[Austin Suggs]

You know I feel for you PS3 gamers, I really do... but why does everyone think there entitled to DLC for there platform of choice? Beth doesn't have to release DLC for PS3 or any platform really. You paid for Skyrim which you got, not DLC... if you had paid for DLC then you would be entitled to it.

I understand your frustrated, but this demanding for DLC is kind of ridiculous.



Why would they stop making DLC for other platforms that they are currently having no issue with? The world doesn't stop turning because they ran into issues with the PS3... They have different teams, doing different projects.

Actually, the back of the box promises add-on content. False advertising.

If people knew beforehand that other systems would get DLC and we would not, we'd probably have spent our $60 on a game that developers WILL care about.

[RaeAnne]

Actually, the back of the box promises add-on content. False advertising.

Did you not get content added on via patches... yes you do, therefor you got content added on. Not false advertising.

[Melanie]

I say that Bethesda just does not want ps3 part of their gamers. morrowind and oblivion were released to xbox first, ps3 an after thought. I mean, you mean to tell me Bethesda, the game company who has been around since 1986, has hundreds of employs who have state of the art technology, have been working on games all their lives, have spent 5+ years in school learning how to develop games can't make a DLC for the Playstation yet some indy bimbo living in his moms basemant can. That's a joke.

[Jonathan Braz]

So in other words, they're guilty of false advertising. It says "Add-On Content" on the back of the case so at this point what they're doing is illegal if they don't resolve it. Not looking too good for Bethesda.

Oh no, you'll get your Sims DLC cause that's not overly big so shouldn't cause them the issues DG is.

[Joey Avelar]

Did you not get content added on via patches... yes you do, therefor you got content added on. Not false advertising.

No, patches are not add-on content. Especially when the patches are just fixing major issues that should have been fixed before they sold us the game. Add-on content is ADDITONAL CONTENT, not fixing old content. Brand new content. Like Dawnguard. Stop trying to play semantics by saying patches are add-on content. They promised us DLC. And even if they hadn't, it's not out of the question for players on one platform to expect the same treatment as players on another. If you buy a pasta dinner and they give you three cold noodles why the guy next to you gets a giant plate of new fresh pasta, you'd complain. If somebody clearly favors one consumer over another, that's BAD BUSINESS.

[Katie Louise Ingram]

No, patches are not add-on content. Especially when the patches are just fixing major issues that should have been fixed before they sold us the game. Add-on content is ADDITONAL CONTENT, not fixing old content. Brand new content. Like Dawnguard. Stop trying to play semantics by saying patches are add-on content. They promised us DLC. And even if they hadn't, it's not out of the question for players on one platform to expect the same treatment as players on another. If you buy a pasta dinner and they give you three cold noodles why the guy next to you gets a giant plate of new fresh pasta, you'd complain. If somebody clearly favors one consumer over another, that's BAD BUSINESS.

Mounted Combat, New Water Shaders, & New Kill Cams are all ADDITIONAL CONTENT. This content was not in the original release of the game. Call it whatever you want, you got add on content for Skyrim. There was NO false advertising.

[Bereket Fekadu]

Actually, in order to put "Add-on Content" on the back of your game box, it needs to be more than small patched in graphical upgrades and minor tweaks like mounted combat. It needs to be DLC that you put on the PS Store. Sony doesn't let you put "Add-On Content" on the back of the box for graphical patches and new zoom-in camera angels. Maybe you should actually look into it before you say we are unjustified in being upset at being blatantly lied to.

And once again, even if that wasn't the case, we still have a right to be upset. It doesn't matter if we were promised the add-on content or not. The fact that they are busy making more and more add-on content for other platforms and telling us they can't be bothered to get it to work right is unacceptable. You CAN'T do that. In ANY other industry this level of favortism and complete disregard for parts of their costumers (keep that in mind, please, we aren't just fans, we are PAYING COSTUMERS), would get everyone involved fired.

