[Charlotte Lloyd-Jones]

WTF the game is out on PC and PS3 it's just the Failguard DLC that isn't.

*Looks at which forum we are in*. Oh, its the Dawnguard forum!

The Skyrim forum has all the logos at the bottom.

[Kayleigh Mcneil]

It's like watching a whole load of little wind up toys all whirring about waving their little clockwork arms about.

Just imagining this was funny

[lucile]

The first two add-on content drops for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will be releasing exclusively on Xbox 360, 30 days before it's available anywhere else. If you'd like to be the first to break new ground in Skyrim, Xbox LIVE is the only destination that won't keep you waiting.
- from the Bethesda Press Release last August

I might be getting paranoid, but can anyone guarantee that this doesn't mean the 30 day exclusivity runs out after both DLCs have been released? It's just not that specific, so we all assumed the best. But I see no reason why they couldn't come out now that the 30 days are over and say "We are working on Dawnguard for other platforms, we'll let you know when to expect it as soon as possible."? Why can't they admit that they have plans to release it for PC and PS3 even now? Is it really just bad PR? I can imagine so, but still ...

[Everardo Montano]

I can only think of 3 scenarios for delaying DG for the PC (the PS3 is more complicated):

• the exclusivity deal was not for 30 days as was widely reported
  
• the exclusivity deal was extended and Bethesda doesn't want to fess up
  
• they are waiting for a strategic release date (many PC gamers blew a lot of cash in the steam summer sales, myself included)

Personally, I think it's #2, because of the way they have worded things (Dawnguard not even announced for other platforms).

[jessica breen]

The first two add-on content drops for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will be releasing exclusively on Xbox 360, 30 days before it's available anywhere else. If you'd like to be the first to break new ground in Skyrim, Xbox LIVE is the only destination that won't keep you waiting.
- from the Bethesda Press Release last August

I might be getting paranoid, but can anyone guarantee that this doesn't mean the 30 day exclusivity runs out after both DLCs have been released? It's just not that specific, so we all assumed the best. But I see no reason why they couldn't come out now that the 30 days are over and say "We are working on Dawnguard for other platforms, we'll let you know when to expect it as soon as possible."? Why can't they admit that they have plans to release it for PC and PS3 even now? Is it really just bad PR? I can imagine so, but still ...

I doubt this is something to worry about. Interesting viewpoint though.

[Add Me]

The first two add-on content drops for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will be releasing exclusively on Xbox 360, 30 days before it's available anywhere else. If you'd like to be the first to break new ground in Skyrim, Xbox LIVE is the only destination that won't keep you waiting.
- from the Bethesda Press Release last August

I might be getting paranoid, but can anyone guarantee that this doesn't mean the 30 day exclusivity runs out after both DLCs have been released? It's just not that specific, so we all assumed the best. But I see no reason why they couldn't come out now that the 30 days are over and say "We are working on Dawnguard for other platforms, we'll let you know when to expect it as soon as possible."? Why can't they admit that they have plans to release it for PC and PS3 even now? Is it really just bad PR? I can imagine so, but still ...

well if you want to get super technical about how to literally interpret that statement; "... 30 days before it's available anywhere else..." Take not of the "it's" literally meaning it is, which is a singular term not plural. So taking that statement literally would mean each the first and second DLC will have 30 day delays after they each are released. Not 30 days after the second DLC is released.

[Erika Ellsworth]

Hey guys, avoiding overreacting?

No? Good to hear!

[Melung Chan]

Problem with PR, as I have said before is, it's not the guy who gives the PR that's in charge of the content of the PR. Pete, GStaff etc. have most likely been told by higher-ups in the company that they cannot say anything further than what they already have. It's highly likely that this is company policy and hell, they probably have to monitor everything they say just because of that.

[gemma]

In the end it boils down to simply waiting and playing something else until the DLC hits. My new character is all prepared, while my established ones are overprepared

[Jessica Stokes]

I can only think of 3 scenarios for delaying DG for the PC (the PS3 is more complicated):

• the exclusivity deal was not for 30 days as was widely reported
  
• the exclusivity deal was extended and Bethesda doesn't want to fess up
  
• they are waiting for a strategic release date (many PC gamers blew a lot of cash in the steam summer sales, myself included)

Personally, I think it's #2, because of the way they have worded things (Dawnguard not even announced for other platforms).

or you could pick the more likely option that they are fixing unexpected issues with the 1.7 patch of which they won't release dawn guard to PC without.

the second option simply is not what happened, because that would be a legal contract and that would leave that information available to those who would do some sleuthing. Thus we would be hearing about an extension to the exclusive deal just about every where.

[Robert DeLarosa]

Quite frankly, Bethesda's treatment of their PC and PS3 fans is completely disgusting. Even for games I have on Xbox - I still think it is completely unfair that the PC and ps3 owners are made to be second rate - and now, having Skyrim on PC and experiencing it first hand - I understand their frustration.

I'm reasonable - so I can appreciate that taking Microsoft's blood money for exclusivity helps financially (although they can't need the money that much given the success of the game (4th best selling in 2011)) - but seemingly not bothering to a) update the PS3 and apologise to their PC and PS3 fans by striving to give us the expansion immediately after the 30-day period ends - is unacceptable. Clearly the Xbox players are the only ones who Bethesda cares about.

