Thank you Tibbs. I found Nathan's website to be quite a smorgasbord of P2 info (including the possible cover art).

In response to the possible piece-mealing of Prey 2 ideas, I wouldn't suspect them being that clever. Moreover, that would be a big heaping pile of [censored] for them to do so. Those were HumanHead's ideas and they deserve to have those exclusive to their masterpiece that is Prey 2.

Prey 1 introduced portal technology before either of Valve's games did. (I respect Valve greatly but HH got the loot first). Prey also made idTech 4 look better than it had ever before and brought about many visually, eye-popping quirks that had not been seen previously.

The point is not so much about idTech 4 or portals, but rather the fact that HUMANHEAD is a very creative, intuitive, and resourceful dev team that know how to make great games and how to make the most out of the technologies that those games utilize and I would like to see more of that.

Prey 2 brought about those innovations (Agile combat, holstering of the gun, and tile-locked, Alien Noire bounty-hunting) and as such they should remain in that title with the possibility to be later expanded upon the much requested Prey 3.

Lurk 101, working at Human Head would be ace. I have a couple of friends who work at the University of Wisconsin and they tell me it's beautiful there. It must be pretty nice having distinct seasons! Crazy hot summers and tough-as-nails winters. Human Head are certainly talented. The core founders created the Hexen series back in the day before leaving Raven to start Human Head in 1997. Co-founder and Prey 2 project lead Chris Rhinehart has been in the games industry for 20 years and he's not even 40. What a legend! All of the six founding members are still working at the studio. That's a remarkable achievement that doesn't happen in games industry. Moreover, they rescued Prey from development hell. Imagine the odds facing them when they released a game with that kind of legacy. Announced 11 years earlier, and it still lived up to the hype. It didn't pan out for poor old Duke, that's for sure.

Damn straight. Curious Constructs is a fantastic resource for a ravenous Prey 2 fan!

Amen to that, Absu7d. Design work is what makes or breaks a game. If you set out from a derivative place then no matter how polished the execution is, the game can only go so far.

http://www.machinegames.com/pub/index.php5
Has nothing to do with the countdown site, but I thought machine game's unannounced project has the slight chance of being Prey2, although the engine humanhead were using was a modified id-tech 4, and this game is made from I'd-tech 5. Unless these two engines have compatibility, or they're making it from scratch... I'm sorry if someone has already pointed this out.

Hey Threedog:2277, I'm pretty sure MachineGames are working on a new Wolfenstein.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1441810-rumor-machinegames-working-on-new-wolfenstein-according-to-a-resume/

I'm sure they'll do a fantastic job. MachineGames was founded by ex-Starbreeze developers so I'm hoping for a really strong single player campaign.

Does anyone have any ideas about who might take over Prey 2's development duties? Arkane would make the most sense from a design perspective, but I'm sure they'll be working on a Dishonored sequel and they don't have any Id Tech experience. Id Software, generally sticks to shooters, but Prey 2 seems a little out of their wheelhouse. I would be pretty worried if they took over, not because there not a really talented studio, but I don't think they suit Prey. Boy, I'm stumped. Any ideas? Can you imagine the kudos Bethesda would get if they teamed up with Human Head and finished the game. That would be one of the coolest things to ever happen in the games industry. That might sound pretty naive, but a fella can dream right? Human Head's name still appears throughout the website, so I imagine there is still hope.

Wow, a whollotta talk in one day! What a great read, thanks guys! It gives me hope that there's still passionate fans like you guys who want to see the game out as much as me. It's sometimes sad when other sites get distracted by atrocities like Aliens:Colonial Marines. For what it's worth, I don't care what this website is about. If it's official or not official, it's helped bring the spotlight back on Prey 2. I WANNA CURBSTOMP SOME ALIENS BY JUMPING OFF A SKYSCraqeR! Body mush is still worth a bounty, right?

YOU'RE G0DDAMN RIGHT IT IS!

If the aliennoire site is a hoax I'll be pissed, but then I would like to have some answers from Bethesda, can't they just tell us if the game is cancelled or in developement, just letting the fans know where it's going? Or are they just messing with us?, when we think the game will never come out they give us some good news about it, saying it's in developement or show it of at E3 2013?

