I could care less about waiting 30 days for a DLC , not because there will be bug fixes when it releases to other platforms(This is Bethesda we're dealing with) but because im not that impatient , but completely ignoring the entire PS3 community who are also consumers of Bethesdas product ( wether they remember or not ) is just pathetic.
I feel PS3 players get shafted simply because Bethesda is too busy getting on their knees for Microsoft. I ( and many others ) will just wait until the GOTY edition is is around the 20-30 mark.

Out of curiosity , how much would a DECENT gaming desktop cost (in pounds) ? ones that are powerful enough to play games like Skyrim on high settings?

-S

You're so impatient to share your anger and frustration against beth,ms etc. that you haven't even read my post accurately

The exclusivity is of at least one month,but they're free of relese the dlc when they want,even one year later and no one can force them to give you any information about the release date etc. for your platform,bear that in mind

Assumed that,as i've said before i'm confident that when the 30 days are expired -it means 26 july if i'm not wrong - beth could feel free to share informations with their fans on dawnguard ps3 pc version
A bit of patience,i've waited almost like you due to the european version problems (italy) when i was supposed to play dawnguard on 26 june

I understand your reasons,but silence doesn't automatically means that someone don't care for something,bear that in mind

Say whaa? That's by default? If they aren't going to release a high res pack separately some people might get a bit annoyed by that.

Edit: Ah, thought you were talking about the Dawnguard DLC in your post. Never mind.

I paid 830 euros for mine,You need to convert it to pounds yourself, My flash player keeps crashing so I can't convert

And im running ultra/high at 1680x1050 with Enhanced distant terrain,Enhanced blood textures,Skyrim HD 2k Textures,Better dynamic snow,Sharpshooters Extreme Graphics Vision ENB at 40-50 FPS, If you want a constant 60+ fps I'd except to shell out a little more on the graphics card(I have an XFX radeon HD6870)

The game is gorgeous with ultra+ those mods, I could lower some settings to spare some FPS.. But it's not worth it

Cicero, I'm not impatient or angry, frustrated yes I admit to that. Not because the content is withheld, as I'll say for the umpteenth time, but because of the silence from Beth regarding the whole affair.

I'm one of the lucky few that have the three platforms Skyrim is on, I've also stated on the previous post which was closed after 8 pages that I could download Dawnguard right now on Xbox, problem is, that version is screwed beyond playable for me, and I'm using a new shape black Xbox 250GB drive version not the older model, it's my opinion the game is too demanding for the hardware on consoles. I've noticed a change in the Xbox game from the release version to the 1.6 update and the game is in worse shape for me now than at the start, they fixed most of the quest bugs and screwed the playability up so much I bought it on PC in order to play it without continual freezing/load screen crashes.

You are right in saying silence does not mean Beth don't care, but a lot of posters may tend to disagree. Silence infers a non caring attitude, if you left a car in for maintenance for instance and had no reply as to the progress on repairs you couldn't be blamed for thinking the mechanic didn't care, could you?

Think it about like a NDA as Bethesda is unable to give any concrete information until the 30 days are up. Expect to see some news about it by maybe Friday and then the DLC to be out either this Tuesday (at least for PC) or by the Tuesday after.

Hmm so thats around ￡650 ? to be honest i expected it to be more than that haha , thanks

I first got into the Elder Scrolls games with Oblivion. I loved it. When Skryim came out...i was amazed. I am NOT a huge gamer. To be honest...i dont even know what a mod, or mods, are. lol.

The reason i am so frustrated is not because of the 30 day exclusivity with Microsoft, it is due to the lack of communication. I am fully aware that Beth is not required to issue any kind of statement regarding any other console release dates, however, it is upsetting that they dont have the customer service skills to keep the pc/ps3 players happy with at least some words of encouragement. I have actually emailed beth 5 times, asking if there is any talks of releasing the game to other platforms...and i got no response. I wasnt even asking for a date. Just looking for some hope. I understand how business works...i just find it odd that Beth would not issue any kind of statement to the other platform users. I know that i would do everything in my power to keep all the customers happy.

For instance...maybe a statement along the lines of "Dawnguard WILL be released to PS3/PC. At this time, we are not able to share any dates"

Now honestly...is that asking too much?

I dont think so.

The thing that really pisses me off about the exclusive is how support for Skyrim just stopped. Nothing for over a month is just unacceptable for a game, and dlc that need quite a bit of fixing. I just hope that Bethesda wasn't sitting on their asses this whole time, and they've been working on a huge patch. If it's the former and not the latter then Bethesda will go on the same list as Creative Assembly of companies to never support.

A car not repaired could put an end to someone's life,we are talking about a simple videogame here,a game that no one have forced you to buy

You have the option to play the game for each of the three platforms and you still make post like this ?
Good luck for all sincerely,for your problems with the 360 version we have a dedicated section on this forum if i'm not wrong

For the "silence" - well, read above

Zeni just talked down 360 as "not able to hold up to a PC" and that "we kept TES:O PC exclusive so we can make a higher quality, bigger scale game." Bethesda has always held that the Xbox versions of their game were the best (rofl), even as far back as MW. Bribery is bribery, and Beth actually takes money to do marketing on top of accepting DLC delay bribes. Meanwhile Zeni is free to say anything they want.



Yeah, Rockstar actually took money from MS to lock down their game as part of integrating GFWL. They're getting better these days though. Mostly. MP3 looked terrific compared to its "outdated" variants.

