Headline: ESO - The most negatively received "reveal&#34

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:28 pm

I laughed so hard!
it was hillarious
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WYatt REed
 
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:59 pm

Im so on the fence with this. I know im going to atleast try it. I love the series and dont want to be closed minded on something that isnt even out yet.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:38 am

more or less. theres usually options to move/disable things though.
Thanks.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:42 am

Woah..you played it?! Give us the details!

Yup, it's called World of Warcraft. And Guild Wars. And Everquest. And Rift. And supposedly there was something about The Elder Scrolls, but I never saw it.

x) so true.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:20 pm

World of Warcraft has a unique system, that is unique to itself, didn't copy off of another developer with Mechanics, or anything. The success was permanent. Blizzard was genius to create something new, and unique.

Hahaha do you really believe this? WoW wasn't innovative at all.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:43 pm

Hahaha do you really believe this? WoW wasn't innovative at all.

True - even Blizzard devs have admitted they don't innovate, but they are masters of execution.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:12 pm

No, we're just tired of the same type of MMO. We want something new, but it's yet another hotkey type. Many of us don't like that, or are just plain tired of it. Is that so hard to understand? That we thought a TES MMO would try and push the envelope and try something new?

How can you have an MMO which DOESN'T involve spamming 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0?

I've never branded an MMO as "hotkey type" or not. They're MMOs. MMO=I use my keyboard to kill stuff.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:19 pm

How can you have an MMO which DOESN'T involve spamming 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0?

I've never branded an MMO as "hotkey type" or not. They're MMOs. MMO=I use my keyboard to kill stuff.

I think He's going on more about tab targeting and no-skill required gameplay. Most games have Hotkeys btw not just MMO's (For example FPS Shooters 1-2-3-4-5 etc change weapon) and you can have MMO's which arent 1-2-3-4-5 repeat 1-2-3-4-5 repeat. Planetside for instance, FPS MMO with huge battles. Darkfall Online, skill based combat (no targeting) which could handle 1000's of players fighting at the same time, both these examples aren't about button mashing abilities on CD.

Its possible but no one seems to get the idea to make something different. Tis sad, skill based/sand box TES world would of been alot of fun.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:07 pm

Everything we know about the game so far makes we want to throwup
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:13 pm

Everything we know about the game so far makes we want to throwup

Perhaps a trip to the urgent care center is in order...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:46 am

How can you have an MMO which DOESN'T involve spamming 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0?

Uh... you can. Ultima Online, Meridian 59, Neverwinter Nights on AOL.... But these are really old games and I dont blame you for having this impression that it's not possible. It's the state of the industry whereas they think the only way to make a succesfull MMO is copy EQ and WoW.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:51 pm

Everything we know about the game so far makes we want to throwup

I hear you man :( but we'll see. Who knows.. maybe the reception of the fanbase will make them reconsider some core aspects and mechanics.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:58 am

I hear you man :( but we'll see. Who knows.. maybe the reception of the fanbase will make them reconsider some core aspects and mechanics.
I'm really hoping the gameplay trailer surprises us with something truly amazing. I'm not holding out hope though cause everything I see so far is a warning sign. Time will tell I guess
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:50 pm


I run a site that used to be one of the primary communities for DAoC players, the reaction there is not positive or filled with any excitement whatsoever.

May I ask what site that is? I used to be a hardcoe DAoC player. I played from release until like 2007.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:13 am

You didn't correctly diagnose the problem, but close. The game will end up like that, people won't play because of it, and it will fail. That's the problem, and it's not solved.

But how does that effect you?

If you won't like the game, why does it matter to you if it fails? You won't be playing.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:31 am

Look I did explain to you about disingenious arguments I believe half a year ago when we were on opposite sides in the Skyrim forum.

Now that we are I suppose on the same side it does not make it any better.
For this side to have any legitimacy we need to employ proper logic and reasonable arguments.
'Shut up or shove off' just makes you look like a [] and no-one is helped by that.

So just for the love of Julianos: learn

MUATRA AE EHLNOFEX ALTADOON

By my weapon, I understand you.

Making demands to scrap the game, or change the entire foundation of it, and play the victim role because a studio is making a game you don't like, isn't proper logic nor a reasonable argument.

What you "explain" to me serves of little merit to me, as in all honesty, I don't really hold much credence to your opinions either. I think they are based in the same emotional sensationalism, extremist claims and selfish views that plague this forum.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:12 pm


Making demands to scrap the game, or change the entire foundation of it, and play the victim role because a studio is making a game you don't like, isn't proper logic nor a reasonable argument.

What you "explain" to me serves of little merit to me, as in all honesty, I don't really hold much credence to your opinions either. I think they are based in the same emotional sensationalism, extremist claims and selfish views that plague this forum.

:rofl:
You truly are hilarious.
People have every right to their opinion and that is something that you continuously forget.