Thanks, mr.Tibbs. A wolfenstein sequel would be very nice.
Also, the periodic emails from aliennoire.com sends me screenshots of prey 2 that I've never seen before, and can't even find using google image. Maybe someone at humanhead studios is pulling a prank on us, since Bethesda isn't behind it. I can't see why would they do such thing though.

Hi everybody,

I'm a huge Prey 2 fan just like you guys and I've been following the conversation here for a while now. It's really great to see that there are a few like-minded folks out there. With the countdown on aliennoire.com nearing its end, I've now decided to chime in.
I really hope that site is official but I can't help but feel that it looks a bit unprofessional. The screenshots that they're sending out via newsletter are kind of suspicious too: They're not excatly high quality, are they? Also, they're in 360p which is the typical resolution of a YouTube video - could it be that these images were just grabbed from the E3 demo footage?

I have to admit, the images I've received have just made me more suspicious about aliennoire.com rather than hopeful. Some of those screenshots look like they were taken from what I saw of the E3 demo but the latest one I got doesn't look familiar. There are blown up structures on fire and the character doesn't have any gloves on. Could this be a bit where you play as a different character (Tommy perhaps?) or early on in the game before Killian receives the suit.

Dunno if this has been mentioned before, I assume so, but aliennoire.com now says Prey2 at the top and also has Bethesda softworks and Humanhead Studios at the bottom of the page

Can't any of you who got these unique screenshots upload them somewhere and post a link here on the forums ?
Or is it not allowed by the forums rules or something ?

I just tried posting the two screenshots but I keep getting an error message. :/

Same here. I'm technically incompetent, especially with computers anyway

Last post by a moderator was on the http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1440836-prey-2-countdown-site/page__p__22184088#entry22184088.

You need to have made a certain number of posts and been here for a certain amount of time before you can post links. Maybe try posting them either as plain text, or if that still doesn't work, post it without the http://www. and .com.

I'd love to see these screens, but if they are low quality then that just seems weird.

Well it doesn't seem like much of a prank. I mean what would be the purpose of that. Bethesda have said they don't have anything to do with this. At least there isn't so drawn-out protracted countdown. From all the reports I've read, it ends on 1st of March. Until then all we can do is speculate.

I'm pretty excited either way. Official or not, people still love Prey 2 and want it to see the light of day. How close do you folks think we were to seeing an official gameplay trailer before everything went dark in 2011? It was aiming toward a March/April release so we must've been close. If it had remained in development for another five or six months we would've had the game for almost a year now! I really hope Bethesda didn't delay a nearly complete game (there is an active Beta on steam) to remake it or release it years later. We should've had this game in 2012, not 2014!

I'm pretty sure a number of Dishonored marketing materials originated with Prey 2, especially that Scyfy costume challenge show Face-Off which didn't seem like a good fit for Dishonored at all but designing sleazy alien outfits? Now that sounds cool.

Well after seeing the three pictures that have been sent out if you subscribed to the site I am leaning more towards a fan site. The quality of the game was much higher then the screen shots being sent out. The hands holding the gun look like they came from Prey not Prey 2 and the glare coming from the alien shots in the back ground are over the top of his hands in the for ground. If this was Human Head they would be giving us the best possible screens they had from a polished finished game. I hate to bring up the crap which was Colonial Marines but if Bethesda farmed this game out to some incompetent company like Gearbox did they will have ruined the best game of this current console generation.

Another thing about the pics that keeps bothering me is the look of the cover boxes on the ground in both pics they look kinda cheesy . I mean in the game play footage they seemed more dimensional. In these pics they just look so flat and almost out of place. In the picture with the flying android camera the android is the only part of the picture that is at a high resolution, all most looks like it was cropped into the space.

Could be my computer screen but thats how I see the pictures, really hope I'm wrong and this is all real and we get the Prey 2 we have all been pushing for since day one. I know one thing for certain I would prefer this game never sees the light of day then play a dumbed down version of the master piece that Human Head started development on. If it doesn't look as good as the demo I don't want it. I would rather pay 60.00 for the 15 minute demo and just replay it over and over then get a hack job like Colonial Marines..