It's ironic that the person who delivered this news, a PR disaster for Bethesda with 2/3rds of their fans, is in fact a PR leader.

[Yvonne Gruening]

That's just it though; they may be striving to give us the content ASAP. Perhaps there are unexpected issues with patch 1.7. We have no way of knowing. We can assume, but you know what is said about doing that.

[Elizabeth Falvey]

Pere Hines: "I was simply stating that expecting/demanding something today is unfounded. Not that news is never coming."

"yup, understood. Sometimes it's better to say nothing until you can provide solid info than say something before you can."

EDIT: if your implying that he meant that dawn guard is not coming out for any other platform than Xbox, he clarified what he meant shortly after.

your own link showed that.

Well, my response to Pete's

"yup, understood. Sometimes it's better to say nothing until you can provide solid info than say something before you can."

Would be something like:
And sometimes it's best to say something small before something big builds up and blows out of proportion.

I'd call it a pre-emptive strike. Take down something when it's still small to prevent a bloodshed. You would not have had 10 threads with one title (not to mention the plethora of threads covering the same subject).
You can't please everyone, but please, if you see a hype build up and you let it go on... this is a poor statement to make.

Had you made this tweet, say, 2 weeks after xbox launch, this would be a much more acceptable response than after 30 days and dozens upon dozens of nerdrage postings.

With all the new games coming out, depending on how soon Dawnguard will release on the remaining platforms, it will probably not make it to my shopping cart for a looong time.
I ll buy it eventually, I'd still buy it a week from now. But that's only because I'm still in my skyrim buzz, which ironically got fueled mostly in anticipation for dawnguard and lack of (to me) interesting PC releases.
Having to switch to another game to kill the 'between' time will kill the buzz.

The buzz is already being killed, to be quite frank.


EDIT:

I should add that we can't/shouldn't hold Bethesda responsible for the misinformation the various articles and topics have spread over the course of Dawnguard. But I do hold it against you that you did not nip these rumours in the bud.

[Catherine N]

or you could pick the more likely option that they are fixing unexpected issues with the 1.7 patch of which they won't release dawn guard to PC without.

the second option simply is not what happened, because that would be a legal contract and that would leave that information available to those who would do some sleuthing. Thus we would be hearing about an extension to the exclusive deal just about every where.

Dawnguard isn't announced for PC and PS3 yet, and they even said they don't have any plans for such, so it can't be that. They are clearly stirring the hornet's nest, as per MS instructions. Instead of using that money to create value for their Xbox customers, MS choose strongarm tactics to make other platforms look bad, and Bethesda is more than willing to play along.

[sunny lovett]

That's just it though; they may be striving to give us the content ASAP. Perhaps there are unexpected issues with patch 1.7. We have no way of knowing. We can assume, but you know what is said about doing that.

Well if they had a functional xbox version then surely porting to PC and PS3 is quite easy - and for that matter - why didn't they have the PS3 and PC versions ready to ship at the time of the xbox release - hence they could have released it for PC and ps3 immediately after the 30 days.

They've had 30 days to get this ready - clearly that haven't been "striving to release the PC and PS3 versions". I admire your optimism but we've been screwed by the scum that it is Microsoft and the not so righteous Bethesda

[A Lo RIkIton'ton]

Well, shave my legs and call me grandma, thread 10! 0.o

I'd sincerely love to know whether this silence is MS related or not...

[Prohibited]

I wish people could see outside their own selfish sphere of consumption. You're not being disrespected because the game content isn't on all platforms. It isn't some insult or offense. It is part of the video game industry. Microsoft has exclusives like Halo and Gears of War, Sony has exclusives like God of War and Uncharted, Nintendo has exclusives like Mario and Zelda. You have to be willing to understand and accept the way the game industry works. You're not being discriminated against, this is just the nature of the industry.

Assassin's Creed and Red Dead Redemption each have exclusive content only to Sony. Bethesda has Xbox exclusivity launch dates. Everyone wins some of the time and everyone loses some of the time. But its nothing personal, and it doesn't mean Bethesda or any other company doesn't care about you, or is ignoring you. This is part of the video game industry, if you are going to buy and play video games, then you need to understand this.

[Ezekiel Macallister]

I wish people could see outside their own selfish sphere of consumption. You're not being disrespected because the game content isn't on all platforms. It isn't some insult or offense. It is part of the video game industry. Microsoft has exclusives like Halo and Gears of War, Sony has exclusives like God of War and Uncharted, Nintendo has exclusives like Mario and Zelda. You have to be willing to understand and accept the way the game industry works. You're not being discriminated against, this is just the nature of the industry.

Assassin's Creed and Red Dead Redemption each have exclusive content only to Sony. Bethesda has Xbox exclusivity launch dates. Everyone wins some of the time and everyone loses some of the time. But its nothing personal, and it doesn't mean Bethesda or any other company doesn't care about your, or is ignoring you. This is part of the video game industry, if you are going to buy and play video games, then you need to understand this.

