DLC Exclusive. Discussion Continues.

Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:43 pm

If the DLC is as bad as operation Anchorage was for FO:3, us non-xbox people won't miss much.
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Heather M
 
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:52 am

No one is going to read this or care but honestly this is beyond disappointing. The worst part about the last time this happened is the fact that Broken Steel changed the games ending as well as raised the level cap. Releasing exclusive content is one thing gimping the original game to force you into buying something is like shareware. But shareware doesn't retail for $59.99 and PS3 owners didn't even have that as an option for a long time. Alienating the people who pay money for your product is not the best business model. Did PS3 and PC owners not buy enough copies of Fallout 3? Was there some other slight that effectively caused this? You are aware that Fallout started on the PC correct? I'll give you a bit of credit in announcing this before the game came out unlike last time. I'll take that credit away due to as it's been said on this board before Limited editions are sold out and changing orders isn't possible for some customers. As a consumer I'm appalled at this I'm going to let my dollars do the speaking again this time as I have never purchased the DLC for Fallout 3. I tried to have faith in you as a company and had high hopes you wouldn't do this again. My pre-order is now canceled and a used game sale will be the outcome. My future gaming dollars will no longer go into your coffers. I am a huge fan of the Fallout series and cringed when I found you had the licensing rights to the game in the first place and now know why that is. As I said before it's terribly sad day when a company can effectively make Bobby Kotick seem like a sane person when dealing with customer relations.
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Jessica Nash
 
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:29 pm

i dont care if its a month or two.


If it's like FO3 - it won't be a month or two but more like 6 or more.. and I'm pretty sure that when it's announced for the PC/PS3 , Beth will announce more DLC exclusive to 360.

I wonder if this is the new business model for Beth - can we expect the same treatment when 'Rage' releases next year too?
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:47 pm

A conversation between the executives who read this.

"well we just pissed a lot of people off"
"yeah i know."

"..........wanna have a money fight"
"sure"


ROFL!

On-topic: Ps3 is my only choice but In a few days I will be playing it so I won't care about DLCs until they are released
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:42 pm

Ok then DLC before everyone else comes with the territory of Xbox users. and to be quite frank I think other systems shouldn't get the DLC until the next one we get, or until whenever the hell microsoft decides to give you it.

And PS3 users who, until the news of the DLC was released, were waiting with as much anticipation as the rest of us for the game but now that you have to wait a month or 2 for DLC your cancelling your preorders and taking your money off the game its really really childish. I can understand taking your money of the game if you had to pay for something xbox users already but your not. and I really doubt that you'll have to pay more for the DLC then us anyway.

and as for Bungie, ya they broke off from microsoft but mic$ kept the keys to Halo. However Bungie is now working for Activision who are possibly even worse then microsoft.

15 dollars for cod DLC psschch.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:06 pm

I say, they can keep their bloody DLCs. I never feel I get my money's worth out of them anyway, $10 each when they only have few hours gameplay? or $50 for how many hours do ya think you could enjoyable put into the game alone?

CAN IT BE 3AM YET?
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:19 pm

I'm sad that they had to release this info the day before release when I was in such a good mood. But I'm just annoyed and upset. My excitement just went from 10 to 8. My mood has been officially killed.

Hopefully it will be restored when I have the CE in my hands :fallout:
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:49 pm

Guys, complaining about the exclusivity is one thing, but when you start attacking each other the mods are going to get involved - and we are not going to be lenient.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:05 pm

No. Your not getting it. I'm drawing equivalences that are there. Each console has its advantages. Bethesda has a deal with MS not Sony. If your making this big of a deal out of it then buy a 360.


The context here is different. The PC having mods is something you can't separate from the platform even if you wanted to. That's because it's an open platform.

Again, mods for the PC and cheaper hardware for the consoles has absolutely nothing to do with Bethesda and is not something they can change.

Bethesda deciding to sell half their fanbase down the river has absolutely nothing to do with platform. If Bethesda wanted to make PC or PS3 exclusive DLC instead of the Xbox, they could. There's no technical reason why the PS3 and PC cannot have DLC. The choice here lies completely with Bethesda. And they're choosing to cut off half the fanbase.

Mods are something that are infinate on the PC. Ask a lot PC gamer why PC is better than console in terms of Fallout and they will answer 'Mods'. Then the 360 gets something over PC and everyone is like 'Well I want the DLC'. PS3 gamers do get screwed in this one.


Mods are something intrinsic to the fact that the PC is an open platform. Bethesda has absolutely no control over that; they release the GECK to make it easier, but even if they didn't, there'd still be mods on the PC.

Mods are made by fans, not by the company itself. Mods have nothing to do with delivering paid DLC.

