I dont know. He was part of the conspiracy of profiting off the nuclear war. That was the plan wasnt it. Devised by the Enclave to end Communism adn rebuild Capitalist America with teh help of corporations like Rob CO and Vault-Tec making millions if not billions in the process.


Yes he has given up much to protect the area around Vegas but he did it to control land and become a new ruler, rich and powerful in this new era. He wants control and power. If all those things useless to him why does he continue to want more? He wants more time on earth, he wants more money, thats why he controls Vegas adn is trying to consolidate control ovder it, to make himself a rich and powerful man in this new world. Its all about power and control hes not all helping people to rebuild civilization.

He wants to rebuild. Money is useless to him personally. And controlling the land ? He dosent care about helios or anywhere just vegas. Focusing on rebuilding before expanding. He is no different to the ncr, it wants to control everything, so dose the legion and so do you, if you choose yes man. Whatever you choose someone has control, its just who would you like toi be in control, t5he legion are brutal but keep order, the ncr are democratic but weak, house is jsut the best.

You don't have to

I dont agree. He wants to control and be powerful like in the old world, his tiime was 200 years ago he helped screw it up 200 years ago, so he does not get a say.

I just dont agree that he is the best.

I think I know what you're referring to and quite frankly I found that option to be worse than death...

I agree, I'd rather be killed than live a year of imprisonment. :cryvaultboy:

Well not really, you know that the NCR are the enemies right, the way my character sees it, House is helping wastelanders,

He talks about colonising other worlds with them in about 100 years when he's restarted technological progress so.... yeah, not having wastelanders become human colonists, and besides, helping the Legion damaga the NCR and possiblily defeat it is worth more than House's life.

I have the same problem as OP. Sure it gives me a chilling sensation of joining the dark side but if I look at the situation cooly and logically I cannot get way from the facts.

House spent millions of prewar dollers (possibly billions given inflation) to secure "his town". He couldnt save them all but he could save some.

House could have turned Vegas into a far worse [censored]ehole or facist city state if he had so desired.

House has a degree of tolerance that the NCR, BoS and Legion has not. He will tolerate other factions to co-exist within his realm.

House is human. Yesman is an AI and it takes little imagination to deduct what Yesman can/will do with his "assirtivenes".

House raised Vegas from ruins to economic major if not superpower in the space of decades.

House is a math genious, an Economic genie and a Machiavellian politician at the same.

House has potential access to prewar tech and blueprints that the NCR and BoS can only dream of.

House wishes to push humanity forward. Toward prosperity, industry, spacetravel. He does not wish to keep america in a pseudo-pre industiralized state such as the Legion.

Houses economic drive cannot help but have a "tricle down" effect in the long run.

Houses lust for power is driven not for something as "crude" as money or finance but the betterment of Vegas and eventually America as a whole. Sooner or later that will spread to other nations where there will be survivors too.

House controlls the robots in Vegas. If yes man got the reins, then the robots would controll the humans.

House is not the return to prewar politics. Thats the NCR and look where that ended.

House will make his extensive knowledge of medicine available to certain individuals with is basically spreading the wealth, because those will in turn spread this knowledge more and research further into it.

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In short I see a crapload of reasons to join house aside from personal gain which will be substancial. I see few reasons to go against him.

Independence and freedom means jack if you can't feed your kids and if you have no shelter. Pride and honor feels hollow if you are forced to see your kids die from pnemonia and your wife from childbirth.

House. All the way. All the time. The House allways wins

Well the Enclave never had anything more than their oilrig and the vertibird refueling station at Navarro. The oilrig was nuked and Navarro got ravaged by the NCR and the Chosen One.

Role play the change of heart if you can't kill him, I get that with the Khans as of yet I always go for a better and better way of helping them.

Just because you can't face killing house does not mean you have to do anything else similar in game;
After 4 full playthroughs and countless characters spread at all points in game, I've yet to see even a romotely similar story event pop up.

As with all roleplaying games, create a character that is separate from your own moral values. Don't let personal feelings get in the way.

Hell, the disgustingly low pay he offers considering the amount of work you do for him (and considering that money is apparently a "non-issue" for him) is enough to get me annoyed. Then add the fact of how his take-over was handled, how Freeside ended up.

Hell, the little... note we get after you kill him should be enough to not regret your decision.

I find opening that tin can of rancid meat sith lord wanna be and putting a bunch of :gun: holes in him very liberating.

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I pitied him when he said his last words.

He does sound like a guy i could side with, but if you need a motivation to go against him: take power for yourself. I like having somebody I like in power, but I like being in power myself more.

I always kill the khans in new ways. Flamethrower, C4, mines, mini nuke. They svck.

Wow, when you put it like that...

Eh? What made you think I haven't played the game? I've beaten it sided with Mr. House. From what I saw, it's never known if Mr. House is actually human or an AI. Maybe I missed something?

Thats what I was doing, until I met up with House again..

Once he started talking and elaberating his plan and the information about the Chip, I was like "Can I really be a better leader than this guy?"

I guess something else that's going for House (in my view) is that he reminds me a bit of President Eden in Fallout 3, and Eden is was my favorite character in that game (he is the President after all). They're both charasmatic and brillant leaders who will do what it takes to rebuild the world.

Plus House has his own private securitron army.... :drool:

In that case house is human. He however is like a brain in a jar, but the brain is his entire body, that looks like it has been augumented with machinery. He is a cyborg in a jar pretty much, opening it even for a second exposes him to bacteria, his immune system is dead due to a sterile environment, he dies. So he is pretty much trapped there, but can express himself through the enhancements linking him to his comupter, and from there the 38/securitons.

