PS3 Release for Dawnguard, DLC etc... #36

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:15 am

Only 360 item i'd buy is a controller to play on my desktop. But that's a moot point since you know...there's programs I can use so i can use my ps3 controller. If I had a choice in things? I'm keeping to my Sony product and my desktop. I've had no problems with hardware from Sony, and my desktop can be upgraded for years, I can mod on it. And it's overall superior to the 360. Portable? Okay lemme get my laptop. Apps? I have the internet uncensored at my fingertips. Games? As much as I dislike Steam at times.. there is Steam and the thousands of emulators out there. PLUS you know... I could make my own games on it... can you do that on 360? No. And between 360 and ps3? I'm taking sony because their products are much better, granted customer service was a pain when I had called. But their products? Worth the money, xbox? oh yes lemme call them and hear them apologize for shipping a system that had a long history of DIEING among other problems. Yeah sorry doesn't cut it when your product is flawed, this pertains to software as well. So I ask, WHAT happened to QC? What happened to game testing? Product testing?

Long story short? MS gets enough money out of me for desktop needs, MAYBE a 360 controller for easier playtime. Aside from that? I'm keeping to my PS3, PC/Laptop and my Wii. Why? Because in the near 24 years of gaming and dealing with computers, Nintendo and Sony have never failed me in hardware. My NES STILL works and it's over 20 years old. [censored] keep to themselves. I gave the system a chance and wasn't thrilled.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:53 pm

I'm starting to wonder why we see multiple daily tweets from TESOnline with more specific information about a game not coming out until next year but still can't get a straight answer for something that has been out for over a year. I agree with everyone saying that if they are "close" they could give some sort of answer...before/after Dragonborn? Are you waiting to see when 1.8 gets approved? "Close" and "soon" are your new "we're working on it" and that hasn't gone very well.

And, for Bethesda...if your VP of PR can't make decisions about what info to give, tell us who can and we will wait to hear from them. I'm sure Mr. Hines would like the break.
mr. hines by now is probably hiding for his life going out with bodygaurds cause if ppl see him they might kick his rear lol
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:10 pm

There's no plans for an announcement.... not yet. Honestly, I unpinned the messaging because it was a dated message. I'd rather emphasize the messaging that was posted on the BGS Twitter account last week.
I like that Bethesda is actually replying to people. Feeling warm and fuzzy inside.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:50 am

I'm an Xbox guy, but too old to squabble about how you play. I will say that you are lucky. I have both DG and HF and all I got was $50 with of bugs for $25. The old bugs and game breakers are all still in there, with all new ways to activate them. Plus you get all new lag, crash, crash loop, game breakers, quest stopping action. My advice would be don't be in a hurry, wait even after its out ( if it ever is) don't be the first kid on your block to add to the already subpar game they seem to want to stick you with. Vanilla took forever to fix for you guys and it's stil got more bugs then an ant hill more so for PS3 then anyone. Don't expect the history will change here. If they haven't fixed the crash issues for Xbox yet why assume they will for PS3 after the lack of support you guys have seen to date?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:22 pm

People really need to stop this BS of blaming Xbox for the PS3 not getting DLC, plain and simple to understand Bethesda screwed up your version of the game and in turned screwed you. Now please stop blaming the other platforms for problems that are Bethesda's fault.

To be fair, the 360 is the lead SKU and has been since Oblivion so the games are designed first and foremost for that system. That's not an excuse mind you but it does explain a lot in terms of porting.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:58 pm

if Bethesda was smart the next time they make a console game they will fix issues before release xD but i doubt there going too
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:17 pm

Only 360 item i'd buy is a controller to play on my desktop. But that's a moot point since you know...there's programs I can use so i can use my ps3 controller. If I had a choice in things? I'm keeping to my Sony product and my desktop. I've had no problems with hardware from Sony, and my desktop can be upgraded for years, I can mod on it. And it's overall superior to the 360. Portable? Okay lemme get my laptop. Apps? I have the internet uncensored at my fingertips. Games? As much as I dislike Steam at times.. there is Steam and the thousands of emulators out there. PLUS you know... I could make my own games on it... can you do that on 360? No. And between 360 and ps3? I'm taking sony because their products are much better, granted customer service was a pain when I had called. But their products? Worth the money, xbox? oh yes lemme call them and hear them apologize for shipping a system that had a long history of DIEING among other problems. Yeah sorry doesn't cut it when your product is flawed, this pertains to software as well. So I ask, WHAT happened to QC? What happened to game testing? Product testing?