I have given walls of text explaining why this game does not break lore, why it fits into the Elder Scrolls series (Not the TES series, the ES series which also has Battlespire etc.) and in general have been quite busy providing a differing opinion against the tide of negativity.
I dont really care, as its quite unimportant, that my explanations have very little merit for you however it does chafe that we are supposedly on the same side of the argument here as it is quite unhelpful to have you barge in all the time telling people to swallow or shut up.

Relatively hilarious and increasingly baffling is why you would accuse me of those things you write.
I can only assume you were been looking in a mirror at the time.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:56 pm

But how does that effect you?
Because it means we won't get a proper TES MMO if they flub this up. If TESO fails, they're not going to think "darn, they really wanted a TES game to play like TES. let's start over and try again." They're going to think "well, people don't seem to want to play a TES MMO. should probably stop spending money on the idea."

And if TESO doesn't fail, then we still won't get a proper TES MMO. They'll just keep going with what they've got.

The only real option I can see is if people complain loud enough, maybe they'll realize where the problem is and fix it, instead of just writing off the idea of ever doing a TES MMO again. Though that's mostly wishful thinking, sadly.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:40 pm

Everything we know about the game so far makes we want to throwup

I can only imagine what getting actual details about the game mechanics would do to you.

We have next-to-no information, really. Just the vaguest description of what's to come. Maybe if you wait for some real information, you can develop informed opinions instead of knee-jerk reactions.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:44 am

Well, Bioware sort of listened to their fans and decided to do the bare minimum to appease them. I know Bethesda is a better company and would do a lot to appease fans in regards to The Elder Scrolls, shame they are not making it.

Zenimax on the other hand, they obviously just want to make a generic MMO to cash in, they probably have their heads stuck so deep in the sand they could never hope to hear the fans.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:04 pm

Wasn't there a huge negative outlook on morrowind as well? After a couple games being released badly from BGS I remember that people didn't think Morrowind would be any good.

Note: We all know it's a different company. I am giving an example.

I have high hopes and negative feelings for this game. huh... Seems to me that ES:O is as confusing as a woman.

Not sure why, but this is my favorite forum post since the announcement of TESO
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:07 am

Because it means we won't get a proper TES MMO if they flub this up. If TESO fails, they're not going to think "darn, they really wanted a TES game to play like TES. let's start over and try again." They're going to think "well, people don't seem to want to play a TES MMO. should probably stop spending money on the idea."

And if TESO doesn't fail, then we still won't get a proper TES MMO. They'll just keep going with what they've got.

The only real option I can see is if people complain loud enough, maybe they'll realize where the problem is and fix it, instead of just writing off the idea of ever doing a TES MMO again. Though that's mostly wishful thinking, sadly.

Is that really such a big deal?

I mean, it svcks, and I'm just as disappointed in the current info about the game as anyone, but if we don't get a "proper" TES MMO, is it really that big of a deal to come on here and act like a victim with an entitlement complex?

I'm not talking about you specifically, just the overwhelming attitude on this forum. People take the state of a video game way too seriously.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:52 pm

When those elemnts wouldn't work in a MMO setting......... yes

IF this was a COOP game I would agree with you entierly

Detailed character creation and a first person view? Large, detailed worlds that feel alive? There's nothing technical stopping any of that from happening.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:28 pm

Detailed character creation and a first person view? Large, detailed worlds that feel alive? There's nothing technical stopping any of that from happening.

Star Wars Galaxies anyone?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:46 pm

No, we're just tired of the same type of MMO. We want something new, but it's yet another hotkey type. Many of us don't like that, or are just plain tired of it. Is that so hard to understand? That we thought a TES MMO would try and push the envelope and try something new?

Who is "we" in this case?

I personally believe a lot of people self-hyped this possibility and when hit with the reality of what Zenimax Online wants to do, they crumble. I do agree that I would have expected that if a TES MMO happened, it would try something new but these days "taking risks" isn't exactly the most gaining.

By this I mean look at Star Wars: The Old Republic. A lot of production costs, it's the first fully voiced MMO (At least in the western market and to my knowledge) and while it's not doing bad, it could do better, especially with the current news of losing 400,000 from the initial 1.7 million subscribers they had and that's only 5 months into the games lifespan.

I also feel that due to these very high expectations, people are shooting this and leaving it to die before it even gets off the ground. Like everyone else here, I am an avid Elder Scrolls fan but right now I feel like I'm the only one who is open minded enough to at least allow Zenimax Online a chance.

People also seem to forget that this is Zenimax Online's first public game...sure the team itself is full of industry veterans but it must be very daunting to not only make a great first and long lasting MMO but also the fact they will be using the Elder Scrolls, meaning it will be a high caliber title, which you all are already showing how high the bar is set on your criteria of expectations.

Furthermore, don't you all think you are acting a little spoilt? As much as I love the Elder Scrolls singleplayer games, over the recent years I have noticed a significant change within the community...it's getting to the point that graphics is all someone will ever think about these days.

Overall, I can't wait to see what Zenimax Online and Bethseda Softworks accomplish and if it doesn't meet my expectations then it's no skin off my back as I have the single player games to fall back on and the future single player games to look forward to but regardless of that, I will at least give these men and women a chance to shine.
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