you dont have to play the dlc if you dont like it, intead you could jus go back to the bannered mare and drink a hot cup of hardin the [censored] up

I expected more but was not disappointed when I found out what it was. It still works for what it is and the DLC provides so much more.

NO the reason this dlc is great is because of the awesome side quests beautiful scenery and yes the nostalgia

To be honest the only things I didn't like was the shortness and lack of back story given to the main questline, and the dragon riding. Very entertainin gimick for five minutes right when you get it. Then turns to an "I'm bored, but at least I can get out of dragon fights now."

miraak was a bit underwhelming. i killed him off completely with cloaked spiders (only 7), a couple of seekers and a frost thrall from a scroll(oddly the frost thrall was the thing that died the fastest). then i got his mask expecting some uber enchantment on it, no its just . kinda disappointing imo

wow... why are people getting offended? He was let down by the DLC, Sure it's not exactly on Bethesda's hands since I'd say we all sorta worked ourselves up for more... Sure I was let down a bit, but guess what- I'm still playing it. The MQ could have been SOO MUCH MORE. I agree. Personally, the only thing I can say I got out of this were some amazing armors/weapons. The side quests... eh, they're quick too. But again, I enjoy the game as a whole.

A person can make a thread about how amazing this DLC was and no one's gonna jump on their case about it. Someone starts a thread about their dislikes and it's like sticking your hand into a hornet's nest.

Nope the good doesn't really out weigh the bad, its about even. The villain seemed cool until you learn he's Herma Mora's [censored], The writing is still too simple, Staff enchanting is another trollI ( you cannot enchant staffs with master spells), The vast majority of the land is featuress, they gave us some random telvanni instead of Divayth Fyr (mah main man).
On the good side:
Silt Strider (hecks yeah!), Telvanni tower (cool), new armor, waterwalking, Coolest sword ever made in the history of ever (Miraaks Sword)

The only really cool unique sidequest was unearthed to be honest.

Ok..OP don't care for the DLC...

But I want to know...

WTF was so bad about Horse Armor?

...it was $2, for crying out loud.

Must be leveled, mine is 70 pts.

Don't know what you're talking about with the armor. I switched from Dragonscale to Stalhrim when it came out. And many more switched to carved Nordic. If you wanna see crappy armor additions, Dawnguard takes the cake (except for the Ancient Falmer).

The rest of your complaints are centered around optional features that the DLC didn't need in the first place. Spears? They could've given the Rieklings swords. Werebears? Obviously an afterthought. Dragon riding? Definitely not heavily promoted. Hell, I couldn't even find it in the list of features when it was first announced. It's a letdown, but it definitely didn't ruin anything for me.

Uh because "Dragonborn is the worst bethesda dlc ever" is the title and the reasons are incredibly stupid. No playable wearbears, spears or freeroam dragon riding. Waaah. Miss the new shouts, spells, items, lore, locations, enchantments and likeable NPC's?

what ever you say am just saying whats the point of making a thread just talking about the bad and not the good

Well, admittedly, I don't think his personal opinions will go on any major reviews so I don't see how people are up in arms about it. He thinks it's the worst DLC ever. Personally, MY OPINION: it's not that bad. Wasn't great either... Apocrypha, Solstheim were AMAZINGLY built. But God how I wanted to keep dwelling around and discovering new places... Unfortunately, there was a set path that you just HAD to follow and once your done, you're basically done. Aaaaanyways, I don't completely agree with Jcscs14 since I think he got his own hopes up and I say that since I'm taking responsibility for my own... I, too, expected more but that's my fault not Bethesda.

Lol paid $2 in real money, for 2 sets of armor for a horse that I was faster than. It would have been worth it if they had 1 of each type of armor for the horse. However, I bought it, as well as he rest of oblivion's dlc, skyrim's dlc, fallout 3's dlc, and Fallout: New Vegas's dlc. Personally I don't care if it isn't great or if it's underwhelming, it adds to the roleplay options and hours of enjoyable time in the game. I'd have to say though, so far, Skyrim's dlc has been pretty impressive.

Exactly. OP got himself all hyped for stuff that was never promised except for dragon riding, and if you honeslty thought dragon riding was going to be like The Neverending Story well then thats just sad.

hmm. what level are you? i wonder if it can go higher..... might make it totally worth his robes not having magicka regen. though the rest of it's powers are awesome

I have one better for you.

