Now you forget your manors, boy. Why so aggressive way to speak? And don't talk about educating when you don't have enough education to know how to use polite language. Using such abbreviations like "LOL" only shows how uncouth moron you are. Instead of "LOL" you can let me know which in-game books tells Dwemer are taller than Imperials and in which games you have found those books. And then you can answer to my question why their ghosts had same length with Bosmers in Morrowind? It's only ten years old game so you should easily remember their appearance.

So some of the main reasons that you won't wear the armor is being it doesn't fit with traditional fantasy? That is just plain stupid.

One thing that I think is great about TES is that it doesn't go with the traditional generic fantasy ideas.


Everyone has different opinions and I like the dragonbone, daedric, dwemer, orcish, iron and leather armors (I can agree with you on glass, and depending on the race of the character, elven)

Well, TES is likely not to be the only series to offend you. Many RPGs have tiers of armor or even unique suits that are quite visually distinct from your generic steel plate, and are likely not to appeal to everyone. Personally, I think daedric is pretty badass, but maybe that's because in Morrowind it was actually relatively rare and difficult to acquire. I agree glass looks a little wonky, but from what I've seen, isn't light armor's comparative advantage over heavy completely negated by perks in skyrim? Why would you even wear it?

The only game that I can think of off the top of my head that lets you aesthetically customize armor without changing its stats is Mass Effect 2, and if we're being honest, that's not really even an RPG.

Shortest playable race is one way to say it, by shortest civilized race I meant that it's civilization is high enough to be officially noticed race in Tamrielic Empire. But I believe we actually know all such civilized races on Tamriel. Of course there can be more on other continents on Mundus.

Lol@you insinuating the only canon lore is found from in-game books.

Delete this.

I met Dwarf\Dwemer ghosts in Morrowind. They were all short. even the one surviving Dwemer I found was short.

I suppose someone will say Morrowind don`t count any more.

...the continents of Mundus LOL? You just proved you have no knowledge of the lore of this series ROFL. The planet is not called Mundus, it's called Nirn, and Tamriel is the continent, separated into provinces such as Morrowind, Skyrim, High Rock, etc.



Mundus is the plane of existance in which Nirn is located.

Dwemer weren't short. They were at least as tall as any Mer. Taller than Bosmer, I believe.


Dwarven armor typically isn't. It's made using the methods of the Dwemer. It's a replica. At least, it was in Oblivion. There are real Dwemer ruins in Skyrim, so maybe it's the real deal.



Glass and ebony are the trademark of the Dunmer. I'll wear them if I'm playing a dunmer character, as they come from my homeland.


I'm also not a fan of Daedric armor.




Lol. There are more sources of canon than the ingame books. Dwemer weren't short.




"The Dwemer are often referred to as "Dwarves" in western cultures, although they were no shorter than a human and the name seems to have been derived from a supposed encounter with giants who saw the Dwemer as short. They were a reclusive, independent race, dedicated to the principles of science, alchemy, and engineering."

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer


"As previously mentioned, the Dwemer were no shorter than any other elven race, despite being classically described as such."

http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer#Appearance

They are the way to learn about the lore. And now days you can also found knowledge in uesp.net but all what is there is collected from games and in-game books. If you say you know something about lore let me know where it can be found. In Arena, Daggerfall, (Redguard, Battlespire,) Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim? Is it said in book or showed in game? But why can't you answer to me if you know Dwemer are taller than Imperials tell me which game has that knowledge and where it can be found and tell me then why the dwemer ghosts were not tall at all in Morrowind? You remember them, right?

This is a fictional world, different from Tolkeins or any other. Don't expect the game itself to know about the real world and how wrong people think it is compared to other fictional stories. It is a series of games about Tamriel, not Tolkein or some other mythology.

False. Lore is also gathered from sites contributed to by the lore writers of the series, the people who wrote the books in game in the first place.

All the mer have common ancestors; it wouldn't make sense if one race was randomly shorter than the other. I think it's good Bethesda don't just stick to other fantasy archetypes.

My main problem with your argument about dwarven armour is this though: dwarven armour is made from smelted down dwarven metal, which is smithed into dwarven armour. At no point do you find armour specifically made to actually fit a dwarve (to my knowledge).

do you think I'm stupid? Of course I know the continent is Tamriel and have the provinces. And yes planet is Nirn, that's truth, but Mundus is the realm where the Nirn exists.

Glass armor needs to be re-designed entirely

It is not glass in the sense of a glass window, it is obsidian glass which is very strong and makes decent weaponry in real life. It is also not the color of puke, and should be re-designed to match the Vvanderfell Ashlands for which it comes from. Like the "light" version of ebony, not the armor version of baby poop.

Look up. I pointed you to the lore.




EDIT!: Also, uesp is NOT just compiled from ingame books. It's also things learned from quests, dialog, plotlines and things devs have said. You might also check out


http://www.imperial-library.info/




Just steer clear of some of their community. Kinda snobbish.

dwemer/dwarves are not tiny (please think of the TES lore since you claim to know it), orcs are not lord of the rings rip-offs, deadric is a deadra (soul) forced into the shape of armour for you to wear, but i agree with the glass armour point that is the dumbest armour ever

Uh, lol. You just said EXACTLY what I just said which is in direct contradiction to your previous post rofl. Just stop. You have no clue of the lore of this series and you are making yourself look absurdly stupid.

Dwemer were average height beings, taller than Imperials. This is a widely known accepted fact. Deal with it, or don't, I truly don't care, but your "opinion" on the matter is irrelevant.

Go to the lore forums right now and ask, every single lore buff will reply with the same facts.

I dunno why it's so hard.

DWEMER/DWARVES ARE SHORT... not in height... It's because they spend a lot of of time stooped over in the mines. Hence the image that they seem to be shortar.... Err... Vertically challenged.

Fail topic
Why? - Satan doesn't wear armor... DUH
He wears a #15 Broncos jersey
/thread

As others have pointed out, Dwarven Armor isn't armor at all. It's machine parts from their robots not armor that they made for themselves. It's in one of the books of Skyrim.

It's opinion. I mostly agree with the OP. Many of the weapons and armor have been fantasied up in Skyrim, with swords and axes 3x the size of the real thing and armor with all sorts of spiky what nots sticking out. OTOH there are many things that have been done much better, especially the reduced prevalence of the fantasy style armors. At level 30 I still meet opponents mostly decked out in steel, leather and hide. For my own character it's easy, I wear armor that is in character.
Assassin/Swordsman/Thief wears thieves guild armor (IMHO a very reasonable looking leather)
Legionaire wears legion armor and only legion armor.
Mage wears no armor at all - ever.

If I'm not wearing it and relatively few NPCs are wearing it then it doesn't really bother me.

You just keep saying same things in impolite ways. Why can't you just answer depending on your own experience and knowledge of Morrowind why Dwemer ghosts weren't tall in the game? You say that they are tall in lore so if you know that's so just tell me then why they were so short in Morrowind? I want honest answer for that.

And please stop using those lol and rofl. They are not English which is only allowed language on the forums. They are just impolite and make you to sound like a moron. Thanks.

Ohmes: Similar in many ways to the Bosmer, although generally of lesser stature.
Do I need to mention Alfiq?

This is so off-topic...

My issue is simply with crafting it period. Daedric armor and weapons, are summoned from the Plane of Oblivion. At least that's the way it used to be, and explained the other-wordly look to it. It wasn't of this world

Now any shmuck who practices enough can simply craft it. lolwut?