Long story short? MS gets enough money out of me for desktop needs, MAYBE a 360 controller for easier playtime. Aside from that? I'm keeping to my PS3, PC/Laptop and my Wii. Why? Because in the near 24 years of gaming and dealing with computers, Nintendo and Sony have never failed me in hardware. My NES STILL works and it's over 20 years old. [censored] keep to themselves. I gave the system a chance and wasn't thrilled.

I don't need to say anything to this cause...you fell into MS hands by buying a PC/Laptop :biggrin: So hate 360 all you want you still gave them money.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:29 pm

Well considering the option is apple or learning linux which is me going deeper into programming there aren't many options. My point is in terms of consoles MS gets nothing from me. If I knew how to run Linux I'd use that, last I knew I don't have the freedom to upgrade apple computers freely like I can do with a PC/Laptop. So until they make it so I can upgrade to what -I- want. MS gets the money as horrible as Windows is.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:58 am

To be fair, the 360 is the lead SKU and has been since Oblivion so the games are designed first and foremost for that system. That's not an excuse mind you but it does explain a lot in terms of porting.

Still Bethesda's fault its their job to port their game properly from one system to the next not Microsoft's. Nor is it the job of any other system to confirm to the spec and needs of its rival.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:14 pm



People really need to stop this BS of blaming Xbox for the PS3 not getting DLC, plain and simple to understand Bethesda screwed up your version of the game and in turned screwed you. Now please stop blaming the other platforms for problems that are Bethesda's fault.

No we are to blame. You didn't know we get to decide stuff for Beth via MS by voting on live? Jeez I thought everyone knew that. Hold on I need to vote on what message the mods and execs send next. OK done I hope you guys like the idea of cornflower blue sweaters for all nords because we all voted to get them. They will be tweeting shortly to make it official.

Seriously thought look back at my old posts. You'll find more then one asking how a game can be 10/10 with only 2/3 platforms working.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:37 pm

Well considering the option is apple or learning linux which is me going deeper into programming there aren't many options. My point is in terms of consoles MS gets nothing from me. If I knew how to run Linux I'd use that, last I knew I don't have the freedom to upgrade apple computers freely like I can do with a PC/Laptop. So until they make it so I can upgrade to what -I- want. MS gets the money as horrible as Windows is.

Upgrading is one standpoint I don't think apple will ever change its view on, they have always had a bug up their rear about that. Like what is wrong with letting people upgrade their computer's rather then buying a new one...
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:05 pm

No we are to blame. You didn't know we get to decide stuff for Beth via MS by voting on live? Jeez I thought everyone knew that. Hold on I need to vote on what message the mods and execs send next. OK done I hope you guys like the idea of cornflower blue sweaters for all nords because we all voted to get them. They will be tweeting shortly to make it official.

Seriously thought look back at my old posts. You'll find more then one asking how a game can be 10/10 with only 2/3 platforms working.

Game review sites and mag's don't know crap about reviewing a game. I find personal hands on experience far more informative :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:14 pm

I am going to take a break from this and just watch the forum for a while :read:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:58 am

Well considering the option is apple or learning linux which is me going deeper into programming there aren't many options. My point is in terms of consoles MS gets nothing from me. If I knew how to run Linux I'd use that, last I knew I don't have the freedom to upgrade apple computers freely like I can do with a PC/Laptop. So until they make it so I can upgrade to what -I- want. MS gets the money as horrible as Windows is.

You should take a look at some of the new Linux OS's out there - Ubuntu has come a long way since the all brown screen and complete command line control http://www.ubuntu.com/ and what was Mandrake, now re-branded as Mandriva is supposedly much more user friendly http://www.mandriva.com/en/ - if there's something Windows oriented you desperately want to run most will run in Linux using WinE

Command line control while a pain and very confusing to newcomers is SO much easier than the old DOS system, I remember using Edlin and Batutil just to create a menu so programs were easier for users to find ..... not to mention the potential for errors when trying to format floppy discs... that minefield is a whole different story for another day
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:13 pm

I visit this forum everyday. The first thing i look at when i click on "dawnguard general discussion" was the pinned thread that said "ps3 dlc update" that gstaff updated on August 30th. ITS GONE!!!!! I wonder if that is a sign that something is coming soon?!?!