And frankly, I'm rather disappointed that you're treating this as some sort of "comeuppance" for the PC user for the temerity to use a platform that can support modding. If you want mods on the xbox, Microsoft, not Bethesda, are the ones to talk to.

If you want DLC on the PC and PS3, like I do... I have to talk to Bethesda. Which is what this is doing.

However, it might be a little DLC that means nothing. Remember FO3, how it was gonna be MS only.


It could be horse armor 2.0, but I highly doubt that. Microsoft doesn't shell out money for bad PR like that. The initial announcement talks about continuing adventure in the Mojave wasteland, which definitely sounds like new content and not dog armor.

Well PS3 and PC have the same DLC's that 360 does. How do you know it won't be the same here?


Would you be happy waiting a year for buggy DLC? Because that's how it was with the PS3 back in the day. Even when the PC got theirs at the same time, it was still pretty buggy and was never fixed.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:05 pm

I think a bunch of gamers psyched on the eve of launch suddenly had the rug yanked out from under them, maybe all that positive jazz turned sour real quick... lol


Yesterday: Yay new vegas :celebrate:
Today: :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:23 pm

Those [censored]ers wait until i cant cancel my pre-order >_>
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Post » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:14 am

If I worked at Obsidian and Microsoft rang me up and said we will pay you alot of money to screw over one of the consoles I would take the money. (and I know most of you guys would)
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:31 am

No one is going to read this or care but honestly this is beyond disappointing. The worst part about the last time this happened is the fact that Broken Steel changed the games ending as well as raised the level cap. Releasing exclusive content is one thing gimping the original game to force you into buying something is like shareware. But shareware doesn't retail for $59.99 and PS3 owners didn't even have that as an option for a long time. Alienating the people who pay money for your product is not the best business model. Did PS3 and PC owners not buy enough copies of Fallout 3? Was there some other slight that effectively caused this? You are aware that Fallout started on the PC correct? I'll give you a bit of credit in announcing this before the game came out unlike last time. I'll take that credit away due to as it's been said on this board before Limited editions are sold out and changing orders isn't possible for some customers. As a consumer I'm appalled at this I'm going to let my dollars do the speaking again this time as I have never purchased the DLC for Fallout 3. I tried to have faith in you as a company and had high hopes you wouldn't do this again. My pre-order is now canceled and a used game sale will be the outcome. My future gaming dollars will no longer go into your coffers. I am a huge fan of the Fallout series and cringed when I found you had the licensing rights to the game in the first place and now know why that is. As I said before it's terribly sad day when a company can effectively make Bobby Kotick seem like a sane person when dealing with customer relations.


I'm aware that my lone boycott will do nothing. You'll look down at me from your pile of money and laugh but judging from popular game forums comments I might not be the only one walking this avenue.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:27 pm

Yesterday: Yay new vegas :celebrate:
Today: :sadvaultboy:


Totally how I feel at the moment. But like I said, I think my mood will be restored tonight at midnight :)
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:36 pm

If the DLC is as bad as operation Anchorage was for FO:3, us non-xbox people won't miss much.


True they may be doing us a favor. The PS3 versions of the add-ons were complete failures. Plus it took them months to port it. "We are trying to iron out the bugs." The add-ons were boring, sloppy, and for goodness sake they basically took the original weapons and changed the name for them. What was it that i paid for again? :thumbsdown:
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:33 am

Meh. I'd be a liar if I said I cared all that much. It will most definitely be a timed exclusive, I cannot see that not being the case. I already planned a long long time ago to not buy any DLC individually, but instead buy the GOTY edition when it comes out, so I'm much less angry than I could be. This is just sort of forcing me to follow my original plan anyway.

Still, definitely svcks for PS3 players, as well as my fellow PC players, who did plan on buying each DLC individually.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:50 pm

No one is going to read this or care but honestly this is beyond disappointing. The worst part about the last time this happened is the fact that Broken Steel changed the games ending as well as raised the level cap. Releasing exclusive content is one thing gimping the original game to force you into buying something is like shareware.

This. A million times, this. I don't give a crap about console exclusivity. What I do care about is buying an incomplete product - released incomplete for the sole purpose of adding DLC later. This is an issue that should be discussed, whether you play on the PC, 360, or PS3.

I don't care if New vegas has an ending. But if it's as pathetic and tacked-on as Fallout 3's, I swear I'll raise hell if they release DLC "correcting it due to fan demand".
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:43 pm

If I worked at Obsidian and Microsoft rang me up and said we will pay you alot of money to screw over one of the consoles I would take the money. (and I know most of you guys would)


I wouldn't do it, especially after I know how it felt to get completely screwed after I paid $110 for the best experience possible.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:43 pm

Those [censored]ers wait until i cant cancel my pre-order >_>


You would really cancel your pre order because you are not getting optional content that you need to pay for?
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:05 pm

Would've been better if they announced this AFTER the release of the game, maybe a month after?
They just killed some sales they were going to make on a lot of PS3 users.

