Dragonborn the worst bethesda dlc ever

Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:47 am

Being Dragonborn means your gifted with dragonblood by Akatosh.
He was given his gift from akatosh, and he was seduced, and exploited by Mora since he was dragonborn.

It just seemed like he 'gifted' people for a reason... Didn't realize he gave random hand-outs. Especially since it was 'pre-lored' that someone else was supposedly the first... Just sorta figured there would be some lore that answered this.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:07 am

It just seemed like he 'gifted' people for a reason... Didn't realize he gave random hand-outs. Especially since it was 'pre-lored' that someone else was supposedly the first... Just sorta figured there would be some lore that answered this.
Miraak mentions, "He was ordered to take on Alduin, and he refused"
It seems like Akatosh meant for Miraak to slain alduin, and after turning away, he gave you the role.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:31 pm

It just seemed like he 'gifted' people for a reason... Didn't realize he gave random hand-outs. Especially since it was 'pre-lored' that someone else was supposedly the first... Just sorta figured there would be some lore that answered this.

It's hinted at that he was born into the world for the same reason you were.. except he didn't exactly work out. Which creates the interesting dynamic of you only existing because Miraak failed.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:19 am

It's hinted at that he was born into the world for the same reason you were.. except he didn't exactly work out. Which creates the interesting dynamic of you only existing because Miraak failed.

oh with the whole "I would've killed him a long time ago but..." statement? I suppose I can get behind this. Still feel like they should've dug into this though. lol, At least give me a lore book.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:53 pm

Oh and these cultists... No back history behind them? I didn't get any 'cultists'. Other Dragonpriests didn't get any cultists...
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:45 am

Oh and these cultists... No back history behind them? I didn't get any 'cultists'. Other Dragonpriests didn't get any cultists...

I think the explanation behind that is bend will and the corruption of the stones.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:59 pm

I think the explanation behind that is bend will and the corruption of the stones.

I gathered that they were willing servants, while everyone else were sorta mind-slaved into Miraaks bidding.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:14 am

8. miraak is underwhelming, despite being marketed as "your deadliest adversary". he's nothing more than HM's little pawn

the only reason why people rate this dlc highly is because it gives them nostalgia. without this, the dlc is just average
That has little to no evidence to it. There are tons of TES fans who haven't played Morrowind, and I'm willing to bet many of those people love Dragonborn.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:43 am

i deffinitly agree on spears and werebears. felt like someone punched me in the gut and ran away laughing when it turned out the only usable spears where the reikling spears and they where used as arrows. whereas werebears they really couldnt have had some werebears in there human forms doing a ritual to induct a new member into there clan in the way the companions do it at snowclad ruins? seemed like the perfect place for it there was an altar to hircine and everything all they needed was a bowl or something to hold the blood. and to become a werebear all the player would have to do is crash the party drink the blood and bam your a werebear.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:37 am

i deffinitly agree on spears and werebears. felt like someone punched me in the gut and ran away laughing when it turned out the only usable spears where the reikling spears and they where used as arrows. whereas werebears they really couldnt have had some werebears in there human forms doing a ritual to induct a new member into there clan in the way the companions do it at snowclad ruins? seemed like the perfect place for it the place had an altar to hircine and everything all they needed was a bowl or something to hold the blood.

Yeah, I saw that too... makes me think that they didn't get the content finished in time for the DLC deadline.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:22 pm

oh with the whole "I would've killed him a long time ago but..." statement? I suppose I can get behind this. Still feel like they should've dug into this though. lol, At least give me a lore book.

They should have, but I think he will be expanded on in another source. What we got now is hints of his origin and his history with Vahlok.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:09 am

Oh and these cultists... No back history behind them? I didn't get any 'cultists'. Other Dragonpriests didn't get any cultists...

Dragonpriests were high ranking members of the Dragon Cult, which means there were many other lower members of that cult. People will join all manner of cults. Just look at all the real life cults people joined.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:23 am

They should have, but I think he will be expanded on in another source. What we got now is hints of his origin and his history with Vahlok.

I'm hoping so... Though it would have been a way to expand the MQ somehow. The first day release and people were finishing it by lunch time. But now I'm just digging into 'high' expectations of a decently lengthy MQ like Dawnguard was... Hell, they could have had some back and forth play between Skyrim and Solstheim. They should've included Paarthurnax or the Blades in some lore about this 'first dragonborn.'
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:31 pm

I don't believe The Blades existed during his time, and Parth was most likely still allied with Alduin.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:16 pm

Yeah, I saw that too... makes me think that they didn't get the content finished in time for the DLC deadline.
and maybe just so becoming a werebear isnt too easy have the werebear clan and the accociated items be part of a quest i dont know saving somones brother or son or even daughter from getting turned into a werebear by the snowclad clan. and of course once said person leaves to rethink there life theres just you the blood and a decision to make leave that disgusting filth to freeze in the cold or drink it and become a werebear.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:22 pm

It's not the cost, it's the principle of the matter. The Dev team decides to put in a largely useless feature and decides to CHARGE you for it. Give a modder about an hour and they'll make something better, that you can get FOR FREE. Get where I'm going? Horse Armor doubles your mount's health up to 750 health. That's all it does. How often do you get into a situation where your mount dies?
Every time you run into enemies while your horse is nearby, though I don't recall if that's all that big of an issue in Oblivion as it is in Skyrim. In Skyrim, horses are generally a waste of gold most of the time since they cost 2000 Septims and they get killed by everything.