Or it has been removed because it contains statements that have legal significance that Bethesda now realizes might be used against them. Pay attention to what has been said and printed, and what has been removed. There are many things going on with the Skyrim DLC for PS3 issue that are not included in this public forum.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:48 am

As far as I know, they never said DLC, just "content" which could be anything. Hell, when they gave us mounted combat and broken kill cams that could be called "content."
They said it just to say they said something. "We did give an update! See, we're communicating!"
Personally, I think it was just to shut us up and get the optimists out of the woodwork to balance out all of the flaming and negativity.
It's the same line they have been spouting since Dawnguard came out, just worded differently.

Right now, we're watching Bethesda sweat bullets. They have been releasing broken games for years, and DLC on top of the broken games that make the games unplayable. This time, however, the media is watching their every move. They are getting an article on gaming sites following every tweet. They are getting articles if they don't say anything. If they screw up one more time, they are going to get the destroyed within the gaming community. Gaming sites, and I would even wager Playstation magazine, will write up articles condemning Bethesda for their failure. They are truly in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Don't release any DLC for the PS3, get flamed, release DLC that breaks the game, get flamed, if they don't fix the vanilla version, they will get flamed. Add to all of that, if they release DLC for the PS3 do they try full price, or give the PS3 users some kind of discount? What kind of discount could they give that wouldn't make the 360 crowd cry and whine? The issue is, how to reverse years of habits and porting "skills" to make the game playable on the PS3, yet not spend the company into the poorhouse to do it, all while concentrating on more DLC, a GOTY version of the game, and other side projects they have like ESO.

Yes, they dug their own hole with this one from day one. Now, they are scrambling to crawl out while the walls are crumbling around them. I've seen some companies sweat like this before, but they were willing to knuckle up and fix their problems as they always could, but they thought they could "cheap out" and not have anyone notice. Right now, I'm wondering if Bethesda even has the ability to fix their problems. How long would a full recall and re-release take if they bit the bullet and reprogrammed Skyrim for the PS3?

I would ask someone at Bethesda, Pete Hines, Todd Howard, gstaff, for answers, but we all know they are just a fount of information at the moment. I think these are good and appropriate questions. We, the PS3 users, have paid full price for defective merchandise, for some of us it's we've bought defective merchandise again. We know Bethesda's past when it comes to fixing broken games, as in they don't. We are tired of the "we'll let you know" crap. That is almost as bad as no update. We deserve much better than Bethesda is treating us, and the company should be thanking whatever god or gods they believe in that they are in the gaming software industry and not any other, or their current situation would be more "stressful and expensive" right now if one reads between the lines and gets my meaning.

This whole situation, debacle, cluster bug, whatever you want to call it and get past the censors, just makes me sick that a company can behave this way. Some may say "it's just a game" but to me it's more. I don't have many hobbies or the ability to afford them, and my wife and I used to love this game. She actually liked just watching me play and helping me out a bit by searching the internet for the occasional answer. Not to mention it's the principle of getting sold a defective product, that the company knew was defective, through lies, deceit, misrepresentation, and fraud.

I agree with Itkiwi exactly. Well said and well posted. This is a complete and utter failure as a company, and they have compounded it by telling us to "talk to the hand" while giving us nothing new for months and months. The "veil of secrecy" is really just making it worse. Don't they get that?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:22 am

What I'm wondering is this: if a new DLC would be coded for PS3, and then ported to Xbox 360 and PC, would we see the same problems we see now? A lot of trouble with the PS3 seems to come from sloppy porting, so fresh coding instead of a measly copy-paste may work.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:08 pm

I"d really like to see some REAL news regarding all the DLCs that Beth is unable to get coded for the PS3 instead of always reading about the latest Dishonored news or all the great new things about ESO. If they concentrated on the stuff that doesn't work instead of sending out new stuff maybe they'd be on the right track. Nah, just keep putting out new stuff and forget all the PS3 users you left hanging.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:42 am

My character's lore involves the Dawnguard DLC, if all three add-ons are available, I'm only going to buy Dawnguard I think. Still waiting!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:26 am

My brother owns a PS3, I see where you all are coming from. I just don't understand why you all blame Microsoft for a problem that is between Sony and Bethesda. I'm sure I'll get responses like "THEY'RE PAYING BETH TO NOT GIVE US DLC"

Most of us actually don't blame microsoft, and actually some of us even feel the way this has gone kind of just made microsoft lose out on money.

