hardcoe Survival Methods

Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:28 pm

Keep a machete or a baseball bat with you, or just train your fists.It can be very useful when you dont want to waste your precious bullets on critters or you run out of them...
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:17 am

You can make conjecture based on minuscule percentage of facts extrapolated to contain information which has very little specific use or meaning.


So you wanna say that: The tips are going to be useless 'cus we don't know anything about hardcoe mode?

Excuse me if I am wrong, English is not my native language.

First, multiple interviews and previews explains how this mode works, and what are the most meaningful changes in the core game when the HC is activated. Based on these facts we can speculate tactics and tips. Which most are going to work.

Second, we know a lot about hardcoe, it isn't a minuscule percentage of facts about it that we know. We know pretty much all of it but the minor things such as speed that the meters degrade.

Third, the tips are going to have specific uses and will actually mean something in game, some might not have any use at all, and some others might have to be edited in order to match with the changes in HC mode.

And finally, I can't see what's wrong with speculating and discussing these things. Not only it's fun, but most of the things in this area of the forums are speculations about the game, since the game is not out yet. So we might be right, or we might be wrong, most likely right.
Speculating is fun, it is something good. And creating a topic like this one is even more fun, 'cus based on what we know, most might come in handy.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:20 pm

Second, we know a lot about hardcoe.

Please, list it.
I'll start.
Healing over time.
Need to drink.
Need to eat.
Need to sleep.
Ammo has weight.

Now it's your turn.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:53 am

So you wanna say that: The tips are going to be useless 'cus we don't know anything about hardcoe mode?

Excuse me if I am wrong, English is not my native language.

First, multiple interviews and previews explains how this mode works, and what are the most meaningful changes in the core game when the HC is activated. Based on these facts we can speculate tactics and tips. Which most are going to work.

Second, we know a lot about hardcoe, it isn't a minuscule percentage of facts about it that we know. We know pretty much all of it but the minor things such as speed that the meters degrade.

Third, the tips are going to have specific uses and will actually mean something in game, some might not have any use at all, and some others might have to be edited in order to match with the changes in HC mode.

And finally, I can't see what's wrong with speculating and discussing these things. Not only it's fun, but most of the things in this area of the forums are speculations about the game, since the game is not out yet. So we might be right, or we might be wrong, most likely right.
Speculating is fun, it is something good. And creating a topic like this one is even more fun, 'cus based on what we know, most might come in handy.

I didn't say it would be useless, i said it would be limited. Your English is impeccable for a second language by the way.
You don't know what sort or impact gear, weapons, food or companions will have on your survival. You don't know terrain, enemies, damage, or availability of resources. Of what you do know you know only parts of a whole such as the survival skill, you have very little knowledge of what it will mean to your survival. I don't mean to imply it can't be fun to speculate , but i think it is unreasonable to expect a large impact on game experience when the 19th rolls around.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:36 am

Wow page 6 in this thread in less then a day. Nice


Keep the tips coming
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:28 am

I didn't say it would be useless, i said it would be limited. Your English is impeccable for a second language by the way.
You don't know what sort or impact gear, weapons, food or companions will have on your survival. You don't know terrain, enemies, damage, or availability of resources. Of what you do know you know only parts of a whole such as the survival skill, you have very little knowledge of what it will mean to your survival. I don't mean to imply it can't be fun to speculate , but i think it is unreasonable to expect a large impact on game experience when the 19th rolls around.


We do know the type of companions, special items, wepons, and gear that are in game. I will post a thread with a list of known things in it and then link this thread to it.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:28 am

Save often.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:33 pm

This is a broadcast to all who dog on this thread

This Forum is for fun, and use's what we know about hardcoe mode wich is more than you think if you acutaly look stuff up. Do not come into this thread and get off topic. If you get off topic i will report you. The New Vegas forum is for speculations of the game using what knowledge we have. When the game comes out i will play it the first day. I have it pre-ordered. Day 2 of its realease i will come here and change the tips acording to my knowledge. Now read the first comment. At the bottom says what this thread is for. Now join in or get out.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:05 pm

This is a broadcast to all who dog on this thread

This Forum is for fun, and use's what we know about hardcoe mode wich is more than you think if you acutaly look stuff up. Do not come into this thread and get off topic. If you get off topic i will report you. The New Vegas forum is for speculations of the game using what knowledge we have. When the game comes out i will play it the first day. I have it pre-ordered. Day 2 of its realease i will come here and change the tips acording to my knowledge. Now read the first comment. At the bottom says what this thread is for. Now join in or get out.