[Kara Payne]

Mounted Combat, New Water Shaders, & New Kill Cams are all ADDITIONAL CONTENT. This content was not in the original release of the game. Call it whatever you want, you got add on content for Skyrim. There was NO false advertising.

That's not "content." Those are bug fixes. Legally, there's a difference. I don't think it matters, though. No one could actually sue Bethesda over this. They'll eventually release the "Game of the Year" edition even if they have to pay another studio to port it. That will count as content legally, so they'd be in the clear.

[Neko Jenny]

Nothing new to see here from Bethesda folks. This kind of practice towards the PS3 community has been going on since the release of Oblivion.

[stephanie eastwood]

Mounted Combat, New Water Shaders, & New Kill Cams are all ADDITIONAL CONTENT. This content was not in the original release of the game. Call it whatever you want, you got add on content for Skyrim. There was NO false advertising.

so your saying the patches are the ps3's dlc & there for that means dlc like dawnguard are the dlc for the xbox & the patches are dlc for the ps3. oh ok thanks for sharing your opinion. but as the saying goes opinions are like butts some of them smell.

[Brittany Abner]

You know I feel for you PS3 gamers, I really do... but why does everyone think there entitled to DLC for there platform of choice? Beth doesn't have to release DLC for PS3 or any platform really. You paid for Skyrim which you got, not DLC... if you had paid for DLC then you would be entitled to it.

I understand your frustrated, but this demanding for DLC is kind of ridiculous.

And just who are you to say we are not entitled to Dawnguard just because we haven't been able to pay for it like you Xbox 360/PC users have?

[John Moore]

Oh thats funny. So youre telling us that the add on content they promised us came in patches? Nice.

You reek of a trolls stench.

They have [censored] on us too many times, friend. Even your fellow xbox players are seeing how shifty this is. Ok sure, lets count patches as add on content. It still promises dlc. We have a right to get this stuff too.

[RObert loVes MOmmy]

That isn't really true... a vast majority of the PS3 3rd party games are noticeably worse than there 360 counterpart... this has been proven multiple times. It is why it's better to have a 360 for third party games, especially if you want to play anything released more than a few years ago.

Naughty Dog on the other hand, may be awesome PS3 coders, but they make linear type games not open word RPG's were memory is more important.

The Last of Us, is completely open world, and partially linear, also I'm sure they could code an open world RPG for PS3.

[Avril Churchill]

PS3 USERS SHOULD HAVE SAME RIGHTS AS 360 WE ALL BOUGHT GAME SYSTEMS...WE ALL DESERVE GAMES! THEY RELEASED SKYRIM FOR BOTH...SO BOTH SHOULD GET ALL DLC

[Tanya]

Mounted Combat, New Water Shaders, & New Kill Cams are all ADDITIONAL CONTENT. This content was not in the original release of the game. Call it whatever you want, you got add on content for Skyrim. There was NO false advertising.

You're wrong, Add-On content means DLC content, official game patches do not count. Go play your Xbox and get off the PS3 thread.

[Julie Serebrekoff]

I've been reading your posts about this for the last couple of months. I'm sad to see that the disrespect and miscommunication have finally caught up with you. You're right, PS3 players deserve better. The game released on 11/11/11 just like everyone else's. Bethesda should have been communicating with you, yet they didn't.

I'm so sorry to see this happen, and I wouldn't blame you if you quit buying Bethesda's games altogether.

I think we will see it soon...just check my signature

[Tai Scott]

The Last of Us, is completely open world, and partially linear, also I'm sure they could code an open world RPG for PS3.

Well you can always see who can code worth a damn (Naughty Dog, Rockstar.......) and who can't.

I'll let you guess who can't.

[Laura Cartwright]

Well there it is! Bethesda admitting they still cant code for ps3. They should be embarassed. What a joke.

