Well I dont buy games outside of Bethesda,paradox,and Rockstar.

Skyrim is my favorite because you can do whatever you want. I'll always love TES games

The original fallouts (not made by Bethesda) are some of the coolest rpgs made (dated, but still good). Bethesda has taken the license in a somewhat new direction with their own flavor to things, but kept much of humor and atmosphere intact.

What can you do? Can you build a town no lets think smaller a house? Can you interact and get to know more about the NPC who share your space? Sure all that if you're the one making it. In other TES games it was already there and you could add more but didn't have to. Pretty sure the only thing they provided for you in Sykrim is walk around in a big sparse kind of pretty area. I guess if that's what you want to do....... There is a super old game that's way bigger and looks even better, it's call go drive in the country.

So it seems Fallout is pretty good. I like more current games because if it's too dated, I just have a hard time getting into it. Would you suggest Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas? I'll also take a look at Dark Souls and The Witcher 2. Like I said, I'm rather ignorant to many games.

Of course not. the backlash is happening even now.
It will take time for those silly investors to catch up with reality but judging by consumer reviews, which without exception mark Skyrim as shallow, the backlash is already here.
And you know what reviews by professional reviewers mean to me? I would rather they still printed them, thats what they mean to me, so I could put them to use.
Never trust anything payed to be written.

I would recommend both Fallout 3 and NV both are amazing games.

You have a very strange way of judging games. You know, I like to judge a game by its gameplay and not whether I can kill a specific character at any time I choose.



Never trust anything posted on the internet either. I have said it many times and I will say it many more times, everyone I know personally who has played Skyrim has loved it. And that's about 20 some people, with most of them owning it and playing it often. Aside from this group of "classic rpg'ers" and the PS3 crowd who is getting the lag, it's pretty much universally popular. So no, their is no real "backlash" and nothing will change. The sales are great, the awards are great, and the "investors" realize that nothing can be claimed as true on the internet and most people who play games don't waste their time reviewing it on the internet. Just sayin'.

Edit: I'm not saying I want less depth or anything, I'm just acknowledging the fact that nothing will change. And also that Skyrim is one of the greatest games of all time.

I hope they add depth and more games to the RPG market. It's by far the best genre out there in the world of games, also the title stand the test of time, while other titles do not, heck I still play Final Fantasy and Star Ocean and Parasite Eve, along with Oblivion I would play Morrowind had some idiotic moron not stolen both my copies. I hope that we get good quality RPGs soon and not these watered down RPGs that we have been getting lately.

gameplay makes he has a very good point.
If this was a TES game, in the spirit of TES games, instead of an i-win simulator, you would be able to kill Ulfric.
But you cant, because it is decided for you that you cannot, ever. Even though hell never see a dragon.
La-ame.
Im really really sorry, but I will have to follow others when they say we will never see a good TES game again until the current people at the reigns finally give up mutilating it and move on to another cash-cow.

I know the purists may not like this, but I wonder if an open world rpg set in Tolkien's Middle Earth would work out? Could be interesting.

Well, it's not my thing, but there was an LOTR mmo already.. which is open in it's own sort of way. It was good by mmo standards.

I don't think LOTR is the best setting for open-ness though. There's a beginning and end to that story. There's a fellowship and a handful of those predetermined by Tolkien who can truly change the world. Open-ness requires true player agency. Not just playing a small part in the setting.

Reckoning looks promising. Boasts an open world, has a very good author writing the story/lore, and the game plays like a silly Gauntlet Legends type of action-- however the skill trees are very deep and looks like you can create some very interesting builds.

Dragon Age: Origins is almost equal to "Skyrim"!

I couldn't get into DA:O unfortunately, way too linear for me.

I don't think DAO was even close to linear in the story, for sure. Linearity in the game maps, I guess.. but Skyrim doesn't offer anything like the options you had to interact and make moral choices and deal with consequences. By the end of it, you could place all kind of different people in power, or yourself, change the fate of different races, etc..

Skyrim is even more linear, you know.

Yeah, I guess you're right. I suppose I was just looking for some sort of fantasy open world RPG that includes elves, dwarves, and all sorts of monster goodness. It seems so many rpgs today are stripped down to being a Dragon Age 2 sort of rpg which I felt was more of an expansion pack dolled up to look like a standalone game. What I want out of an RPG is an open world with lots to explore and where my choices in the game make a real impact on the storyline.

As far as a blank slate character, it's almost impossible to have a truly blank slate character. You'd have to start a character from birth to death. Anything short of that will have some kind of backstory or "baggage" so you just learn to work with it.

Warhammer online

He didn't mean the story, but the play space. Which was pretty linear.

Sorry I didn't elaborate. I meant linear in what I can explore and where I can go. Yeah, DA:O's story and dialogue options completely blows Skyrim out of the water, but the old "you cannot go here because of this rock" drives me totally nuts.

This is true.

I think a combination of both games would be sweet.

I think Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning could at least make a decent effort. I don't know though, I'm always skeptic of random games like that.

I played the demo, it was a lot of fun. It plays like a goofy arcade-type Gauntlet Legends, but the talent tree (skill system) is really deep and looks like you can create some crazy builds. There's also a good author writing the story/lore.

So did I, I feel it's pretty well done gameplay-wise, and it made me want to kill some more Fae.
The storyline itself is interesting and I'd like to know more, which is why I listed it.

I feel it's going to be a good game.