[Melis Hristina]

I owned Fallout 3, Fallout NV on the PS3, when Skyrim came I knew that the 360 was the better choice... so yes I feel for you PS3 gamers. There are times when PS3 got something that 360 didn't, you know what I did? Bought it on PS3 because I was not entitled to it because I had not paid for it on 360, not complain about how it's not fair and that the 360 should get it too.

I made the exact same mistake. When I finally got the Fallout 3 DLC on the PS3, I had even more problems than I had with the vanilla game. No joke, you know those derelict cars in Point Lookout? They were doing somersaults on my screen. It was like being at the circus, only in a video game. Fallout New Vegas? Even worse. Multiple crashes during loading screens, tons of headaches with corrupted saves. Granted, I have those same problems on my 360 copy, but not nearly to the same degree. After making those mistakes, I also concluded that Skyrim was a better buy on either of the other two platforms. I'm not trying to start a console war or anything, just trying to bring awareness to the fact that this team, nor Obsidian for that matter, can seem to handle the PS3 platform. The only thing I can recommend is to change your platform if you love the games that Bethesda makes. I know I do and I couldn't let my experience on the PS3 get the best of me, so I changed platforms. Like I said, I'm not trying to start a console war, only trying to tell you guys what your best option is if you want to play the DLC. Even if you guys got it, and if it is anything like their DLC for Fallout 3, you WILL NOT want it. Somersaulting cars is hilarious, but ridiculous (also crashes your framerate).

[Nathan Barker]

I made the exact same mistake. When I finally got the Fallout 3 DLC on the PS3, I had even more problems than I had with the vanilla game. No joke, you know those derelict cars in Point Lookout? They were doing somersaults on my screen. It was like being at the circus, only in a video game. Fallout New Vegas? Even worse. Multiple crashes during loading screens, tons of headaches with corrupted saves. Granted, I have those same problems on my 360 copy, but not nearly to the same degree. After making those mistakes, I also concluded that Skyrim was a better buy on either of the other two platforms. I'm not trying to start a console war or anything, just trying to bring awareness to the fact that this team, nor Obsidian for that matter, can seem to handle the PS3 platform. The only thing I can recommend is to change your platform if you love the games that Bethesda makes. I know I do and I couldn't let me experience on the PS3 get the best of me, so I changed platforms. Like I said, I'm not trying to start a console war, only trying to tell you guys what your best option is if you want to play the DLC. Even if you guys got it, and if it is anything like their DLC for Fallout 3, you WILL NOT want it.

For the Fallout 3 I had the GOTY addition on PS3, complete nightmare that was... would freeze all the time.

[Kayla Oatney]

Its sad that people clearly see this is a ps3 thread and insist on joining just o tell us we re wrong. Its obviously not a thread for xbox and pc, so wtf?

Bethesda really [censored] up this time. Biggest middle finger ever. They should just go exclusive to microsoft instead of giving us the cold shoulder and lying blatantly...at this point whats the difference.

[Lady Shocka]

Coby, You do realize that some people can only afford one video game system, right? Not everyone can just pick and choose what system they buy their games for. Dawnguard was NEVER an exclusive DLC to Xbox. Nobody would ever make something that big and major exclusive. Xbox only had it for 30 days, then it was supposed to come to every one else. That's what they said. Once again, though, that's not the issue. If you are going to ignore the issue and just try and make us all sound like entitled brats, then please just leave this thread.

[JERMAINE VIDAURRI]

For the Fallout 3 I had the GOTY addition on PS3, complete nightmare that was... would freeze all the time.

I had a number of crashes, but most of my problems were with objects behaving in extremely unusual manners. Bodies would suddenly start having seizures while floating up towards the sky, Bloody Mess explosions that would suddenly freeze and then transform back into whatever I had just killed, somersaulting cars, even Albino Radscorpions that were buried into the terrain with only their tails sticking out. Every single one of these behavioral problems caused my framerate to drop to a nauseating level. Bethesda, I love you guys. I love your games. I have loved you since Morrowind. But for the love of God, please stop releasing these games on the PlayStation 3 if there technical reasons why your games will not run on them. Those who couldn't play the game because they only had the PS3 would have been upset, but far less upset than they are now. I'm certain that all PlayStation fans feel the same way I did when I simply could not get Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas to run.