[sophie]

You know I feel for you PS3 gamers, I really do... but why does everyone think there entitled to DLC for there platform of choice? Beth doesn't have to release DLC for PS3 or any platform really. You paid for Skyrim which you got, not DLC... if you had paid for DLC then you would be entitled to it.

I understand your frustrated, but this demanding for DLC is kind of ridiculous.



Why would they stop making DLC for other platforms that they are currently having no issue with? The world doesn't stop turning because they ran into issues with the PS3... They have different teams, doing different projects.

I don't for a moment doubt the sincerity of your 'feeling'... but no, the prospect of future DLC was very much to the fore in Beth's pre-release publicity... I think the word you're looking for is 'obligation', on the part of the vendor, rather than 'entitlement' on the part of the purchaser.

Incidentally, anyone noticed how popular a term of abuse 'entitlement' is among trust-fund recipients and other pishers. Yeah, people who haven't got what you've got, damm their sense of 'entitlement'.

[Amy Masters]

I find it very depressing that there are some people who actually don't understand why there is an issue here. It's not about the fact that they are having issues with putting Dawnguard on PS3. It's that they clearly don't care about the PS3 gamers, never had, and show signs that they never will. Once again, if this was any other industry, the level of disrespect, favortism, and lack of communication here would lead to lost jobs, lost sales, lost contracts, and a huge heaping pile of bad PR. This IS happening to Bethesda, but not on the level that it should. But do know that it's not just PS3 gamers who are done with Bethesda over this. My best friend is a PC gamers and he refuses to buy Dawnguard on priciple.

If they couldn't code on PS3, if they didn't care about PS3 gamers, if their game was this broken, then it shouldn't have been released on PS3 in the first place. But it was, they took our money, gave us an inferior product, spent months not communicating with us, finally patched it way later than it should have been, still have us critical updates (1.6) way later than others, and now aren't giving us the DLC that was promised to come out for everyone once their Xbox Cash-In Deal was over, and they still aren't communicating with us, just telling us "eh, we're working on a lot of things, I dunno if we'll fix it, you'll find out later". This is UNACCEPTABLE. Anybody with standards will never buy another Bethesda product again. Even if Dawnguard comes out for PS3, that's not the issue. STILL DON'T BUY IT. Not until they start treating us with the same level of respect as they do others. We're PAYING COSTUMERS. Treat us like it.

[emma sweeney]

Apparently my thread was closed, so...

What do you guys think about a PS3 Dawnguard beta? It helped with the Xbox release. Might it help with the PS3?

[ImmaTakeYour]

Not to sound dumb...but what is a Beta?

[Beth Belcher]

I don't for a moment doubt the sincerity of your 'feeling'... but no, the prospect of future DLC was very much to the fore in Beth's pre-release publicity... I think the word you're looking for is 'obligation', on the part of the vendor, rather than 'entitlement' on the part of the purchaser.

Incidentally, anyone noticed how popular a term of abuse 'entitlement' is among trust-fund recipients and other pishers. Yeah, people who haven't got what you've got, damm their sense of 'entitlement'.

I owned Fallout 3, Fallout NV on the PS3, when Skyrim came I knew that the 360 was the better choice... so yes I feel for you PS3 gamers. There are times when PS3 got something that 360 didn't, you know what I did? Bought it on PS3 because I was not entitled to it because I had not paid for it on 360, not complain about how it's not fair and that the 360 should get it too.

[D LOpez]

Apparently my thread was closed, so...

What do you guys think about a PS3 Dawnguard beta? It helped with the Xbox release. Might it help with the PS3?

Nope, actually takes a lot of effort to port a beta, by the time they have that set up, they will either have DG fixed or tossed in the bin.

[Susan]

Apparently my thread was closed, so...

What do you guys think about a PS3 Dawnguard beta? It helped with the Xbox release. Might it help with the PS3?

If beth decides to do a beta for the Ps3 version don't expect them to fix the issues you report to them. They didn't fix [censored] on the xbox version.