And I suppose in you next sentence you'll have us banging on about Jesus and free love...

[Lucky Boy]

While it certainly is disappointing I can't use the DLC simply because I do not own an Xbox, I can't condemn a company that has provided me with literally hundreds of hours of fun because I can't enjoy 10-20 hours of content this second.

[Syaza Ramali]

Still flaming because of second-sort and expensive addon?
After I've seen it on xbox by myself I started praying that Bethesda won't release addon before good patching.

I hope you understand me because I'm tired and could make lots of mistakes typing message with almost closed eyes.

[kitten maciver]

I wish people could see outside their own selfish sphere of consumption. You're not being disrespected because the game content isn't on all platforms. It isn't some insult or offense. It is part of the video game industry. Microsoft has exclusives like Halo and Gears of War, Sony has exclusives like God of War and Uncharted, Nintendo has exclusives like Mario and Zelda. You have to be willing to understand and accept the way the game industry works. You're not being discriminated against, this is just the nature of the industry.

Assassin's Creed and Red Dead Redemption each have exclusive content only to Sony. Bethesda has Xbox exclusivity launch dates. Everyone wins some of the time and everyone loses some of the time. But its nothing personal, and it doesn't mean Bethesda or any other company doesn't care about you, or is ignoring you. This is part of the video game industry, if you are going to buy and play video games, then you need to understand this.

This.


I'm going to quote myself here, from a response to a user in a previous version of this thread;

When Dead Money was announced for Fallout New Vegas, there was no word as to when or if the DLC would be available on PC/PS3. Dead Money was announced for Xbox 360 as a timed exclusive on the 17th of November 2010, and released on the 21st of December 2010. We saw the same situation on the FONV forums at the time that we are seeing here. There was no word at all regarding other platforms until the 4th of February 2011, where it was then announced that it would be made available for PS3 and PC on February 22nd. (http://www.bethblog.com/2011/02/04/dead-money-coming-to-ps3-pc-more-content-on-the-way/).

The agreement wasn't that the Xbox got the DLC 30 days before everyone else, it was that there would be a set 30 day period where the other platforms would have no chance at all of acquiring the DLC - simple as that. Once this expires, Bethesda are free to do as they wish and release at their own will. Screaming and spamming is going to do absolutely nothing (and im talking generally here, this isn't aimed at you). It didn't then, it won't now.
I understand the frustration as to Bethesda's utter failure to communicate with it's consumers, in fact I agree completely with that and I too am frustrated with the lack of information. It's just that some people are naively assuming that immediately after the 30 days there would be insta-DLC; and this has to be put to bed. We all knew this was not the case because we've seen it before.

[Noraima Vega]

Is Bethesda trying to tell us this;

We released Dawnguard DLC for Xbox.

Microsoft kept throwing at us money so we decided to give them 30 days exclusive.

30 days passed but there is still no money from Sony, so we will screw with PS3/PC fans more until Sony gives us money for it like Microsoft did.

We don't care about fans opinion, we don't have decency to announce or to give them date because we didn't get money from Sony!!!

We will use twitter to screw with them just to keep them enraged so that we may get money from Sony!!!

Ofc we have Dawnguard completed cause we released it for Xbox, we just want MONEY!

Money first > Fans last. Thats our moto.We simply dont have enough money, we need more!

Conclusion: My opinion of Bethesda was at first now its

[Roy Harris]

I wish people could see outside their own selfish sphere of consumption. You're not being disrespected because the game content isn't on all platforms. It isn't some insult or offense. It is part of the video game industry. Microsoft has exclusives like Halo and Gears of War, Sony has exclusives like God of War and Uncharted, Nintendo has exclusives like Mario and Zelda. You have to be willing to understand and accept the way the game industry works. You're not being discriminated against, this is just the nature of the industry.

Assassin's Creed and Red Dead Redemption each have exclusive content only to Sony. Bethesda has Xbox exclusivity launch dates. Everyone wins some of the time and everyone loses some of the time. But its nothing personal, and it doesn't mean Bethesda or any other company doesn't care about you, or is ignoring you. This is part of the video game industry, if you are going to buy and play video games, then you need to understand this.

And you condone these practices? They add no value, they simply piss off a bunch of gamers. The industry would be better off if these bullying tactics were eradicated, so I will continue to voice my discontent, but I thank you for your input.

[nath]

Dawnguard isn't announced for PC and PS3 yet, and they even said they don't have any plans for such, so it can't be that. They are clearly stirring the hornet's nest, as per MS instructions. Instead of using that money to create value for their Xbox customers, MS choose strongarm tactics to make other platforms look bad, and Bethesda is more than willing to play along.

no. what wasn't announced was the release date, not whether or not it will becoming to PC and ps3.

you have misunderstood what his tweet said. And the clarification to your misunderstanding has been posted in this thread at least 3 times now. twice by myself.

[megan gleeson]

And you condone these practices? They add no value, they simply piss off a bunch of gamers. The industry would be better off if these bullying tactics were eradicated, so I will continue to voice my discontent, but I thank you for your input.

Yup I agree if a games goes multiplatform I don't think companies should do this exclusive DLC for 1 platform.