[Chavala]

Coby, You do realize that some people can only afford one video game system, right? Not everyone can just pick and choose what system they buy their games for. Dawnguard was NEVER an exclusive DLC to Xbox. Nobody would ever make something that big and major exclusive. Xbox only had it for 30 days, then it was supposed to come to every one else. That's what they said. Once again, though, that's not the issue. If you are going to ignore the issue and just try and make us all sound like entitled brats, then please just leave this thread.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[tegan fiamengo]

Dude i STILL cant do the dlc for fallouy goty. Wheres the quality for that one beth?

[lauraa]

Haha, that guy has a point. Down in right corner, the icon for Windows is there, and for Xbox.. but for PS3? Of course not. Wow. Just wow.

The PS3 logo isn't there because Dawnguard isn't on the PS3 yet. It would be false advertisemant, it's not a conspiracy.

[Dan Stevens]

I owned Fallout 3, Fallout NV on the PS3, when Skyrim came I knew that the 360 was the better choice... so yes I feel for you PS3 gamers. There are times when PS3 got something that 360 didn't, you know what I did? Bought it on PS3 because I was not entitled to it because I had not paid for it on 360, not complain about how it's not fair and that the 360 should get it too.

Precisely... and you were right not to complain... because whether it was 'Drake's Fortune', 'Tomb Raider', or whatever else - Naughty Dog or Eidos or whoever, never tried to convince you to buy a product at full price, without mentioning that you would in fact receive a deficient version. Again... and I will belabour this point... Beth's PR before release did lead people to expect DLC, they even made a point of teazing that it would be 'bigger' than what was offered with their previous games.

I believe you may be arguing at cross-purposes with the other posters here. Their point seems to be: " We didn't get what we paid for ". Whereas yours seems to be, " if you were as savvy as me, you would have purchased multiple platforms ".

[Terry]

I owned Fallout 3, Fallout NV on the PS3, when Skyrim came I knew that the 360 was the better choice... so yes I feel for you PS3 gamers. There are times when PS3 got something that 360 didn't, you know what I did? Bought it on PS3 because I was not entitled to it because I had not paid for it on 360, not complain about how it's not fair and that the 360 should get it too.

How many times have you seen DLC of Dawnguard's size released on one system and not another? My guess is never.

[carrie roche]

Not to sound dumb...but what is a Beta?

A 'beta' is a development stage, often the one immediately prior to release. 'Alpha' is typically the primary developing phase, and 'beta' is often the bug-fixing, play-testing stage.

Before Dawnguard released on the Xbox, a few players were allowed to download and test the DLC on their systems and helped report bugs and performance issues. My suggestion was that gamesas should do the same for the PS3 for 2 reasons: (1) It would prove that Bethesda is actually working on and investing in the DLC on the system, and (2) It might actually fix some of the issues with the game. Pete Hines mentioned on his Twitter earlier that the game seems to run differently from system to system. So, testing it on multiple systems at once might actually help them uncover bugs.

[lillian luna]

To tell the truth, Hearthfire looks better than Dawnguard anyway....

[Rob Davidson]

Coby, You do realize that some people can only afford one video game system, right? Not everyone can just pick and choose what system they buy their games for. Dawnguard was NEVER an exclusive DLC to Xbox. Nobody would ever make something that big and major exclusive. Xbox only had it for 30 days, then it was supposed to come to every one else. That's what they said. Once again, though, that's not the issue. If you are going to ignore the issue and just try and make us all sound like entitled brats, then please just leave this thread.

