I agree with the distaste for the higher tier armors. They are much too flashy, I would much rather the more gritty and rugged looking things from M&B and Witcher I & II.
But OP you're getting upset over minor technicalities, if the worst the devs have done is create some minor inconsistancies with the lore, real world definitions, and armor then why are you complaining?

I personally prefer daedra with the steed stone activated as i em high elf battle mage so dont pay penalty for heavy armor. Also i enchanted armor for destruction/magic regen as well to support my pyromaniac character. ( like the way fireballs explode and set surrounding ablaze especially when sneak attacking)

Dwemer

The Dwemer were a fabled lost race of Mer hailing from Dwemereth, the region that is now Morrowind. Their ruins and artifacts are scattered across Tamriel, specifically within Hammerfell (mainly in the mountains of Stros M'Kai), High Rock, Skyrim and Morrowind. Meric races use the term "Dwemer," which translates to "deep," "deep-counseled," or "secretive" people. They are alternatively known as Dwarves, a term used by Imperials and possibly created by the giants, the Ehlnofey of the Velothi Mountains. They formed free-thinking, yet reclusive dwarven clans devoted to the secrets of science, engineering, and the arcane.

I really miss the city guard armors from Oblivion they looked so nice

Btw its really hard to get a hold of some guard armor without killing someone or steal it. I dont wanna join the theves guild just for fences

i feel for you because i too miss an armor the iron armor from morrowind

If you don't like the look of higher tier armor you can always, I don't know, NOT WEAR THEM.

It's the case with every game ever made, you want to use something just because it looks cool but another uncool equipment would be much better, this dilemma has been and will be around forever.

Also just because Dwemer and Orcs made those armor, it doesn't make it that they are the only one who could wear them. Not to mention armor are already magically changing be it plate, leather, hide or anything.

FFS

First World Problems

About the Dwemer, they are called by Imperials (and other humans) as Dwarves but they are actually Dwemer as they are called by other Mer. Anyway it's wrong idea that they are tall as wrong as the idea that they'll short as Dwarves. They are more like the size of Bosmer who are shortest living and civilized race in Tamriel. In Morrowind you can see easily that Dwemer ghosts have same length with Bosmers which is far more shorter than Nords are.

what yousay about the armors is right but there have always been some good looking armors in every game. Iron Chainmail and Nordic armors in Morrowind. Mithril and Ebony in Oblivion. Stormcloak officer, Imperial, Studded, Scale, Plate, Fur, Iron, Guard, Old Nordic and Dragon scale in Skyrim.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about LOL. Dwemer are tall, not short. Read some lore.

Why their ghosts then are as short as Bosmers in Morrowind?

Why jump on the OP because he doesn't like the armor? In particular he doesn't like the fact that his Nord character must wear elven and glass armor, which makes total sense. Those armor don't fit with the whole nordic feel. They don't. I too like the more realistic looking armors in the game: fur/thieves' guild/DB for light and steel plate (sans helmet)/wolf armor/orcish for the heavy. That's my preference. I think glass armor looks silly on my Nord barbarian and I'm always looking for ways to mod it out of my game. It would be nice to have greater choice in armor styles. Not everyone likes the high fantasy option.

You have a great mod like http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3871 that brings variety to weapons without imbalance, how about some variety to armor?

The game doesnt make you wear any kind of armor, its all down to preference.

So he is offered the choice of a) gimping his character for aesthetics, wearing armor that he doesn't think his character would choose to wear c) taking perks that he may not want like smithing and light armor to work off the difference. I don't know, I THINK THERE ARE BETTER SOLUTIONS THAN THAT.

Yeah seriously. Uh, when does the game "force" you to wear elven armor on your Nord, sixgunsam? Never is when.

Also, Dwemer ARE NOT SHORT. READ THE LORE.

How are you gimped? Any armor can hit the cap when smithed, and you dont need to perk smithing either. If your going to wear armor, and NOT smith it, and then also NOT perk armor skills it means its your own damn fault your characters armor is crap.

