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After the "Wayshrine Limitations" thread I saw someone wishing there was a poll for which people preferred and since you can't add polls after a thread has been made I figured I'd get down to it.

So which would you prefer?

Instant fast-travel:
-There are a few ways of doing this. Either you can look at GW2 where you literally just pressed different dots on the map to where you could fast travel instantly for just a minor fee that didn't actually matter. Or you can go to certain places/stations and from there be able to instant-travel to other set locations (the way the Wayshrines will work for TESO as of now). Since TESO seem to want to use both of these systems I put them as one option. The general pro of this is that you can get things done fast and don't have to wait for too long to get to places.

Taxi fast-travel:
-The best examples of these are the way World of Warcraft and SWTOR did it as their systems were more or less identical.
I decided to use the quote of the guy that gave me the idea to start this thread for the Taxi-system:
The general pro here is immersion and taking time to enjoy the world at the cost of time for game-chores/activities.

No fast-travel:
This is in a way taking the Taxi-system's pros and cons one step further. Sometimes it can be even more fun to run/ride to places and be the boss of your own travels. Meeting obstacles and attractions you can stop by along the way.

Others:
For example: You could use all of the above in a way similar to how WoW did it with their hearthstone. So you put big restrictions on instant-travel so it is rarely used leaving people with the taxi-choice for the most part.

Remember:
-This is an MMO, not a Singleplayer, which ties in with the second reminder:
-If there is an option for instant-travel then taxi travel isn't really a choice- it puts someone at a great disadvantage. (if the two are as easy to use, and used in the same ways)

If anyone comes up with more major pros/cons for either of the options please list them below and I'll add them if they're reasonable.

i love and enjoy walking
pole is biased
add walking option please

How'd you have it changed? A third option for no fast-travel?

EDIT: that's actually a good idea.

Yes, it should have a third option for no fast travel.

looks good .. thanx for adding "no fast travel"

No fast travel is not a realistic option, especially if the world is as large as they claim.

Third option added, didn't pass my mind at first but it's a viable option.

well .. normally in TES you had a choice of riding your mount, riding the carrige or something similar, or simply walking (which i thought added more ability to discover caves n such) i would say u do need fast travel if you want to get some where really fast .. is true .. i just normally use walking unless like i said you really need get some where really fast

I like the taxi idea out of the three choices.


Gives me time to take a potty break … refill a drink…take out the puppy …. Or just generally watch the scenery go by….

The name of the poll is "Fast travel". Walking is not going to be a viable option. Especially when you consider adding more people.

when skyrim came out i thought this was what we would have in that carrige .. i was disapointed when it was not there .. i was expecting like you said to actually see myself inside of the wagon being pulled and watch the scenery go by like we saw in the opening scene and start of skyrim.

Well, I for one don't like fast travel and usually don't use it any MMO's unless I am forced to it. Never used fast travel in Elder Scrolls games either. Clocked hundreds of hours on my first char in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Never used silt striders or fast travel, and never bought a mount. Walked everywhere, did everything and experienced every bit of the world by foot. I like to do the same in my MMO's.

I personally would like a combination of taxi and fast travel methods. I'd love to have the cart and horses from Skyrim and the Siltstriders from Morrowind. I also have no problems with the wayshrine method as the precedence is set for it with Mages Guild travel and Propylon chambers from Morrowind as well. The only thing that shouldn't be included are Flying mounts (WoW) and map travel (Skyrim). As for walking, you have the option of using horses.


One of my favorite mods for Morrowind is one that lets you take the http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p515/RPGTabbycat/MGEScreenshot006_zps244eaafc.png for the siltstriders... actually ride them on a set path from one destination to the next. It takes quite a bit of time to get there, but is totally worth it. I'm hoping ESO will do something very similar to that mod.

Same here, would have been cool if you could actually sit on the back of that carriage, and jump off at any point if you like, or maybe the carriage could have been attacked by bandits, wolves or maybe the forsworn on the way.

fast travel was instant at least since Morrowind, why should it be changed now?

in Morrowind there was:
- fast travel by Boat
- fast travel by Silt Strider (or what ever they were called)
- fast travel by Almsivi Intervention
- fast travel by Divine Intervention
- fast travel by Mark and Recall
- fast travel by Mage Guild Transporters

so it would be absolutely lore breaking and immersion breaking if there wouldn't be fast travel!!!1oneeleven

Arguing behavior in a srpg vs an mmo. Social contract will say you will use it at times, and even then walking is not a form of fast travel. You always have the opportunity (except when zoning) to walk wherever you please.

I'm not sure about that, as far as lore goes you actually travel with these carriages and siltstriders- they just don't show it. So it wouldn't have anything to do with breaking immersion- just game mechanics, and saying "It's always been like this" doesn't really carry much weight to it.

The Mages Guild teleports are another question though, they were instant both lore-wise and game-wise.

This^

I can see adding fast travel as an option (getting to groups or quest faster), but for the most part I would love to see this as an alternative for those who like that immersion. Riding along in a cart and run the risk of getting ambushed by something or someone on the way...Dragon age had something like that when you were traveling, a little bit different than what we are talking about ,you did not get to see yourself traveling but still could interrupted along the route.

You forgot the propylon chambers... although a pain in the butt to use, it was fast travel.

taxi

Why not all of the above?

Because if travel between points is instant (which is sounds like it is) then its a waste of time and money to do taxi's since they will see little to no use.

If there is an option for instant-travel then taxi travel isn't really a choice- it puts someone at a great disadvantage. Obviously we will -always- have the option to no fast travel.

You could use all of the above in a way similar to how WoW did it with their hearthstone. So you put big restrictions on instant-travel so it is rarely used leaving people with the taxi-choice for the most part. I'm gonna go ahead and post a fourth option of "Others".

Sure, some things could be instant, like the Wayshrines. That only makes sense. But what about carriage transportation? Or silt striders in Morrowind?

and so were the teleport spells.
so in my opinion there has to be some possible teleportation, if it is per wayshrine fine.

wayshrines are sacred(?) to any god - what was the ultimate currency you had to pay in order to receive blessings in Morrowind?
it wasn't magicka, it wasn't blood, but it was hard cash - gold coins.

so if there are wayshrines in ESO and if you have to pay in order to use them, then it is confirm with the Elder Scrolls lore and it also works like in any other MMO, which means it's an approved game mechanic.

so if there is anyone who doesn't like it, they may go ahead: don't like it, don't use it and everything is fine.