Hmm, you seem to have taken a lot out of context. I am all for speculation of what may or may not aid you in your travels through New Vegas. I do not think that compiling conjecture and calling it the definitive survival guide is remotely accurate.
Please, point out anyone who has gone off topic? I am specifically talking about the topic itself and the information contained therein.
I do not seek to exclude you from communicating or anyone else, i find it quite rude that you do.
I also find your reply is very juvenile very much more so due to your increasing the size of your font and "screaming."
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:39 am

Hmm, you seem to have taken a lot out of context. I am all for speculation of what may or may not aid you in your travels through New Vegas. I do not think that compiling conjecture and calling it the definitive survival guide is remotely accurate.
Please, point out anyone who has gone off topic? I am specifically talking about the topic itself and the information contained therein.
I do not seek to exclude you from communicating or anyone else, i find it quite rude that you do.
I also find your reply is very juvenile very much more so due to your increasing the size of your font and "screaming."


No it does not mean im screaming. Its so people will read it. Big letters draw more attention. But were getting of topic. Do not reply to this, if you wish to particpate please go ahead. If your tip is logical enough i will add it. And this is not the " Official strategy guide" Its for people to have fun and help others that are new to fallout. Some of this works out of hardcoe but is best for hardcoe. We know about 80% of what there is to know about hardcoe mode. Some more than others. Im going to make a thread now with everything we know about items, locations, enemys, etc. Now please, lets stop fighting. This is for fun and comments like your's ruin the thread's fun.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:20 am

snip.... font too large.

Wow... moderating your own thread I see! lol

So as the poll asks, I have to say I voted no. And my only reason really is, most of the suggestions listed are... well, common sense. All though far too often not that common. But people who intend on playing HC, the list is quite obvious.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:02 am

No it does not mean im screaming. Its so people will read it. Big letters draw more attention. But were getting of topic. Do not reply to this, if you wish to particpate please go ahead. If your tip is logical enough i will add it.

Dude, just cause you don't like what we're saying doesn't mean we're going offtopic.

Oh and "We know about 80% of what there is to know about hardcoe mode."
No, you don't.
We know 5%.
It's like looking at a house, that's hardcoe mode right now. The house from the outside.
But 80%?
For that you need the blueprints to the house, see the electrical wiring, the plumbing system.
Where all electrical sockets are.
How many square meters each room has.
What color the rooms are etc etc etc etc.
(Is this an anology or metaphor?)

Point is, you only know the tip of the ice-berg.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:45 am

cannibalism is an option that one should not be ashamed of resorting to, if this allows for it, and youve killed a good few people and need to really get some health...go cannibalistic..

something can be said about properly clearing a room, make sure you check your corners and search everywhere, dont depend on your perception..you may even find loot.

do scouting when you go to a location, locate the main entrance and do a sweep of that area around a location...a back door, loot in storage crates or a lone patrolmen can be excellent prey...

never leave a store without gaining a profit, if you dont leave a store with more money in your pocket...you werent doing it right..
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:22 am

Please, list it.
List
Healing over time.
Need to drink.
Need to eat.
Need to sleep.
Ammo has weight.
Harder enemys (Aka smarter)
Cooking of food yourself
Stimpacks heal over time, but do not heal broken limbs
Doctor bags heal limbs
You can craft poison, Tan hides, and make drugs/medicine

The rest is how the game would play ethier way, same with the crafting that works for both but is most likly more a valubable thing in hardcoe.


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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:56 am

Dude, just cause you don't like what we're saying doesn't mean we're going offtopic.


Sorry. But seriously tho, it does ruin the fun of the thread. If you want to dog on people who have high hopes for the game and know alot of things about it, then make your own thread telling what you think. This is not the apropriate thread for debate, tho.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:27 am

Be a coward and run away from fights.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:54 am

While i don't agree with Wastelander, i think we should drop this before we get his thread locked.

Subby i lol'd hard, your avatar really makes it that much better!
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:52 pm

Dude, just cause you don't like what we're saying doesn't mean we're going offtopic.

Oh and "We know about 80% of what there is to know about hardcoe mode."
No, you don't.
We know 5%.
It's like looking at a house, that's hardcoe mode right now. The house from the outside.
But 80%?
For that you need the blueprints to the house, see the electrical wiring, the plumbing system.
Where all electrical sockets are.
How many square meters each room has.
What color the rooms are etc etc etc etc.
(Is this an anology or metaphor?)

Point is, you only know the tip of the ice-berg.


I had a laugh at this. You are thinking hardcoe mode is its own new game. No it just add's the survival aspects to the game. Think before you speak, study before you type.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:04 pm

Sorry. But seriously tho, it does ruin the fun of the thread. If you want to dog on people who have high hopes for the game and know alot of things about it, then make your own thread telling what you think. This is not the apropriate thread for debate, tho.

A thread isn't always meant to be happy happy phun land.
Some serious discussion is inevitable.

Oh and the list:
Harder enemys (Aka smarter) - Not confirmed IIRC and it should be based on difficulty not game-mode.
Cooking of food yourself - Not exclusive to HC mode.
You can craft poison, Tan hides, and make drugs/medicine - Not exclusive to HC mode.