And yes, Horse Armor is considered by far to be one of the worst (if not the worst) DLC Bethesda's ever done, so bad that they're likely never doing horse armor as a feature for a TES game ever again.


This boggles my mind along with spears. IDK why Beth would add Werebears and Spears and not make them playable/useable. Thats like putting the candy jar out on the table and telling us "no no you can't have any" and don't give me the "O BeTh Nev ProMiSeD Werebears or SpEre" crap becasue I know the were never "promised" to us but why the bloody hell put them in the [censored] game if we cant play as a Werebear or use a spear?? Really doesn't make sense to me at
Maybe they thought they could get away with just having them there but not playable, because people would just be happy that they are in in some form. Don't know if they're ever going to make either one playable for Skyrim eventually.

Personally, I detest the idea on principle because this could easily lead into a domino effect where they start applying this sort of logic onto everything. "Oh, you wanted Morrowind style digitigrade legs for beast races? Now they have them again! Oh, you're not happy with those two races not being playable anymore? Too eff'n bad!" or "We did werewolves again, but they're not playable" or "The Dark Brotherhood is in, but they're not joinable." Anything like this could happen if they're not careful about maintaining their principles as a result of nonplayable spears and werebears, the whole mindset of "we don't have to make it playable."
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:14 pm

I don't believe The Blades existed during his time, and Parth was most likely still allied with Alduin.

Right, but perhaps Esbern could have had some lore about him or perhaps Parth could've given you a bit of information about him. I mean, we're talking about a dragonborn who sided with the Dragons and then turned against him for his own rise in power... I'm not really looking for an indepth backstory or even a biography of this guy... But he was a traitor twice over... He basically spat in Akatosh's face and then did it again when he sided with Herma Mora. lol, I mean he even makes a Dragonpriest look like the 'good guy' "The Guadian and The Traitor."
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:21 am

What's with all this complaining? I mean seriously, you were given so much great content with a Morrowind setting and feel, making it feel like a proper expansion. However, instead of enjoying it, many of you always focus on the negatives and whine, whine, whine. If you don't like the DLC for some odd reason, that's fine but honestly, what's the point in writing this? To vent your fustrations that, to be honest, aren't very valid. Dragon riding is in the DLC, were you promised it would be full out dragon riding, no, but there is dragon riding and it does work for the limitations of the console. You weren't promised were bears, but you got them, not in the fashion you may have been hoping for, but they are there. Apocraphya was by far one of the coolest places that I've been in, and I loved the really cool designs of the enemies, as well as the awesome powers you get from the black books. And then there were spears. In no mention in the trailer or the press before release did bethesda show or tell us that you could wield a spear. No they showed the Rieklins with them and that's it. Sure alot of these things in the trailer and being in Solesthiem looked like they would be given us, however many of you decided to hype yourself up and that's technically your fault, not Bethesdas. It's crazy how so many look for perfection and want everything like spoiled little child. Why not just appreciate what you have been given and wait. Never say never, especially when more DLC and free updates are on the way. And if they never come, then so be it. I understand that you want to be passionate about something you love and that's great. But expecting everything and complaining when you don't get it, it's simply childish. Be grateful for the awesome DLC that they gave us and look at the positives because I can assure you, there are many. And if you still disagree, then please, let the rest of us who do enjoy it, enjoy it in peace without all this trolling and negativity. Thank you.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:34 am

What's with all this complaining? I mean seriously, you were given so much great content with a Morrowind setting and feel, making it feel like a proper expansion. However, instead of enjoying it, many of you always focus on the negatives and whine, whine, whine. If you don't like the DLC for some odd reason, that's fine but honestly, what's the point in writing this? To vent your fustrations that, to be honest, aren't very valid. Dragon riding is in the DLC, were you promised it would be full out dragon riding, no, but there is dragon riding and it does work for the limitations of the console. You weren't promised were bears, but you got them, not in the fashion you may have been hoping for, but they are there. Apocraphya was by far one of the coolest places that I've been in, and I loved the really cool designs of the enemies, as well as the awesome powers you get from the black books. And then there were spears. In no mention in the trailer or the press before release did bethesda show or tell us that you could wield a spear. No they showed the Rieklins with them and that's it. Sure alot of these things in the trailer and being in Solesthiem looked like they would be given us, however many of you decided to hype yourself up and that's technically your fault, not Bethesdas. It's crazy how so many look for perfection and want everything like spoiled little child. Why not just appreciate what you have been given and wait. Never say never, especially when more DLC and free updates are on the way. And if they never come, then so be it. I understand that you want to be passionate about something you love and that's great. But expecting everything and complaining when you don't get it, it's simply childish. Be grateful for the awesome DLC that they gave us and look at the positives because I can assure you, there are many. And if you still disagree, then please, let the rest of us who do enjoy it, enjoy it in peace without all this trolling and negativity. Thank you.

