I just saw http://youtu.be/TlSpppchyrM?hd=1 that will cost only 10 $ this summer.
And Mass Effect 3 cost for me about 32 dollars, just 7 more dollars then the Dawnguard DLC.

Yes it is. Offers a very fair amount of content given the work of needing add in new animations and stuff. Most other developers would gladly break this up into 6-10 different DLC then charge you 5-10 dollars for each. Bethesda has learned a lot since horse armor, I commend them.

Ya i love that room lol.. Too bad you can only see it once I mean it is all possible.. It could be done in 6 months aswell.. But only 20% of the team is working on DLCs.. 10% is probably fixing Skyrim.. The other 70% is working on the next game, engine, etc...

Well if it was Knights of the Nine 2.0.. It should be like 2 dollars.. It was a horrible DLC.. They constructed 1 building, constructed a horrible story, created cool armor, and got some voice actors.. Thats all Knights of Nine was..

Ok, I am going to get it. Since it's almost pay day and $20's not a lot...

I haven't played it yet and won't until it drops in price to peanuts, but no DLC is worth ￡13.99. DLC was a scam to begin with, dreamt up most likely by some butthole in a suit who has never played a video game before, who has no interest in gaming whatsoever and just wanted a way to squeeze more money out of gamers for something that already existed in the form of expansions and mods. Now it has been taken to a whole new level by companies like EA who have release day DLC, selling you something that 10-years ago would already be included in the initial price of the game.

I just bought the whole series of STALKER games for less than ￡15, including delivery, from Amazon. 3 entire games for more or less the same price as this DLC. There are literally hundreds of PC games you can buy for peanuts that are bigger and offer far more hours of fun than this DLC does, so it's absolutely unacceptable to charge that price for it. It adds crossbows - so what? Previous TES titles had so many more weapons included in the initial release than Skyrim does that it's absolutely insane to use crossbows as an excuse for how reasonable the price is. They should have been in from the start along with spears, throwing weapons, shortswords and so much more. Does it add more spells to improve the abysmal magic system? Previous games had way more that are missing. Does it add new factions with stories and quests that are at least as good as previous TES games, instead of the dumbed down identical series of quests we have now? Every quest is "go here, kill this, come back". No thought, no imagination, not up to the standards of MW or OB.

They can tack on as many DLC's as they like but Skyrim will still be just a consolified, mainstreamed version of previous releases and that's why I'll only be buying it when it's going for peanuts, just like every future game from Bethesda.

wait.. its quakecon.. I have a feeling they will drop price last day for sale..

I don't think I'm going to be getting it. Beth seems to want to do everything they can to alienate all their non-Xbox fans, so DG and (I believe) the next dlc being exclusives I'm just going to wait till I see a Steam sale where I can pick them up for cheap. Once Beth realizes that the majority of their fans don't actually play their games on Xbox, and start giving the other platforms the attention they deserve then maybe I'll buy their DLC at full price.

It is worth the $20....

...the night mother told me so, and her word is final.

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There need to be some fixes. An add-on should never take away from established gameplay mechanics.
Losses for one character who was only present for two of the vamp attacks, one of which occurred out of view across town:
- 9 merchants across 4 settlements...and one caravaneer
- 5 quest givers
- 3 quest targets
- 5 quests stuck active, unable to continue or conclude
- 4 quest items, otherwise removable, now permanently lodged in the inventory
- Numerous quests unable to begin due to losses of key npc's

To be clear, I enjoyed the Dawnguard gameplay on my Xbox360. I liked the quests and also the new items and areas. I feel I've gotten more than my $20 worth and thank the devs for the storyline and additions. Overall it was fun, though I won't be purchasing it for my PC version. The additions are nice but these chaotic vamp attacks killing (what I consider) rather essential npc's have rendered the rest of the province nothing more than a hassle and journal log clutter-fest. Some basic quests cannot be finished or started, quest items are now stuck in one's inventory, and the economy is in shambles.

