Um, no. Knight of the Night is not the same as Dawnguard.

1. Dawnguard affects your whole game. Werewolf, vampire, encounters, new falmer, smithing. You can not even touch Dawnguard and its changing your game. Hours and hours in oblivion, I only heard about Knight of the Nine. It did not affect the game at all. It offers a totally different way to play the whole game if you go VL. Gameplay is changed.

2. NPCs, much more interesting in Dawnguard. Much more than Knights of the Nine.

3. New areas. Alot more in Dawnguard.

4. More interesting story.

I can't even see how people can compare them. Sure Dawnguard isnt SI and it was never meant to be. But, to compare it to Knight of the Nine is knocking it down too far.

It was worth 20$.

This is a positive step in Bethseda dlc.

Almost all of Fallout dlc doesnt effect the main game (not including weapon packs.). It's its own area, in what might as well be its own world. It changes nothing in the main game. Broken Steel did. Lonesome Road, kind of. But, more the main game affected that dlc.

SI spoiled you guys and I doubt any Skyrim DLC will come close to it.

read the thread.

It's not directly comparing the two DLCs, it's comparing the style - KotN took place in the vanilla oblivion world, whereas shivering isles didn't. So therefore DG is the KotN of skyrim. See?

read the thread.

It's not directly comparing the two DLCs, it's comparing the style - KotN took place in the vanilla oblivion world, whereas shivering isles didn't. So therefore DG is the KotN of skyrim. See?

NO, KOTN did not add new mechanics (While dawnguard added a bunch), it added a faction quest line, everything thing in dawnguard has more then KOTN (Example, dawnguard has like 10 new armor sets while knights of the 9 has 2), if we compare it to anything, we compare it to f3 Broken steel, albeit way larger.

It's not directly comparing the two DLCs, it's comparing the style - KotN took place in the vanilla oblivion world, whereas shivering isles didn't. So therefore DG is the KotN of skyrim. See?

Horse armor also took place in the vanilla world, so is Dawnguard the Horse Armor of Skyrim?

Even going with what you are saying. (Which is looking at it very basic.)

Knights of the Nine = Dawnguard. Reason: Both take part on vanilla map.

You're ignoring that - Knights of the Nine basically only did that. While Dawnguard does many things, which happen to include being on the vanilla map.

And yes some people have said it's not worth 20$, because it's basically Knights of the Nine. Ignoring, again, all the things it does is far above what Knights of the Nine did.

It's an unfair statement. Just pass off how the title reads, you are asking people to see Dawnguard on the same level as Knights of the Nine.

That was the only point I was trying to make.

And it's one I fully share. It's just the OP was using the comparison in the very loose sense I stated (if my brain serves me well...). If you were setting some misguided individual straight, I apologise for my snarkiness.

We'll just chalk this up along the lines of duels, affectable economies and complex NPC relationships amiright?

this. and even then dawnguard feels just as big, if not bigger

I can't understand where the **** some of you guys are coming from, regarding dlc-content and price comparison!?!?!

Look at it this way: the $60 i spent on the game itself has; so far given me 250+ hours of AWESOME gaming time.
Every other $60 game out there gives me aprox. 10% of that in total, meagre game time.

I would gladly pay another 60 bucks for horsearmor, and double of that for Dawnguard!

There is NO OTHER game out there, which gives you even close to the same amount of value for money, so stop your incensible nagging!

Please Bethesda; I would donate almost all of my money; just keep making content, and don't listen to these morons!

You'd pay $60 for horse armor and $120 for Dawnguard? wow...

Yeah, because they deserve it!

Skyrim in itself is worth at least 4 regular AAA-games, and if they launched it at 4 times the price, I would have still pre-ordered it, and gladly payed the money.
Even if I had to forgo dinner the next 3 months...