So basically, we can't disagree with anything whatsoever? We basically have to conform and say how AMAZING this DLC is and never really have an opinion of our own? Sure, I agree- Bethesda never promised us anything, but implementing something in a 'enjoy the view only' fashion can easily rub people the wrong way... They have a right to be upset all the same. Anyways, don't start this whole 'tool mind-set' of "conform and don't disagree" business, because it's simply wrong... People are ALLOWED to propose an opinion in opposition to the 'popular thought process.'
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:09 am

So basically, we can't disagree with anything whatsoever? We basically have to conform and say how AMAZING this DLC is and never really have an opinion of our own? Sure, I agree- Bethesda never promised us anything, but implementing something in a 'enjoy the view only' fashion can easily rub people the wrong way... They have a right to be upset all the same. Anyways, don't start this whole 'tool mind-set' of "conform and don't disagree" business, because it's simply wrong... People are ALLOWED to propose an opinion in opposition to the 'popular thought process.'

People are also allowed to not have to see rants 24/7, just as much as you all are allowed to vent/rant. Honestly, they should just open a rants section, so this type of thing has its own place and everybody wins. At least I would. :P
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:39 am

Note that MC himself implied he would be doing stuff on Miraak.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:07 pm

People are also allowed to not have to see rants 24/7, just as much as you all are allowed to vent/rant. Honestly, they should just open a rants section, so this type of thing has its own place and everybody wins. At least I would. :tongue:

I could get behind this...
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:05 am

Right, but perhaps Esbern could have had some lore about him or perhaps Parth could've given you a bit of information about him. I mean, we're talking about a dragonborn who sided with the Dragons and then turned against him for his own rise in power... I'm not really looking for an indepth backstory or even a biography of this guy... But he was a traitor twice over... He basically spat in Akatosh's face and then did it again when he sided with Herma Mora. lol, I mean he even makes a Dragonpriest look like the 'good guy' "The Guadian and The Traitor."

I would wager that the 'The Guardian and The Traitor' isn't exactly... accurate.

Note that MC himself implied he would be doing stuff on Miraak.

Which would be unofficial, seeing as he's not being contracted to do it.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:35 am



So basically, we can't disagree with anything whatsoever? We basically have to conform and say how AMAZING this DLC is and never really have an opinion of our own? Sure, I agree- Bethesda never promised us anything, but implementing something in a 'enjoy the view only' fashion can easily rub people the wrong way... They have a right to be upset all the same. Anyways, don't start this whole 'tool mind-set' of "conform and don't disagree" business, because it's simply wrong... People are ALLOWED to propose an opinion in opposition to the 'popular thought process.'

I'm not saying that people shouldn't voice they're opinion but lets be realistic here. Dragon riding is very overrated. Not only that, but on the Xbox, the loading of textures and areas would be bad, and Skyrim really isn't that big so it's essentially pointless. However, they did implement it in a way that could work and makes sense, even if this isn't the dream many wanted. All I'm saying is that, while people whine and complain about all this, your just regurgatating the same stuff over and over again and nothing's coming from it. You focus on the negatives because your greedy. You want everything and you want it now, which is sad. Why didn't Bethesda do some things the way we wanted, I don't know, I can only speculate. But they gave quite a bit, many things we didn't think we wanted. Nothing good will come from all this complaining, especially considering its not constructive but rather venomous. If you want to vent, do it elsewhere because honestly, I'm sick of people attacking Bethesda regardless of all the great things they've given us. Yes it's buggy, yes they are things we wish they added and they may still add. What I want to see is more constructive criticism that actually is criticism and less whining about how your super high expectations didn't come to pass. Nothing was promised that didn't come into the DLC but rather many assumptions of what fans thought would be in. And because of this assumptions, when they weren't in the DLC, people get angry at the wrong person instead of realizing that they overhyped themselves. Stop blaming Bethesda for something they didn't promise or say.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:59 pm



People are also allowed to not have to see rants 24/7, just as much as you all are allowed to vent/rant. Honestly, they should just open a rants section, so this type of thing has its own place and everybody wins. At least I would. :P

Fair enough :)
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