Companies have a right to reserve games, it's business. Most of us, solely blame bethesda for the quality of the DLC's and games they've released in the past, and the lack of communication about the current issues, and for their "fixes" further harming people's games making lag or crashes worse instead of better, and for implemented faulty mechanics such as the new kill cams. Caused my characters to initiate kill cam, stand in place, get hit, then continue without killing a thing, but that was both on PS3 and PC for me.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:21 pm

Dragonborn releases on December 4th, December 4th is a tuesday, PS Store updates on tuesdays. HMMMMMMMMMM.......

Maybe Bethesda will announce the ps3's "content" soon?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:56 pm

Dragonborn releases on December 4th, December 4th is a tuesday, PS Store updates on tuesdays. HMMMMMMMMMM.......

Maybe Bethesda will announce the ps3's "content" soon?
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lol i bet it will be another excuse and it would be that they are having trouble getting to code with dg and hf so it will wait longer to get db to work with dg hf for ps3 xD then it will be another 4 months of wait lol.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:54 am

I think the DLC for the ps3 will be just a wooden sign saying 'Got'Ya!'

Bethesda released a badly coded game that should never have been given to the PS3.

They didn't learn anything from the ridiculous Oblivion mess. They didn't bring in proper Playstation programmers, didn't construct the new engine like they lied about having done. They lied about the quality of the game and released it roughly 4-5 months early just because they couldn't wait to be greedy instead of giving us a game without mass platform bugs.

They're scum, they're liars and why dear GOD would you believe them now about a decent DLC for the PS3 after they've spent the last 5 years lying about the quality of their work. They are a company who favor Microsoft very heavily and so what. That's perfectly acceptable. They should only release and work on Xbox and PC titles because they don't have any desire to do a proper job and bring in coders for the ps3 or build a better engine to work with as the one they've got is outdated by a long long way.

The solution is simple. DO..NOT..TRUST..A..WORD..THEY..SAY.

They're liars. They've stolen both time and money from us, provided a heavily flowed product with continual faults that mean you can't use it as was intended and are ignoring formal requests for indepth answers to what they're upto in reference to fixing the item.

If you bought an electrical item that continually broke down, kept being sent back in for repairs but was continually returned to you with fault after fault and when you asked for your money back or basic communication, were ignored and had silence for over 9 months you'd either go after them with metal pole or you'd have the authorities intervene and investigate them.

What will the PS3 DLC be? It'll be a big [censored] Y*u from Bethesda whilst they jangle some new shiny keys in your face to destruct you.

I'm glad I'm dying. Even at my worst when I'm hunched over with tears streaming down my face trying to get through the painful spasms in my stomach I thought about how much I believed Bethesda would do something to fix their lies. I'm tired of being lied to and not treated like a normal customer. I don't deserve any DLC. I only deserve the truth and not silence.

Money hungry, lying bags of sh*t.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:14 pm

People really need to stop this BS of blaming Xbox for the PS3 not getting DLC, plain and simple to understand Bethesda screwed up your version of the game and in turned screwed you. Now please stop blaming the other platforms for problems that are Bethesda's fault.

I'm not blaming the Xbox, I'm not even blaming the execs. I'm saying that Bethesda doesn't want to upset the one customer that is really happy because if they screw them over too, even in their own eyes be it irrational as it could be (this is all hypothetical, don't get your panties in a bunch), who do they have left to alienate?

It's really far-fetched, but a lot people around here (the forums) would hate to see the PS3 get any prefential treatment over the Xbox because of the mistakes made by Bethesda. I would agree with them on that matter too. They only need to make things right, not make things "even".
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:00 pm

Dragonborn releases on December 4th, December 4th is a tuesday, PS Store updates on tuesdays. HMMMMMMMMMM.......

Maybe Bethesda will announce the ps3's "content" soon?
:biggrin:

I will bet you the price of an Xbox+Skyrim+DG+HF+DB that it doesn't come out on that date.

Tax not included.
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