitations whilst optimizing the mod, not to mention the inevitable incompatibilities, no way to update the mods, lack of access to file structure, and the general closed nature of the consoles. It's critical to have full access to the files whilst modding, as well as full control over whether or not the .esms/.esps are active or not. This way, if something becomes corrupt or broken (which it does) it's very easy to deactivate the mod until a solution can be worked out. There is no way you could ever do something like this on a console.

The only way this would work would be if Bethesda tested each mod as if it were official, gave the modders strict guidelines to stay within console limitations, and most importantly came up with a way to manage the mods' load order. Again, the latter will not/could not happen for the reasons stated above, and thus, mods on the consoles wouldn't work.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:45 pm

It's not about the lack of wanting to share. It is about a lack of power from current consoles (they are SEVEN years old for crying out loud) and lack of support from Sony and MicroSoft (so there's every possibility you won't get them next gen either).

It's been beaten to death over and over again. The 360 and PS3 are NOT powerful enough to run many, if not most, of the mods made by users. If you were to try to use therm, there is every possibility that your console would become irreversibly damaged. Also, there are third party programs like script extenders, mod managers, etc. that I'm sure Sony and MicroSoft are extremely iffy (at best) about. Not to mention MicroSoft doesn't seem to like anything free being on the 360. Plus setting up a download system, monitoring it, bug checking, etc etc etc (as has already been mentioned a thousand times) would be very costly.

i dont know about the play station but i know the xbox will be able to handle 60% of the mods i am running. Granted i am running only about 15 at the moment. They wouldn’t be able to run the badass top 20, but personal tweaks that improve gameplay would work.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:11 pm

Im sure assasins creed revelations have a server outside of psn that you can dl free content why cant beth..
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:19 pm

EDIT- Mods on consoles wont happen.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:00 am

EDIT- Mods on consoles wont happen.
Glad you changed that....
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:15 am

Lol do you guys here this guy?

So your saying console players complain about pcs more than you pc players diss us console players. Hell, you were the first one to even mention being superior to console players in this thread, and no one was even discussing that. And that "save 15 dollars a week thing" is stupid. You think it's easy like that? Some people actually dont have their mommies help them buy a game rig or have it easy as you make it sound like. I have to buy groceries, children's needs, school, ect. I speak for many when I say this.

We get it, pc is superior then console in many ways, but can we go one day, just one day without snobby people like you calling us poor stupid youths who can't afford a pc? Just one dude. Just one.

[censored]. For the pc players who don't parade around their rig and diss us console players, I thank you, and so do many other console players.
Lol do you guys here this guy?

So your saying console players complain about pcs more than you pc players diss us console players. Hell, you were the first one to even mention being superior to console players in this thread, and no one was even discussing that. And that "save 15 dollars a week thing" is stupid. You think it's easy like that? Some people actually dont have their mommies help them buy a game rig or have it easy as you make it sound like. I have to buy groceries, children's needs, school, ect. I speak for many when I say this.

We get it, pc is superior then console in many ways, but can we go one day, just one day without snobby people like you calling us poor stupid youths who can't afford a pc? Just one dude. Just one.

[censored]. For the pc players who don't parade around their rig and diss us console players, I thank you, and so do many other console players.

So because I can afford 15 a week I must have my mommy helping me. Lol I am married, My wife and I have 4 kids, we just purchased our first home. It's 4 bedroom 2 bath on 6.8 acres of land in the country. We still have $15 a week extra Shocker I know.

This generation has an entitlement problem. You didn't buy the game for the platform that you yourself said is too expensive. Yet you feel entitled too what the people who did pay the money have. It don't work like that. Not in anything in life. Not just games.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:30 pm

For the consolers here,it's got to do with game development with todays engines,it's coming to a point where developers are chopping or retarding the games to keep running on the current console platforms,they have optimized,tweaked as best as they can but an upgrade wall is approaching and it's way too overdue,thats why alot of pc guys are angus,not at you the user but the blatant continuation of old out of date tech the 2 big guys have shackled the world to.

If i'm wrong then flame away,i don't mind being corrected
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:06 pm

Im sure assasins creed revelations have a server outside of psn that you can dl free content why cant beth..