At the end it shows up that you are short of the lore-knowledge. Nowhere has ever been said that Dwemer are tall. It's only said "the Dwemer were no shorter than any other elven race". This makes it be possible that they have same length with another elven race - Bosmers. We have seen that being so in Morrowind so why to doubt it? They are not tall and they are not short - they are Bosmer-sized.

Like I said, then you're forced to perk into smithing. That is not a satisfactory choice.

Are there now?

So should be there a special "helmetless bonus" for people who doesn't like helmets either? There should be a "magic-less bonus" for people who doesn't want to use magic? Should maces and axes be at the same swing speed as swords for people who don't want to use swords?

If you value aesthetics over the actual mechanics of the game, prepare to face the consequences.

Giants called them dwarves... they might as well be as large as Altmer.

No your not, you never are thats the point. You dont want to smith? Raise your armor skill instead. Its not rocket science. You dont even need perking to make armor hit the cap, you never have. Leather armor can hit the cap and it has no smithing perk.

Well, we don't know all living and civilized races in Tamriel, so I wouldn't assume Bosmer are the shortest. They are the shortest playable race - and only before Skyrim. In Skyrim, Breton and Khajiit are tied as the shortest race. I don't know how they're described in the lore, though.

I'm one of the people who don't understand why Dwemer should be tall. The only one we meet (ghost in Morrowind) is not tall at all.

Again, you have no clue what you are talking about LOL. There is plenty of lore on the Dwemer. They are actually just a bit taller than imperials, not quite as tall as Altmer. Head on up to the Imperial Library and learn something champ.

Not going to deal with your ignorant post anymore until you educate yourself.

you aren't forced to smith or do anything, at all, in this game. in fact, if possible i'll probably eventually have a character that never levels up or uses perks.

Yup, the armor choices are limited, the style choices are limited, none of it I think looks good at all...and that is why I stay in first person mode and CRINGE when the game camera swings out to show a finishing move.

But...hey...watch gonna do? One efficiency the game engine uses if to limit the look and component parts of armor, so until Bethesda really sits down and says, "We need to do this different so we can accomplish this, this and this," then the game will stay the same.

My top three list of changes I would make would be:
1) Allow for FAR more character creation possibilities...fewer restrictions...more freedom for size, shape, age, and muscularity/obesity of the bodies.
2) A armor system with 10x as many choices, AND the ability to mix and match pieces w/ color, hue, shiny/dullness and new/well-used finishes on all that armor.
3) A central story with ALL content (major quests, minor quests, side missions, and helping NPCs all feeding on/off of that main story. (A cohesive narrative for that world for that time you are in it.)

This. Check out the lore behind a phrase behind enraging yourself to insanity out in the public.
Now, dwarven armor looks like that because they were into techs. Elven armor is pretty because elves are pretty. Glass looks like a green lantern because glass is [censored] green? Daedric armor makes you look demonic because the armor has [censored] demon souls infused in it? It's kinda easy to relate an armor to a certain culture by it's aesthetics.
Orcs are slim because bethesda chose to make them slim. If I wanna call a seven headed snail with daedric tower on it's back and a jar of cookies made of human brains in each of it's 20 hands an orc, I will do so. Tolkien didn't place a copyright on how should an Orc look.
Also you are not forced to wear daedric armor because it's stronger than fur, but it does make a lot of freakin sense that demonic ebony crafted plate is going to defend better than a layer of goat fur on your chest. Roleplay. I have a character that is an ashlander by his lore and I wear only chitin armor. I don't have problems with daedric armor because it's stronger than mine.
Get a grip, and think about what you're going to post before you post some crap like this.


I'm still waiting for a day when a game will come out and there won't be a bunch of hypocrits flaming on a good game they'll spend next 200+ hours in over some minor [censored].

I haven't found any armor that I like in Skyrim yet. I think only mods can make a armor that I like.