This won't stop me from buying a good game. As mad as I am, I like these types of games, so I can't pass it up, but this is crap and what an oh so wonderful way to make some of us severely angry when we should be anticipating the game's release. Did Microsoft pay for the timing of this announcement, as well? I have nothing against Xbox users, just so that is clarified. I'm just sick of not getting what they can get from my favorite company's video games, and yes, I may as well consider this a Bethesda game. Way to go. I can say you guys sure know how to lose the trust of one of your extremely devoted fans who's loved all your RPGs from Arena to Fallout 3 and has defended you and your game design decisions between each game up until now. You guys are turning into EA by the minute, and that's not a compliment. Success ruins companies, I suppose. It's not enough for you that New Vegas will undoubtedly be your best-selling game yet, and to think you guys were a struggling indie company a decade ago, and I am referring to Bethesda.

Yeah, I would bet that all you PS3 guys will eventually get these DLCs.

Yeah, last time we only had to wait nearly a year, right? Guess what the best part was, the laggy/crashing/mess they gave us. Yay!
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Post » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:04 am

I was actually kind of assuming that this wouldn't happen again as it did last time. But regardless, I wasn't going to take chances and went with the 360 version this time, (as well as PC version). I do think it's unfair to the other platforms, maybe PC will get it, not sure. But everything pretty well comes down to marketing and money.
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Post » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:12 am

I have a question for all the PS3 and PC users. With knowing what you know now, would you of made a different choice in gaming platform just for this DLC. If your anything like me, the choice of which next gen system to get was simple. Which ever one comes out first is the one to get. Personally I would of thought that the PS3 would have surpassed the 360 in superiority by now. I didn't factor in that multi platform game development would usually be prioritized on the 360, or that M$ would be so vigilant with exclusive games and DLC.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:04 pm

I wouldn't do it, especially after I know how it felt to get completely screwed after I paid $110 for the best experience possible.


Fair enough but its not like you aint getting a massive game anyway, being on 360 I don't really know how it feels but I know I would be pissed if the DLC let you play on after the game had finished.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:12 pm

Well I don't think that they only made the game up to the very last 20 minutes and then decided that they would milk it a little by releasing the last 20 minutes as a DLC. if its legitly exclusive for all time then it better be epic, if not everyone here will know about it.

and BTW I'm thinking PS3 owners feel the way i did when Resistance and Resistance 2 came out. I really wanted that game. instead me and a room mate invested into 3 xboxs, incase 1 or both got the Red Rings.
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Post » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:51 pm

The context here is different. The PC having mods is something you can't separate from the platform even if you wanted to. That's because it's an open platform.

Again, mods for the PC and cheaper hardware for the consoles has absolutely nothing to do with Bethesda and is not something they can change.

Bethesda deciding to sell half their fanbase down the river has absolutely nothing to do with platform. If Bethesda wanted to make PC or PS3 exclusive DLC instead of the Xbox, they could. There's no technical reason why the PS3 and PC cannot have DLC.



Mods are something intrinsic to the fact that the PC is an open platform. Bethesda has absolutely no control over that; they release the GECK to make it easier, but even if they didn't, there'd still be mods on the PC.

Mods are made by fans, not by the company itself. Mods have nothing to do with delivering paid DLC.

And frankly, I'm rather disappointed that you're treating this as some sort of "comeuppance" for the PC user for the temerity to use a platform that can support modding. If you want mods on the xbox, Microsoft, not Bethesda, are the ones to talk to.

If you want DLC on the PC and PS3, like I do... I have to talk to Bethesda. Which is what this is doing.



It could be horse armor 2.0, but I highly doubt that. Microsoft doesn't shell out money for bad PR like that. The initial announcement talks about continuing adventure in the Mojave wasteland, which definitely sounds like new content and not dog armor.



Would you be happy waiting a year for buggy DLC? Because that's how it was with the PS3 back in the day. Even when the PC got theirs at the same time, it was still pretty buggy and was never fixed.

I said I was sympathetic for PS3 users having to wait. I never said it was right that they had to. I simply said its not in our power to change. MS will shell out money for that because that makes others buy the 360 version. Bethesda does look at these forums but just because 15 people are upset that doesn't mean that there gonna give up millions just to please them. Its a business deal. Nothing personal. They need money and MS has money. Who knows, maybe the money MS provided for this will help pay for Fallout 4. Maybe there not being selfish at all and want an earlier release of Fallout 4 to please everyone.
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