In light of the recent Aliens: Colonial Marines qualms I think it should be addressed that it's not the only target render presentation that doesn't correlate directly with the shipped product. I mean there are countless examples Doom 3's 2002 alpha, Half Life 2's 2003 E3 presentation, Bioshock Infinite's 2010 gameplay reveal. Going by those examples It doesn't mean that the finished game can't be awesome, right? It's fair enough to be sceptical, but I mean just because there's one recent egregious lie doesn't mean we should write off every gameplay demonstration. Dishonored as a finished product lined up spot on with the gameplay presentations. Remember Arkane made a vertical slice too for press junkets that wasn't in the final game (the Bitterleaf Teahouse).

Those shots are taken from the Sphere crash site. It's when Killian is still a U.S. Air Marshall so that's why his hands are different when he's fighting the Hunters. The cover makes sense to me, a plane just crashed on an Alien construction. Also have you seen the gameplay demonstrations where you snap to cover, hang from cover, vault and blindfire? It looks awesome. Not many games give you that many options. This is an early section of the game just before Killian is captured by the Hunters and sold into slavery. Going from all the footage I've seen, I really doubt we have another Aliens: Colonial Marines on our hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_kXEomn4Xw

Curiously, this is the only time Bethesda's twitter account answered a Prey 2 related question (in past year):

https://twitter.com/Harr0p/status/240153943446020096

Tell me if you know of any other examples.

Haven't seen that video MrTibbs, thanks for posting that, quick but cool.


I also don't think this would turn out like A:CM... man I am happy I waited for reviews and community thoughts instead of buying.

This may be a bit of a late response to your inquiry, (Just got home from work), but the screenshot that we received today is actually outlining the first part of the game in Prey 2 where the Seajay Air 6401 plane crashes on The Sphere and Killian has a standoff between him and the hunters.

When players got to the crashed plane in Prey 1, they saw it from the left side. The same level in Prey 2 takes place on the right side of the SeaJay Air 6401 and its a quick level.

ANYWAYS, Killian has to fight off the Hunters with his standard issues pistol before he later receives his sci-fi pistol named Rachel on Exodus.
Inevitably, the level ends with Killian be shot and knocked out by the Hunters. Off to Exodus they go.

The thing is, this part of the P2 is only present in like 2 or 3 videos online so it takes a bit of Hunting to find it.

Ok, I guess my point has been missed. I have seen every video on the net related to Prey 2, this has been the only game of any interest to me for the past 2 years. What I am saying is that the images do not match the quality of anything shown by Human Head. Look at the screen shots on the Facebook page. Everything is clean and crisp not fuzzy and out of focus. So point one Human Head would not release images that look like Prey resolution. Point 2 if Bethesda moved on from Human Head and farmed it to a company that dumbed it down I will not want any part of it.
Again I know were the screen shots are from I have seen the game play. Those images are not the same quality as the game period.

Just a thought chaps and chapelles...
Given the change in focus regarding the hardware architecture of Sony's new baby (Cell -> x86) ,and the fact that devs/publishers have most likely been aware of that decision for a wee while now, might the hiatus we've seen with Prey 2 possibly be the result of revisiting the code to enable a new port for a new system?

I guess you could say that these are not screen shots from the game but instead concept art being scaled down for easy emailing. Ok I can sleep again

Well it would be one thing to port the game to PS4 and the next Xbox, but to exclude any kind of presence on the current generation of hardware (with it's enormous install base) would be foolish. This game began development in mid-2009 with a Q1/Q2 2012 release in mind. I mean Bethesda can put it on any platform they want, they own the thing, but to hold it back for next-gen hardware doesn't make sense. Also, if you look through the Prey 2 Facebook page Human Head developers find this idea very discouraging seeing as the game wasn't designed for next-gen hardware. It would either be superficial enhancements to the existing game or a complete reboot.

Bethesda will already have a huge next-gen presence with the next Fallout, Zwei and Wolfenstein.

Well, that is discouraging. Moving to next gen would make Prey 2 go through some more development time for optimization and improvements. Unfortunately that is the problem now with new consoles on the horizon, PS4 is set at Holiday 2013. If this game is to be released it could be as a next gen game. Although wouldn't it be nuts if Human Head's currently in development game for next gen consoles is Prey 2...