"I had a laugh at this. You are thinking hardcoe mode is its own new game. No it just add's the survival aspects to the game. Think before you speak, study before you type."
Uh-huh...
So, we know how much each type of ammo is gonna weigh then?
If it's going to be weight by each round or each 10 rounds or each 20 rounds?
Of how the whole damage system works and how much ammo you actually need to make it through the wasteland?
Of how rare/easy and expensive/cheap the ammo is going to be at settlements?
Of how much money you're going to get from quests? Or selling items?
Of how the exact exchange rate is in each town?
Dude, I'm talking about the bigger picture here.
Overall game balance.
Changing the weight of the ammo does a lot more than you think.
It changes gameplay drastically. (And if not then what's the point of it?)

That's why I drew that anology, we only know what the house is like on the outside.
We have no idea how it actually is on the inside.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:48 pm

Fight Smart, You'll fight longer.

enter an area in stealth mode to scope out the area...even if you are bad with sneak you still are in a crouched position and can get better accuracy when you spot and kill an enemy.

the environment can be deadlier than any weapon...use Terrain to your advantage...higher ground...landmines in areas where you "could" be taking cover, rolling grenades, ricocheting them through doorways, and some basic cover.
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A thread isn't always meant to be happy happy phun land.
Some serious discussion is inevitable.

Oh and the list:
Harder enemys (Aka smarter) - Not confirmed IIRC and it should be based on difficulty not game-mode.
Cooking of food yourself - Not exclusive to HC mode.
You can craft poison, Tan hides, and make drugs/medicine - Not exclusive to HC mode.

"I had a laugh at this. You are thinking hardcoe mode is its own new game. No it just add's the survival aspects to the game. Think before you speak, study before you type."
Uh-huh...
So, we know how much each type of ammo is gonna weigh then?
If it's going to be weight by each round or each 10 rounds or each 20 rounds?
Of how the whole damage system works and how much ammo you actually need to make it through the wasteland?
Of how rare/easy and expensive/cheap the ammo is going to be at settlements?
Dude, I'm talking about the bigger picture here.
Overall game balance.
Changing the weight of the ammo does a lot more than you think.
It changes gameplay drastically. (And if not then what's the point of it?)

That's why I drew that anology, we only know what the house is like on the outside.
We have no idea how it actually is on the inside.


Ok first. This thread was made for fun, of course this thread is not serious. First off if you read some of the tips they are funny. Second, dont ruin the hopes for the game for everyone just cause your mad or somthing. I told you to end this conversation but you decided to continue. You are going to get this thread locked. Please if you want to argue make your own thread. Ammo is not 95% of hardcoe mode ethier. Can you not read. The first post, my post, says at bottom what this thread is about and how it will be changed when the game comes out. If you post one more thread that does not have non argumental things to say i will get you reported for not listing. I dont want to fight/argue, but you make it imposible. For when i explain we know we dont have all the info, you continue to lose people's hope in this game. Hard core mode will add hours more to gameplay, but not because of the aditonal content. It will add a survival aspects making the game dificult. The enemys will be harder based on level. But as i read, not confirmed, (non of this thread is confirmed except a few things) The enemys will be some what smarter and not just randomly attack you.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:01 am

Super Mutant overlords were made to kill you in Fallout 3, they couldnt even do that..know that in your head you are better than anything the big wasteland can throw at you, optimism is a powerful thing.

Maintain Neutrality to all things you see, think of all options before you act and determine which will help you survive better, your karma may take a hit, but youll be able to live long enough to turn that around..
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:11 am

Traps (no I am not talking about Tabitha) can always be used against your enemies. Be careful and plan your attacks to lure the enemy into it's own trap.



Also, people stop arguing. It's just a fun thread.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:45 am

Ok first. This thread was made for fun, of course this thread is not serious. First off if you read some of the tips they are funny. Second, dont ruin the hopes for the game for everyone just cause your mad or somthing. I told you to end this conversation but you decided to continue. You are going to get this thread locked. Please if you want to argue make your own thread. Ammo is not 95% of hardcoe mode ethier. Can you not read. The first post, my post, says at bottom what this thread is about and how it will be changed when the game comes out. If you post one more thread that does not have non argumental things to say i will get you reported for not listing. I dont want to fight/argue, but you make it imposible. For when i explain we know we dont have all the info, you continue to lose people's hope in this game. Hard core mode will add hours more to gameplay, but not because of the aditonal content. It will add a survival aspects making the game dificult. The enemys will be harder based on level. But as i read, not confirmed, (non of this thread is confirmed except a few things) The enemys will be some what smarter and not just randomly attack you.

I'm sorry wastelander24 for having an opinion that's different from yours.
And I'm sorry for trying to discuss something in a civil manner on a forum tab named "general discussion".
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:05 pm

I'm sorry wastelander24 for having an opinion that's different from yours.
And I'm sorry for trying to discuss something in a civil manner on a forum tab named "general discussion".


Hey, I don't want to annoy you. But sarcasm isn't going to help here. Just understand this topic was made for pure fun and speculation. If you keep arguing a moderator will come and lock this thread. We are going off-topic here.
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