Remember: Microsoft probably offered Bethesda big bucks to cancel the CK. Buying 360 games does the same thing to gaming what buying nothing but McDonalds food does to your health.

Bethesda has never said that as it is up to the person's preference. I don't doubt that there are employees who like the Xbox version better and their employees that like the PC version better.

This isn't bribery, this is a business transaction in order to increase sales. Cell phone providers also get exclusive deals, but no one is complaining about that. This is for 30 days, do people really have nothing better to do than complain over waiting for 30 DAYS?

Learn to understand what the difference between a business and actual bribery.

Also, Bethesda isn't working on TES:O, Zenimax Online is, so not sure how any of that is relevant and that is just PC, so it sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

Nope. The official stance in every interview I've read is "get the Xbox (insert version here) version," even for Morrowind. And Morrowind Xbox has hundreds of unfixed bugs and a UI that was designed around mouse pointers. I'd link the GI issue but that would be against the rules.

And no, I haven't contradicted myself. The other company is part of Zeni too, which means that all of the Microsoft bribery is done at the Bethesda level and Zenimax has nothing to do with it.

You just did again. Zenimax OWNS Bethesda not the other way around, so Bethesda doesn't actually do anything.
Most likely, Zenimax basically auctions up the right to exclusive deals and Microsoft was the one to purchase these temporary right.

Are you bribing someone by giving them money in exchange for a good so another person doesn't get it? No, would be the correct answer. Sure, it isn't "nice" but this is a business, not some small child.

Why do you think it won't be released to the pc and ps3? From the very beginning the statement was


If the dlc will be released for the 360 before it's available anywhere else, that leaves it released for pc and ps3 as well, just at a later point in time. It would be rather pointless to release the dlc for platforms that game doesn't support. They tend to not officially state a date until they know they will make that date.

If he is talking about what I think he is, one of the devolopers mentioned that they havnt talked about release on any other platforms. It was some twitter nonsense.

Probably because Bethesda has adamantly refused to acknowledge the existence of it in all their recent communications. They've stuck with the line of "We haven't announced Dawnguard for any other platforms". Most people would expect a reasonable marketing statement to be something like "The DLC will be coming to other platforms at a later date" or "We have no concrete details right now, but stay tuned". Something to encourage their interest rather than rebuke it. A lot of us here have been following the whole thing closely; we know about the deal with Microsoft and remember statements like the one you posted above, so we know better than to worry about it never coming out. I think the majority of people out there aren't quite as enthusiastic about keeping up to date on details like that, and it doesn't surprise me that many of them would see those tweets from Pete Hines (which are the only statements that have come from Bethesda about this topic in months) and consider the possibility that Dawnguard for PC and PS3 might not exist. I'm guessing Microsoft wanted there to be as much FUD surrounding the other platforms' DLC as possible, so the terms of the deal are forcing Bethesda's hand when it comes to these statements. At least I hope this is the case, otherwise some screws are loose over at Bethesda if they have decided all on their own to give the cold shoulder to people who are saying "WHEN WILL YOU TAKE OUR MONEY?!"

Thank God. Maybe that game will actually be of good quality when it comes out.

Excellent point.

You are to be commended for your insight and thoughtfulness, good sir.

I could care less about the dlc. what I do care about is that until the dlc releases for pc we'll probably not be seeing another patch release.

Bethesda has a high degree of autonomy. The kind that, you know, lets them accept bribes to do marketing and content delays.

Look at EA and DICE for a similar situation. BF3 has paid content AND BUGFIX delays on PC but no other EA games do.

Zenimax CREATED the studio making the MMO, yet that's a PC exclusive and the developers just trash talked the Xbox by saying its hardware and ecosystem aren't of a high enough quality level for their game. Bethesda would never do that. As such, the bribery is obviously at the Bethesda level and not the Zenimax level. I'm not seeing what part of this is hard to follow.



It won't. They're copy+pasting the gameplay mechanics and design philosophy directly from WoW.

Cicero I don't want to get into a flame war with you here, but once again you are missing the point! The car anology has nothing to do with putting life at risk, it could be any item which you leave with someone for repair, if they don't communicate you have the right to ask why, either you fail to understand the point I'm making or you're just arguing for argument sake, to be honest I'm beginning to believe the latter rather than the former.

I've stated I can't play the Xbox version of the main game so Dawnguard on Xbox isn't likely to change that. I have a PS3 but I don't have Skyrim for it. That leaves the PC version of Dawnguard which I'm now awaiting the release of.

As for the silence... Don't bother responding to this post as it will be met with just that. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine let's leave it at that.

Come on it will come out in 3 days I friggin hope.

Actually, all that says is that it that nothing could possibly come out until after 30 days. It very carefully avoids promising it will come out at all. I would assume that's because they wanted to see how it performed before they decided whether to release it at all on the other platforms.

I'm not saying it wont come out, just that they have left themselves that option in case they need to use it.

If it does come out on PC and PS3, bet your bottom dollar it will be a lot later than the 30 days, and expect an excuse of "yeah it's because we care so much and wanted to make it as bug free as possible", something like that to appease the rage at no 30 day release, and then putting themselves under a hard deadline to bug fix, which they will then miss and either delay further, or release still full of bugs.

PS3 still waiting on any type of news for patch 1.6, it's been.seven weeks since it's release soooo...where our release at?? alot of us are worried it's not even going to be made, or in production. at this point I care little for Dawngaurd I want my patch so it can fix some issues. (( and add new ones -.- ))