Until they ran into issues, I never said you shouldn't get it... I said people need to stop acting like there entitled to it. I agree you should get the DLC, but "demanding" anything that you haven't paid for is ridiculous. People are literally demanding it. Beth doesn't have to give you or anyone Dawnguard, just like there were a number of DLC's PS3 didn't get with Oblivion.

I believe you may be arguing at cross-purposes with the other posters here. Their point seems to be: " We didn't get what we paid for ". Whereas yours seems to be, " if you were as savvy as me, you would have purchased multiple platforms ".

No, really it comes down to: We all payed for Skyrim, we got Skyrim. Now DLC is out, and we think our purchase of Skyrim means we should be able to purchase the DLC too. Regardless that Beth isn't required to bring it to anyone, or that there are huge issues currently with doing that on the PS3.

When people get mad, logic goes out the window...

[Your Mum]

But to Coby, PS3 players are entitled to Dawnguard, we bought Skyrim, and we were told that DG would come to PS3, the reason we haven't bought it and therefore entitling us to it is because it isn't out for PS3 yet we aren't as fortunate as you xbox gamers.

[lauren cleaves]

How many times have you seen DLC of Dawnguard's size released on one system and not another? My guess is never.

Well, most of the Fallout 3 DLC were released on PC and Xbox almost an entire year before they came out for the PS3. In fact, as far as any of us knew, they were never even coming to the PS3. There was a big announcement after Mothership Zeta that they would be doing exactly that. As far as most of us PS3 players were concerned, we were never going to see that DLC. I actually knew that ahead of time because they had announced all of the DLC ahead of time, but I was fine with it because I wasn't aware of just how awesome Fallout was going to be. Was pretty bummed out that I was never going to be able to play it until Bethesda announced they were going to release it for us too. Too bad the DLC made my experience even worse than it already was.

I am actually of the opposite opinion of Coby that it is entirely ridiculous that you guys cannot have the same content we get. Unfortunately, I think you guys wouldn't actually want it anyway if Bethesda cannot handle it. We have received little support for the issues in Dawnguard and from my own experience with their PS3 DLC releases, it would only be worse for you guys. What really irks me about all of this though is that this isn't anything new, Bethesda has had these exact same problems with their last two releases as well. I honestly do not see why they would release the game for that platform knowing they have these kinds of problems. It certainly is not news.

[Sabrina Schwarz]

dawnguard update...fart

[Dean Brown]

Wow!, Never though I hear them say that they do not have the ability or the knowledge to make it work on PS3. You guys at Bethesda are obviously working too hard on something that is going to come out half assed. We get it. You will never be Naughty Dog. You did your best and I thank you, but clearly this is too much for you guys. Just give up. Keep on working on DLCs and giving support to the XBOX so at least they get a better quality and bu free product

[Melly Angelic]

Until they ran into issues, I never said you shouldn't get it... I said people need to stop acting like there entitled to it. I agree you should get the DLC, but "demanding" anything that you haven't paid for is ridiculous. People are literally demanding it. Beth doesn't have to give you or anyone Dawnguard, just like there were a number of DLC's PS3 didn't get with Oblivion.

We paid for a version of Skyrim that was promised support. They promised us the DLC. People aren't demanding something they didn't pay for. They are demanding to be treated the same as everybody else. It's NOT just about getting the DLC. How do you still not get this? But, sure, we hear you, you think that we don't deserve the DLC because we didn't pay for it. Everybody else disagrees and thinks you are trolling. This is a thread about Dawnguard on PS3. If you are just going to call us entitled, then once is fine.

Are Bethesda even reading this thread? Or is that too much for them to do too?

[Marnesia Steele]

But to Coby, PS3 players are entitled to Dawnguard, we bought Skyrim, and we were told that DG would come to PS3, the reason we haven't bought it and therefore entitling us to it is because it isn't out for PS3 yet we aren't as fortunate as you xbox gamers.

Honestly, I think he's just being antagonistic on purpose. Obviously, no one is going to "sue" Bethesda. That's asinine.