Which is why people are wrong when they say how he can be corrupted. He cant actually go outside of the machine, and nothing can come in. And he already has eternal life. He dosent want worship either he sealed up the 38 after all
so he didnt care about people worshiping him. Yet he rebuilt. And the ideea of power. Power is a means, not an end. He domesticated vegas and set up a thriving economy in 5 years! He managed to get things up in running just intime to greet the ncr. That is impressive, house has preformed a miracle. The thing the ncr/legion are after (the mojave) is only prized because of house, had he ot saved it it would be even worse, no one would want it. And his dislike of the NCR is prefectly justified. He has no issue with them aside from them wanting to steal vegas. he is correct, the ncr want you to kill him, you could have been a ambasador between the two, but no ncr wants you dead. House on the other hand has you stop an assassination against the ncr. House > NCR

House > Eden

I liked Autumn more, his idea was controling the wastes and rebuilding that way. The BoS were too weak to ensure the water stays safe, and lets face it they just did it to gain control, and establish a foothold. Dont kid yourself just because bethesda made them knights in shining power armour.
And no, no one can be a better leader, no one knows as much technology, has as much resources, planning, everything.

Ahh sounds very cool! How do you find his body? I searched the Lucky 38 for like 2 hours trying to find him.

*By body I mean brain, hehe I guessed he would probably be a brain in a jar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoFNGK9TBkA&feature=related
only see him by killing him.

Well have you tried this: Skip seeing Mr. House right away. You're a pretty important fella, make HIM wait. Take your revenge on Benny first... and get back that chip which is rightfully yours. Then, and only after you have recovered YOUR platinum chip, go see Mr. House. If you let Mr. House play you like a fiddle, you'll willingly hand over the chip. But try and say no... just try and hold it a little longer. Watch and listen to Mr. House's reaction. Then show him who's boss!

Would never happen, the Enclave wouldn't share power with House and would view him as a threat, and house is concerned with building a new world, not continuing the same behavior that led to its destruction. House would sooner cousy up to the BoS then the Enclave and vice a versa.



The Enclave can't have a territory, they operated in complete secretly coming out of hiding for the first time in Fallout 2. They simply don't have the numbers to maintain a visible territory. They'll continue to operated out of secret bunkers and vaults until they are exterminated for good.


The Enclave is broken, plain and simple they didn't have the numbers to tackle the NCR head on in 2241. Let alone after the destruction of the Oil Rig, the loss of Navarro. Most of there forces fled east to Raven's Rock and Adam's Airforce base. Those who stayed behind either went into hiding or were hunted down by the brotherhood or the NCR.

Remember the Brotherhood of Steel had an advantage of tech but couldn't beat the NCR's numbers. The Enclave has the same problem to an even greater degree,


Considering the NCR has a few captured Vertibrids one can assume Caesar has some anti-aircraft weapons in reserve.

People forget that the Enclave ran America before the great war from the shadows they were at the helm when the world was plunged into atomic fire. They were behind the vault experiment program[as they had the equipment to monitor the vaults], and they attempted mass genocide TWICE. They care nothing for anyone who isn't the Enclave. Fallout 3 correctly demonstrates the results of helping the Enclave, just give Col. Autumn the password for project purity while your captured and see what happens. If your not pure human your garbage.
And no one outside the Enclave qualifies, even Vault Dwellers are treated as disposable tools.


And the Enclave is strong enough to do he job? with or without genocide? The Enclave couldn't stop one tribal and his friends from blowing up there mainbase the Poseidon Oil Rig, they couldn't stop the NCR from overrunning Navarro.

I'll take the good guys over the tyrants thank you.

It was easy for Katalin to disconnect Mr. House. She could see how self-centered he really was; she had seen the outer areas of New Vegas. Too many of the rich and powerful forget there are other people who help them to get that way. With all of his wealth, there were no House-supported organizations helping the rest of the people to survive. His inner New Vegas circle of New Vegas Casino bosses were even making deals with Caesar. Some Casino Families had slaves and didn't really care if they lived or died. House knew it and allowed it. He supported slavery. Humans OWNING other human beings instead of paying an honest wage. This was Katalin's main reason for doing all of those fetch-it jobs for the NCR and others who would end up being allies for the battle. They were the only ones who had the resources to fight off the Legion. With all of their leadership problems, they had enough people who actually cared about other people to put their own lives on the line. Quartermaster Barden at Hoover Dam was the person she spoke with who said it best. Before New Vegas, Katalin had a simple Courier job. All she wanted was an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. No slavery, not ever. It was her issue, her focus. That's why Katalin's chance meeting with Boone was Destiny personified - and the rest is now history....

Before I ever knew there was a Boone, I knew the Legion and anyone who supported slavery would be Katalin's enemy. It's a matter of principle.

Autumn killing you was perfectly acceptable, you were a hreat to his plan, eden would have you use the FEV, autumn could only garuntee it didnt happen by killing you.

In that case no one is strong, in 3 one vault dweller killed off the nentire BoS, the Enclave, Outcasts, everyone.
In NV BoS, House, CL, NCR, Kings, Boomers, Khans, list goes on. You cant say a faction is weak when its onyl weak for game reasons. Ignoring your character which is only sring for gameplay enclave would win.

I choose order of chaos, Autumns enclave would have control, eden was just a tool for moral, a symbol. Now useless, then the enclave could rebuild. House is lik them, order, he dosent treat everyone nicely, but it is the best thing in the situation. Keep your "good" ncr. When it crumbles enjoy the [censored]storm that follows. And it will fall, over stretched, too much red tape, and setting its sights to high.


Havent seen slaves in the strip.

Check the girls dancing in front of the Casinos...slave collars. And Dazzle says she was bought.