Fixes are needed, yes. And they should come (hopefully faster than the atomic nirnroot bug fix).
But I stll feel Dawnguard gameplay itself is well worth the money. As stated I enjoyed the new content...just not the new hassles.

Oh, it has been released?

19€? Well, like we finnish people say, the one who sets the price isn't the crazy one, but the one who pays it.


I'll say that when it's 9 €

LOL. I bought 6-7 games for that money during steam summer sale

Bethesda has never patched a DLC. Just an FYI

Have to wait for the modders to make unofficial patchs. As usual.

So, no. Not for me it isn't.

You're entitled to your opinion, and it's fair to question the amount of content for the price, but for me, at least, there have been plenty of DLC worth extra money. Tribunal, Bloodmoon, and Shivering Isles were all worth it without a second thought, IMO.

And comparing older games to current DLC doesn't make sense. You could buy a used chess set for $5 and use that for the rest of your life. Does that mean that no other game is worth $5? Does paying $60 (or $40) for a game entitle you to permanent content upgrades until the company goes bankrupt?

If you don't like where BGS is going (and I agree with many of your points), then I understand why you'd be disappointed and not want to give them money. But Skyrim, like every TES before, had a ridiculous amount of content. I don't agree with many of BGS design decisions (i.e. what they spend their time on), but I don't think any other publisher is putting out that amount of content for the price. I don't think anyone else even comes close. Of course, it doesn't matter if you don't like that content, but I think they deserve recognition for their incredible scale.

The point I was making with comparing older games with DLC is that for the same price you get several games with hundreds of hours worth of entertainment. They're out there right now just waiting to be bought and played, and many of them are absolute gems. How is it acceptable to add a tiny bit of content (when compared with the initial game) for ￡13.99 when you can buy several older games (sometimes not even a year old!) for the same price? And how is it acceptable to use crossbows as a selling point when previous games had such a fantastic variety of weapon types? They should have been in right from the start. They're purposely leaving out things they had in previous games just so they can sell them to us at a later date. It just doesn't fly with me. It's slimy corporate tactics like EA use.

You may refute what I say all you like, I just can't get over being bitter at how bad Beth have sold out to casual gamers. They've made more money but Skyrim feels hollow by comparison to their older games.

Above all this though, above all of it - is the fact that they snubbed the PC platform, the platform that made them what they are today, and gave a console the expansion over a month before the PC got it. That's just unforgivable.

Did you hear that Bethesda bought the rights to that series D: Its a rumor from the devs who made stalker... The person who said they are closing their doors was the one who said it i believe.. I was petrified...

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1400621-is-dawnguard-really-worth-20/page__st__60


Also Mass Effect 3 was a bad game compared to the previous ones.. Just needed to add in that last snagg

Merged topics. I really don't think we need separate "is it worth it?" threads for every type of money in the world.

Saw my comment on the other.. did ya?

Longknife, I hope we aren't alone in this struggle...

Tell you what. If/when it comes to the PS3, why don't you pay for my copy? That way, you get to give Bethesda even more money, like you want, and you get to rub it in my face just how spell-bindingly amazing Dawnguard really is by making my head spin with all of its awesomeness?

Yes they have. They patched the Shivering Isles Reference Bug that would literally smash the stability of the game in half and chew up all the broken pieces.


As for the topic, I am currently downloading Dawnguard but from what I have seen I will be very pleased with paying $20 for it.

Also ITT: Opinions are facts.

The true cost of expending any resource that has alternate uses is the foregone opportunities that those alternate uses represented. When asking whether the DLC is worth 20 bucks it's certainly relevant to examine what else could be obtained with that 20 bucks instead, including older but as yet unplayed games.

Whether Dawnguard is worth twenty bucks will vary incrementally from person to person based on the scarcity of both money and the time available for playing games weighed against alternate interests. For me it's not currently worth it because the competition for my time from already purchased other games (go Steam Summer Sale!) significantly reduces it's value. Had it been released a month earlier, before the sale, I would have bought it on release.

No. Short and simple answer to the OP, it maybe be worth $10(Maybe)

Amen! lol