You are avoiding all the issues for some reason. Beth has no mods, players have mods. So Beth will need to contact each mod maker individualy and ask, considering that some mods are made by a dozen or so people this can get really irritating. Then there is the testing, they won’t want to give you a mod that will fry your console so they need testers (Something Beth rarely implements). After all this they will need to side step Microsoft/Sonny which is not a particularly good business decision. All this for zero $$$...???
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:24 am

the only downside is that new mods will replace old ones
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:43 pm

Yeah consoles really hold down pc's, all games that are released of consoles and pc will always be made to fit on console disks...
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:01 pm

While I doubt it will happen, I would really appreciate mods being available on the console.

Ignoring the technology limitations, mods would be a great addition to skyrim and really get a hardy thanks out of us console gamers.

However I fully understand that console aren't expensive rigs and aren't up to date. As a previous member cleverly stated, I'll use my imagination.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:36 pm

Whatever dude. Say what you will I can't change your opinion.

I don't care about how much land you own and [censored]. Hell, you parade about your house as much as your pc. What's next, how big your dike is?

I'm done talking with you.

Your way too hostile man. Lol
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:27 am

While I doubt it will happen, I would really appreciate mods being available on the console.

Ignoring the technology limitations, mods would be a great addition to skyrim and really get a hardy thanks out of us console gamers.

However I fully understand that console aren't expensive rigs and aren't up to date. As a previous member cleverly stated, I'll use my imagination.

I wish all the others understand it as you do...
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:56 am

Maybe if Bethesda took a few select mods, likely ones remaining within canon, and refined them to the proper standards, just maybe we might see them on consoles. But I'm not getting my hopes up, no matter how much I would love to have access to CK mods.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:58 pm

Your way too hostile man. Lol

i was like him once, then i got the CK.

and now.... :banana: :bunny: :banana:
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:59 am

I'm sure they wouldn't mind. It would mean more boasting that they are superior than us console phesents (or so many call us since we can't afford a decent gaming computer). I mean this with humor guys, don't get angry over it.

Really though, I'm sure they wouldn't mind letting us console players admire their hard work. However, Sony and Microsoft don't allow 3rd party content and so on so Bethesda would probably have to make their own versions of popular mods made by modders and release it that way.
This.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:35 am

Maybe if Bethesda took a few select mods, likely ones remaining within canon, and refined them to the proper standards, we still wont see them on consoles.

fixed
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:58 pm

You are avoiding all the issues for some reason. Beth has no mods, players have mods. So Beth will need to contact each mod maker individualy and ask, considering that some mods are made by a dozen or so people this can get really irritating. Then there is the testing, they won’t want to give you a mod that will fry your console so they need testers (Something Beth rarely implements). After all this they will need to side step Microsoft/Sonny which is not a particularly good business decision. All this for zero $$$...???

they could patch in an agreement onto the creation kit website asking modders to agree for there work to be possibly considered across multi formats.

look im not talking massive graphic overhauls or whatever just a few cool mods that would be in the same range as say the dlc. Like if someone created a small village or added a stronghold or something.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:13 am



i was like him once, then i got the CK.

and now.... :banana: :bunny: :banana:

XD

Your evil I tell you. EVIL!!!
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:53 pm

Man, you console gamer's are really optimistic!
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:30 am


This.

I know this if off topic, but mammoth cheese is actually bitter but is known for its healing powers.

I read it while staying at the inn in Solitude :P
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:58 am

I would rather have acess to the console commands for hot fixes.I believe Two Worlds 2 had something along those lines.(could be wrong happens now and again)
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:31 am

they could patch in an agreement onto the creation kit website asking modders to agree for there work to be possibly considered across multi formats.

look im not talking massive graphic overhauls or whatever just a few cool mods that would be in the same range as say the dlc. Like if someone created a small village or added a stronghold or something.

That is exactly the kind of an agreement they made for the workshop and that is why some moders are avoiding it. Some of the simplest mods can cause conflicts and will need testing/cleaning/sorting. The ultimate problem is that it will take Beth a lot of work and they won’t want to do it for free, but if they charge the mod makers will want a slice and all hell will break loose.
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