Places like Lothering and Korkari Wilds look a bit dated, but I thought they were fine everywhere else. If you're on the PC installing a texture mod along with forcing anisotropic filtering in the video driver make a world of difference.

I love Dragon Age, and finished it before taking up Fallout 3, but yes, it is outdated, and no; this is nowhere near being just about the graphics.

Here's my thread about that on the BioWare forums: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/9/index/619939 posted within a few hours of playing FO3 for the first time.


I haven't updated that list, not to troll or anything, but here's the rest of the aspects in which FO3 absolutely decimates DA:



In all honest objectivity: Take away the party members and the Codex, and what have you got left in DA? (I expect someone parrot-replying with "Take away XYZ from FO3.." but that list of stuff will be a lot larger)

- And FO doesn't?
- Water isn't everything.
- All equipment doesn't fit you.
- Bioware has always done this. It isn't outdated, it is a difference in procedure.
- It is more complex than FO's.
- Thedas doesn't exist, Washington already does. They just blew it up.

Party members and codex make half the game. You just can't get rid of them.

^ still adding more stuff to the list.


NPCs in FO3,

• have their own schedules, and are doing different stuff depending on the time of day.
  
• can seamlessly roam the Wasteland on their own, and you can follow them.
  
• will comment on whatever you're looking at: "Yes, that's locked, and yes; I can see you eyeing it."
  
• will refer to the fact that you've been going around asking other NPCs the same things, when you bring it up with them.
  
• will mention other NPCs, including their absence. i.e. after Simms or Moriarty have died, they'll be referred to in the past tense.
  
• will mention the events you've taken part it.
  
• will behave differently depending on how Good or Evil you've been.

amongst other things.

and yet Sten can wear the same armor as Oghren or Leliana does.

Thedas already exists and it's called Middle Earth, or Faerun, or the Old World, or any other Western Medieval Fantasy setting. They just changed the names and roles a bit (an unfortunate exaggeration, but you get the point.)

There you go then. Those make up more than half of the game actually; without these it would be little more than a generic Tolkienesque WRPG wrapped around a bedtime story, as it were, whereas FO3 has way more numerous elements coming together to build a more solid experience, IMO.

To be honest I thought the codex was a very cheesy way to add depth and background to the game, without actually adding any depth or background.

They do it in Mass Effect as well.

:shrug: I enjoyed both, seems a shame to make lists. I would avoid Bioware games in future if I were you.

Are you kidding? I LOVE BioWare games, and I've praised Dragon Age as well, but that does not preclude the possibility of another game being that bit better. and it's kind of disappointing to find an older game being more advanced.

DA and Fallout 3 are two of the only 4 or 5 or so new games that I've played in the past couple years, and FO3 is essentially the first game by Bethesda that I've played, really.. and there's a reason I picked it up after more than a year since its release, being initially put off by the FPS'ness. Suffice to say, I was pleasantly surprised to have been wrong :drool:

I really do love both games, but I think that Dragon Age is far superior thanks to its superior writing, character development, and challenge.

There are more things, but I'm too lazy to type 'em out.

Your name and avatar would say otherwise. :whisper: Oh, the irony.

Ya see, I had a different mentality when I signed up here a year ago.

Better or different, I love them both :shrug: I can't pick at things I love, I can see why the game works that way, generally speaking it doesn't matter. I am a bit cheesed off with the revisions in lore they keep coming up with in DAO as that was one of the pillars of the game but otherwise, horses for courses as they say.

Eventually you'll like so many more games than you do Fallout that you'll be disgusted at the thought of using this username anymore.

I see what you did there.

That's why its good to pick a name to last. Gamgee has done me good for 8 years... yep. *chews on piece of straw for some reason, and is also on a rocking chair*

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I would be amazed if people could remember my first two avatars on this forum. I would be impressed.

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I do in fact remember them.

Get those massive hairy feet off my forum :slap:

Ive been here longer than most people though. Why do I have to go. I'm practically forum furniture at this point.

(Getting off topic here) FALLOUTFTW has almost as many posts as you do, yet he joined after I did. :poke:

On topic: I haven't played Dragon Age in quite a while and have been lately focusing on academics and Mass Effect 2.

I don't post a lot. Errr.... didn't, but that has been rectified recently. I just went up like... 2000-3000 posts in the last four months.

Anyways Dragon Age rocks. I shall go now.

Sure Patriarch. Me and my 2.54 posts per day disagree.

Okay... back on topic people. A high post count just means you waste a lot of time here.

So, Dragon Age... I just have enjoyed the hell out of it, flaws and all. I am thinking I might even pre-order the Expansion, which is something I never do. I also went and recreated my first mage character, after deleting the original game saves of her, because I now know a lot more than I did when I played the first time (and it was a miracle I finally beat the archdemon - it was a really lame, scattershot build... Maybe sometimes it would pay to read up on skills and such.) I actually opened the rooftop save to see if I could do it again, and saw that I had crap weapons, 8 health packs, Wynne and a really crap Sten, whose build svcked almost as bad as my mage. So anyway, I decided to go with a do-over, and that will probably be the character I take into the expansion.

Glad I'm not the only one building characters to take into the expansion

Dragon age disappointed me. They didn't even try to balance mages or poltices. The dialogue was pretty good but it felt overall too "generic bioware" they need to get new people in that company.

My friend, you are in the minority. This game is praised for the writing. And what do you mean by balance mages? :confused:

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