In the words of Mr. House

May there be an unending tartarus for you. :stare:

@Mike- Actually, the kings deaths are avoidable, if you incite the kings to war against NCR, House sees this as a sign of their loyalty to New Vegas and ignores them.

Yeah, but i like the brotherhood. There ideals is to stop people getting more technology that would simply ruin the planet some more. Imagine the legion or the NCR or the khans got nucleur weapons, would that help the mojave? I dont think so. Also i think some people are sore that they got a explosive collar stuck on em when they arrived at their bunker, but thats just security

Yeah, but i like the brotherhood. There ideals is to stop people getting more technology that would simply ruin the planet some more.

Yes-Man wants you to do it too. And for good reason, the BoS are a bunch of crybabies when someone has better tech than them, House wants you to kill them because it's likely that they would go to war with New Vegas.

The Bos if you have better tech=http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii97/Martyr_of_Death/crybaby.jpg

Edit @ Name- You never mention that the NCR sent an ambassador to meet with The Kings, then the King will ask you to help Pacer wipe out the NCR guys at the train yard. (Warning though, be sure to have a good rep with NCR, as this dropped me from accepted to mixed, so if you're neutral, the NCR wont like you at all.)

But I didn't kill him. He wanted me to but I wouldn't.

The BoS also becomes more reasonable once it gets a new leader or the current elder is convinced that they should end the lockdown. In a way, it's like Vault 101 in Fallout 3.

If one sides with the NCR, they can be convinced to become allied with the BoS, which I really like.

Yeah the reasonable part ends when you have them work with ncr and the new elder.

House has a good point about the BoS, you only see them after weapons, never autodocs, prostetic limbs or anything that isnt about killing.
Also I have my safehouse, I just need to complete the quests for exp then the ncr can go die. Allthough I would like to keep boone.

Mhm, hence in terms of BoS, I only like the Eastern BoS. You CAN keep Boone if you play your cards right. It's just a matter of how you play your cards. Raise your NCR level to Liked, and then do the Kings mission. I hate being near NCR after the quest, having a good and bad rep with NCR, All their 'IDK why you find it hard to pick a side' crap annoying. I'm so glad the game can't tell when I use a faction. :spotted owl:

As for the BoS, when I get my power armor training and a suit of T-51b, I'll blow their tin canned behinds to kingdom come. What kind of idiot has a hackable self destruct terminal anyway? :spotted owl:

House is a idiot. What kind of idiot makes it easy to open that little tube of his, should of had a very hard password to open it or something. Heh i left him to slowly rot

The kind who enslave you then expect you to be friends telling you all thier secrets. And selling you equipment. I will rob them blind stock up then blow them up. Just like the legion. I am mr houses ace, and assassin. God I love how I can sneak into other groups and [censored] them up for my prefered group.

He still should have had a password incase anyone was to break into the lucky 38. And he was an idiot for trusting a stranger

He still should have had a password incase anyone was to break into the lucky 38. And he was an idiot for trusting a stranger

Not a self destruct code, a password to open his little tube that keeps him alive. Or even better, make it impossible to open his little tube. But like kicenna says, it was his arrogance that killed him

Not a self destruct code, a password to open his little tube that keeps him alive. Or even better, make it impossible to open his little tube. But like kicenna says, it was his arrogance that killed him

In reality, I'm sure he would, but for the sake of the player, I think they made it that easy. Just realistically, it'd be hard to blow up a Pre-War government bunker that the BoS dwell in.

I think alot of people forget the 'suspension of disbelief' area an RPG game entails.

He refuses to tell you anything until you give him the chip. I wanted to keep my options open when playing, but if you do that her trys to kill you. He treats you like a servant. In the ending he kills off the kings, who frankly did nothing wrong. And i accepted the Brotherhood sticking a collar on me, because they needed too keep security tight. They were talking about survival. And for good reason, house NCR CL all wanted to wipe the brotherhood out. While house trys to kill you simply cause you wanted some answers, and you wanted to find out why you were shot.

Anyway the top 3 members of the brotherhood kept the password to the self destruct system. Much better than a few securitrons, which were pretty pathetic at fighting.

He refuses to tell you anything until you give him the chip. I wanted to keep my options open when playing, but if you do that her trys to kill you.

He treats you like a servant. In the ending he kills off the kings, who frankly did nothing wrong.

And i accepted the Brotherhood sticking a collar on me, because they needed too keep security tight.

They were talking about survival. And for good reason, house NCR CL all wanted to wipe the brotherhood out.

While house trys to kill you simply cause you wanted some answers, and you wanted to find out why you were shot.

Anyway the top 3 members of the brotherhood kept the password to the self destruct system. Much better than a few securitrons, which were pretty pathetic at fighting.

In the ending he kills off the kings, who frankly did nothing wrong.

And i accepted the Brotherhood sticking a collar on me, because they needed too keep security tight. They were talking about survival.

Anyway the top 3 members of the brotherhood kept the password to the self destruct system. Much better than a few securitrons, which were pretty pathetic at fighting.

No one else but House has use for the chip, thats a terrible excuse.
Dosnt stop him from telling me why he needs the chip. He basically went, give me the chip or i will kill you, shows the mans arrogance

Entirely avoidable, all you have to do is keep the Kings from aligning with NCR.
Does not explain why house wiped out the kings in the first place. Shows what kind of person he is

House needs to keep security tight, I dont ever recall a slave collar being put on me by House.
House was an idiot not too, a few securitrons with 9mm sub machine guns isnt enough to keep a truly dangerous enemy out.

I would want a terrorist cell wiped out too.
Terrorist cell? They are just another faction trying to survive. Please explain how the brotherhood are a terrorist cell

Resorting to lying are we? He only attempts to kill you if you refuse to hand over HIS platinum chip.
No reason why he could not tell us why he needs his platinum chip, the courier has every right to ask what he will do with the platinum chip, he was shot in the head for it after all
Humans only need a few pistol shots in the chest to die. Harder to kill than Securitrons? I think not.
What if that human is carring power armour and several effective weapons. I think so

@Guy above you choose the weak ncr (which seems like it will colapse any time now) or the uncivilised legion over house ? And yes man option will result in anarchy, or skynet.
House said it best "you want to see how old world democracies got us, look outside the window" and many other great words. I cant kill him.

Autumn killing you was perfectly acceptable, you were a hreat to his plan, eden would have you use the FEV, autumn could only garuntee it didnt happen by killing you.

The fact that they were Kings was enough for me. I clapped at the end when I found out Mr. House had eliminated them, "To the last man."