Also, Oblivion had to be ported by another studio (4J Studios) because gamesas couldn't figure it out. All of the large, story-based DLCs were also released. The only ones that weren't were mostly cosmetic (Frostcrag Spire, Horse Armor, etc.)

[Margarita Diaz]

Well, most of the Fallout 3 DLC were released on PC and Xbox almost an entire year before they came out for the PS3. In fact, as far as any of us knew, they were never even coming to the PS3. There was a big announcement after Mothership Zeta that they would be doing exactly that. As far as most of us PS3 players were concerned, we were never going to see that DLC. I actually knew that ahead of time because they had announced all of the DLC ahead of time, but I was fine with it because I wasn't aware of just how awesome Fallout was going to be. Was pretty bummed out that I was never going to be able to play it until Bethesda announced they were going to release it for us too. Too bad the DLC made my experience even worse than it already was.

I am actually of the opposite opinion of Coby that it is entirely ridiculous that you guys cannot have the same content we get. Unfortunately, I think you guys wouldn't actually want it anyway if Bethesda cannot handle it. We have received little support for the issues in Dawnguard and from my own experience with their PS3 DLC releases, it would only be worse for you guys.

But that DLC still came to PS3, even though everyone thought it wouldn't. With Dawnguard, we were promised the DLC but we have next to no idea on it's progress aside from a couple very cryptic updates.

[gemma king]

I don't mind waiting. Better that than having Dawnguard released on the PS3 prematurely, which could cause a lot more problems.

[Markie Mark]

Honestly, I think he's just being antagonistic on purpose. Obviously, no one is going to "sue" Bethesda. That's asinine.

Also, Oblivion had to be ported by another studio (4J Studios) because gamesas couldn't figure it out. All of the large, story-based DLCs were also released. The only ones that weren't were mostly cosmetic (Frostcrag Spire, Horse Armor, etc.)

I...actually did not know this. I always wondered why there was a such a massive difference in the way that Oblivion ran so smoothly on my PS3, yet Fallout 3 did not. Now I know.

[Nick Jase Mason]

Until they ran into issues, I never said you shouldn't get it... I said people need to stop acting like there entitled to it. I agree you should get the DLC, but "demanding" anything that you haven't paid for is ridiculous. People are literally demanding it. Beth doesn't have to give you or anyone Dawnguard, just like there were a number of DLC's PS3 didn't get with Oblivion.



No, really it comes down to: We all payed for Skyrim, we got Skyrim. Now DLC is out, and we think our purchase of Skyrim means we should be able to purchase the DLC too. Regardless that Beth isn't entitled to bringing it to anyone, or that there are huge issues currently with doing that on the PS3.

When people get mad, logic goes out the window...

Yes... and... Beth... never... claimed... otherwise... at... the... time. They offered up Oblivion as a port, with no suggestion of anything to follow, 'Shivering Isles' was a pleasant surprise. This time they did - please do check any number or publicity interviews and etc. with Pete Hines or Todd Howard pre-11.11.11.

It's not like people are demanding to have 'Bloodmoon' on their PS3's, simply what... was... advertised.

[Veronica Flores]

Yes... and... Beth... never... claimed... otherwise... at... the... time. They offered up Oblivion as a port, with no suggestion of anything to follow, 'Shivering Isles' was a pleasant surprise. This time they did - please do check any numher or publicity interviews and etc. with Pete Hines or Todd Howard pre-11.11.11.

It's not like people are demanding to have 'Bloodmoon' on their PS3's, simply what... was... advertised.

I can't remember them ever saying without a doubt that it would come to PS3... I remember them saying that there was a 30 day exclusive to Xbox, I do not however remember them stating that PS3 would then get it. I think people let the media tell them the PS3 would get it then, because it's logical to assume that after the 30 day exclusive was up PS3 would then get it. But I could be wrong.

I merely ask why people thought they were entitled to it, not to start some console war, considering I love both consoles, was just curious...

[Meghan Terry]

Go Flame somewhere else.

Think where done with your posts