No, the problem is a TES MMORPG could've been the best thing since sliced bread, but it turns out to be just another wheat stalk in the field. People are understandably upset, and venting their frustrations (particularly since we'll not get that "TES MMO done right" now; it'll either succeed and go as it is, or fail and not tried again). It's not that far-fetched to think TES fans expected a TES RPG to be like a TES RPG, is it?

let's compare Archage 2012
and TESO 2013
lol

Hey, I'm just as disappointed as anyone. I agree that an Elder Scrolls MMO had enormous potential to be a great game, and this game is taking the easy way out of copying what's already been done before.

But there is a right way and a wrong way of dealing with and expressing that disappointment. I would say that claims of "scrap the game now and start over", "this is an insult", and the typical doom and gloom, sky is falling attitude plaguing this forum is not the right way.

AA is horrible apart from its gfx.

I registered for this forum only to convey my disappointment.

I think that needs to be communicated to Zenimax. MMO players don't want another Everquest/Daoc/WoW/etcetc game. TES players don't want it either.

Constructive criticism is great, but I think it's still very important for the industry to hear how disappointed the fans are. TESO needs to be a shining example of what not to do to an excellent franchise.

Really, it's such an abomination!

The Elder Scrolls Online is not a ripoff of WoW. It has more similarities with Guild Wars 2 than with WoW.

The Elder Scrolls Online is not a ripoff of WoW. It has more similarities with Guild Wars 2 than with WoW.

The Elder Scrolls Online is not a ripoff of WoW. It has more similarities with Guild Wars 2 than with WoW.

The Elder Scrolls Online is not a ripoff of WoW. It has more similarities with Guild Wars 2 than with WoW.

Guild wars 2 and WoW have the same essential gameplay. Guild wars 2 like WoW is also a permutation of the essential design pioneered by Everquest. Classes, levels, themepark. The point is moot.

ROFLMAO... Seriously!?

Pauly WoW and ALL Blizzard games are built off the elements of other games that came before it. Blizzard is known for taking the best of others and then combining them, dumbing it down a bit and then polishing the result. Wow was not unique it was dumbed down. Blizzard looked at the MMOs of the day pulled from them what they could and then simplified the system to make it appeal to a broader base. This is not new or original, it has been this style with Blizzard games from day one.

I will however agree that after the success that Blizzard had with WoW the entire market has moved to the same dumb it down and look overload everyone system in an effort to grab some of the attention.

That's bad news, it could have been successful.

wow had weapon and armor skills you had to level up by using them too, like TES. morrowind & oblivion had classes. the quest design will be "hubless", much like ES. the perks in skyrim might as well be straight out of a wow talent tree.

TES & MMOs share plenty of core elements.

Yea, and there were rumors we would get a Knights of the Old Republic 3 after Star Wars TOR. If you believe that lark I have a magic bean to sell you.

.....I don't even...

Guild Wars 2 sets itself apart with fantastic WvWvW PVP and dynamic events. I really enjoy GW2, and if TESO were announced prior to GW2, then I think more people would have been excited for it.

I think all this negativity is a good sign. It means there is a big fanbase that is very passionate about the subject matter. Hopefully some dev interviews and gameplay footage will bring them around to the correct side of the issue

Umm no this is set 1000 years ago....... lots happened since then.

I doubt they will change anything but if they ever added real first person like in the single player TES games I would consider playing. The goal should be to make a game which appeals to most single player TES customers and everyone else

I think they main reason people are reacting so harshly is simply beacuse it's nothing like a TES game and just throw the WoW-clone out there beacuse it's become a slur when talking about mmo's.
People read sentances like " it will have a hotkey system like WoW" and freak the [censored] out.
Having played GW2 last weekend it does sound more like GW2 than WoW, and they play VERY diffirently.

Objectivly, it dosen't sound like it would be that bad of an mmo, i'm just dissapointed that the world is the only thing TES and TES:O have in common.

So, you've decided you want to throw your hat into the bloody,
poo en-crusted arena that is the MMO world? No doubt, you have
your eyes wide open to the truth that developing and running an
MMO is akin to running for President. Prepare for the hate!
And don't act surprised when your forums start to glow like Nagisaki
at dusk.

If you think that the level of negativity that at times is seen
on the regular ES forums is bad, then imagine that multiplied by a
factor of 10 along with thousands of angry fans resorting to actual
witchcraft to place curses on the next four generations of your children
because it was not what they wanted, but dammit, they're going to buy and play your
game anyway.

Why? Just for the sheer, evil thrill that comes with taking a piece of meat,
fresh off the bus, backing it up in the shower, and repeatedly ramming it
with everything and everyone available on D-Block until the next morning
where it's left, still shivering, a bloodied corpse in the corner

Is it logical? No.
Can you please them? If your willing to cut out the still beating heart
of one of your employees and offer it up to the angry god that is the MMO community,
will they be appeased, but only for a few hours. Only in the most optimistic version
of whatever hell your choice of religion has to offer will you be able to make THOSE
fans happy.

But may I say, Zenimax Online, I admire your courage. May God
have mercy on your anuses!

So in short, best wishes and see you online!

Also, read this for reference :
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-biggest-dike-moves-in-history-online-gaming/

They have one year to change the gameplay(ha!). There's going to be a poopstorm if it's released as it currently is.

Woah..you played it?! Give us the details!

Yup, it's called World of Warcraft. And Guild Wars. And Everquest. And Rift. And supposedly there was something about The Elder Scrolls, but I never saw it.

Those are all pretty different - which one was it like?

All of them, except for The Elder Scrolls.

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Do not want.

Star Wars The Old Republic is made by BioWare.

The Elder Scrolls Online is not made by Bethesda.

Key difference. Of course, you don't want to see facts, you just want to complain.