Mothership Zeta for Fallout 3. Here's why it can be worse than Dawnguard.

1. Came on the heels of Point Lookout, the best DLC gamesas made for FO3 by most accounts.
2. Had good promise of expanding the FO universe, but fell flat on its face in that regard. Designed as a linear dungeon crawl, with minimal story.
3. Can't return to previously-visited areas once finished.
4. The head of QA at the time was (probably) fired over how badly buggy the game was. Gen. Chase's overcoat isn't an overcoat, and many people had issues getting major scripts to run. Not all holotapes have sound, and Alien Energy Cells are still rare, DESPITE BEING ON AN ALIEN SHIP!
5. One of the bugged holotapes indicates a possible aliens-caused-the-war scenario. Which flies in the face of what the Fallout series is supposed to be about. So, possibly Lore-breaking.
6. You get to be captain of your own spaceship! Too bad there's NOTHING TO DO AT THAT POINT. Not even "random space encounters"!
7. Worst. Boss. Ever. Hardly any effort to destroy the "boss." Yes, if you somehow get your level 1 character to it, it's still easy.
8. Have to do an EVA. In a spacesuit. With your pip-boy hand exposed.
9. If you're unfortunate to do it at the level cap, ALL THE ENEMIES ARE BULLET SPONGES.
10. DLC is geared for EW players. Specialize in Small or Big Guns? svcks to be you.

In fact... the only thing MZ has going for it is a spectacular design and some items that automatically repair your weapons.


It's not the cost, it's the principle of the matter. The Dev team decides to put in a largely useless feature and decides to CHARGE you for it. Give a modder about an hour and they'll make something better, that you can get FOR FREE. Get where I'm going? Horse Armor doubles your mount's health up to 750 health. That's all it does. How often do you get into a situation where your mount dies?

1) Dragon riding would be so terrible as free control it would be hilarious. I really don't understand how anyone could want that, or even expect it to be good. The world space ijust isn't large enough to support it, let alone how buggy it would probably be as free control.

2) Werebears were never even marketed for this DLC. Does it svck that they aren't playable? Sure. But at least they are there.

3) It is MORAG TONG. MORAG TONG. Anyone that calls it MORANG Tong doesn't deserve to join the illustrious organization. In fact, they should be Fus Ro Dah'd off of the Throat of the World. There is a very simple and logical reason as to why you can't join them. The Dark Brotherhood are joinable. The Morag Tong were joinable in Morrowind, but the Dark Brotherhood were not.

4) Apocrypha's design is perfect. It doesn't need to be open like the main world space. Not sure how you would expect to traverse it anyway, what with those oceans of tentacles looking to violate you. The only way you're getting anywhere there is via dragon. It's also an order of magnitude better than the Soul Cairn was in Dawnguard.

5) Some of the unique armours do have their own designs. But I'm not really sure why it is an issue if some of them share a design with the new DLC armour anyway. It makes sense.

6) Spears was (still is) one of my most wanted "features", but Bethesda never promised we'd get playable spears. Only some of the spears are used as arrows, as well. Rieklings have melee animations for spears and that gives me (admittedly little) hope that we'll see them playable in the future.

7) Useless? I'm mystified as to how you draw this conclusion, I mean really. I'm rocking a set of Nordic Carved Armour, have average (at best) smithing skills and still I'm around the 600 AR mark. I imagine I'll hit the AR cap when I finally get enough bonemold to make my set of improved bonemold armour. Stalhrim and Deathbrand are even better.

this dudes a troll

Ha! I bought everyone of those DLCs for every one of those games as well. Still, it doubled the HPs of your Horse. And they looked cool! People have paid more for some stupid T-Shirt to put on that damn XBL avi...By the GODS I hate that thing...

Anyway, I have bought everything so far and chances are I will buy everything else that comes and I will love it and be thankful for it!!

...Amen.

Here's what everyone does not get. It was the first DLC. It was a small addition to actually act as a test run. To see how well the Beth / XBL / Money exchange and functionality of the transition of the downloading process worked out.

And before I got Horse armor, my mount died quite often due to he damn Kamikaze AI. It couldn't run from the Daedroth...It has to charge right in.

ok

you sir have apparently never hit a horse with a wayshrine blessing. although it could have been a mod that caused it to do that. lol